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From: Felipe Balbi <balbi@ti.com>
To: Kevin Hilman <khilman@deeprootsystems.com>
Cc: balbi@ti.com, Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Shubhrajyoti Datta <omaplinuxkernel@gmail.com>,
	Paul Walmsley <paul@pwsan.com>,
	linux-i2c@vger.kernel.org, Shubhrajyoti D <shubhrajyoti@ti.com>,
	Wolfram Sang <w.sang@pengutronix.de>,
	Ben Dooks <ben-linux@fluff.org>,
	linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: RT throttling and suspend/resume (was Re: [PATCH] i2c: omap: revert "i2c: omap: switch to threaded IRQ support")
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 08:51:36 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121018055136.GF11137@arwen.pp.htv.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87txtsitpt.fsf@deeprootsystems.com>

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On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 04:06:54PM -0700, Kevin Hilman wrote:
> Felipe Balbi <balbi@ti.com> writes:
> 
> > On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 05:00:02PM +0300, Felipe Balbi wrote:
> >> 
> >> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 02:39:50PM -0700, Kevin Hilman wrote:
> >> > + peterz, tglx
> >> > 
> >> > Felipe Balbi <balbi@ti.com> writes:
> >> > 
> >> > [...]
> >> > 
> >> > > The problem I see is that even though we properly return IRQ_WAKE_THREAD
> >> > > and wake_up_process() manages to wakeup the IRQ thread (it returns 1),
> >> > > the thread is never scheduled. To make things even worse, ouw irq thread
> >> > > runs once, but doesn't run on a consecutive call. Here's some (rather
> >> > > nasty) debug prints showing the problem:
> >> > 
> >> > [...]
> >> > 
> >> > >> [   88.721923] try_to_wake_up 1411
> >> > >> [   88.725189] ===> irq_wake_thread 139: IRQ 72 wake_up_process 0
> >> > >> [   88.731292] [sched_delayed] sched: RT throttling activated
> >> > 
> >> > This throttling message is the key one.
> >> > 
> >> > With RT throttling activated, the IRQ thread will not be run (it
> >> > eventually will be allowed much later on, but by then, the I2C xfers
> >> > have timed out.)
> >> > 
> >> > As a quick hack, the throttling can be disabled by seeting the
> >> > sched_rt_runtime to RUNTIME_INF:
> >> > 
> >> >         # sysctl -w kernel.sched_rt_runtime_us=-1
> >> > 
> >> > and a quick test shows that things go back to working as expected.  But
> >> > we still need to figure out why the throttling is hapenning...
> >> > 
> >> > So I started digging into why the RT runtime was so high, and noticed
> >> > that time spent in suspend was being counted as RT runtime!
> >> > 
> >> > So spending time in suspend anywhere near sched_rt_runtime (0.95s) will
> >> > cause the RT throttling to always be triggered, and thus prevent IRQ
> >> > threads from running in the resume path.  Ouch.
> >> > 
> >> > I think I'm already in over my head in the RT runtime stuff, but
> >> > counting the time spent in suspend as RT runtime smells like a bug to
> >> > me. no?
> >> > 
> >> > Peter? Thomas?
> >> 
> >> it looks like removing console output completely (echo 0 >
> >> /proc/sysrq-trigger) I don't see the issue anymore. Let me just run for
> >> a few more iterations to make sure what I'm saying is correct.
> >
> > Yeah, really looks like removing console output makes the problem go
> > away. Ran a few iterations and it always worked fine. Full logs attached
> 
> Removing console output during resume is going to significantly change
> the timing of what is happening during suspend/resume, so I suspect that
> combined with all your other debug prints is somehow masking the
> problem.  How log are you letting the system stay in suspend?

about 2 minutes

> That being said, I can still easily reproduce the problem, even with
> console output disabled.
> 
> With vanilla v3.7-rc1 + the debug patch below[1], with and without
> console output, I see RT throttling kicking in on resume, and the RT
> runtime on resume corresponds to the time spent in suspend.  Here's an
> example of debug output of my patch below after ~3 sec in suspend:
> 
> [   43.198028] sched_rt_runtime_exceeded: rt_time 2671752930 > runtime 950000000
> [   43.198028] update_curr_rt: RT runtime exceeded: irq/72-omap_i2c
> [   43.198059] update_curr_rt: RT runtime exceeded: irq/72-omap_i2c
> [   43.203704] [sched_delayed] sched: RT throttling activated
> 
> I see this rather consistently, and the rt_time value is always roughly the
> time I spent in suspend.
> 
> So the primary question remains: is RT runtime supposed to include the
> time spent suspended?  I suspect not. 

you might be right there, though we need Thomas or Peter to answer :-s

-- 
balbi

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From: balbi@ti.com (Felipe Balbi)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: RT throttling and suspend/resume (was Re: [PATCH] i2c: omap: revert "i2c: omap: switch to threaded IRQ support")
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2012 08:51:36 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20121018055136.GF11137@arwen.pp.htv.fi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87txtsitpt.fsf@deeprootsystems.com>

On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 04:06:54PM -0700, Kevin Hilman wrote:
> Felipe Balbi <balbi@ti.com> writes:
> 
> > On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 05:00:02PM +0300, Felipe Balbi wrote:
> >> 
> >> On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 02:39:50PM -0700, Kevin Hilman wrote:
> >> > + peterz, tglx
> >> > 
> >> > Felipe Balbi <balbi@ti.com> writes:
> >> > 
> >> > [...]
> >> > 
> >> > > The problem I see is that even though we properly return IRQ_WAKE_THREAD
> >> > > and wake_up_process() manages to wakeup the IRQ thread (it returns 1),
> >> > > the thread is never scheduled. To make things even worse, ouw irq thread
> >> > > runs once, but doesn't run on a consecutive call. Here's some (rather
> >> > > nasty) debug prints showing the problem:
> >> > 
> >> > [...]
> >> > 
> >> > >> [   88.721923] try_to_wake_up 1411
> >> > >> [   88.725189] ===> irq_wake_thread 139: IRQ 72 wake_up_process 0
> >> > >> [   88.731292] [sched_delayed] sched: RT throttling activated
> >> > 
> >> > This throttling message is the key one.
> >> > 
> >> > With RT throttling activated, the IRQ thread will not be run (it
> >> > eventually will be allowed much later on, but by then, the I2C xfers
> >> > have timed out.)
> >> > 
> >> > As a quick hack, the throttling can be disabled by seeting the
> >> > sched_rt_runtime to RUNTIME_INF:
> >> > 
> >> >         # sysctl -w kernel.sched_rt_runtime_us=-1
> >> > 
> >> > and a quick test shows that things go back to working as expected.  But
> >> > we still need to figure out why the throttling is hapenning...
> >> > 
> >> > So I started digging into why the RT runtime was so high, and noticed
> >> > that time spent in suspend was being counted as RT runtime!
> >> > 
> >> > So spending time in suspend anywhere near sched_rt_runtime (0.95s) will
> >> > cause the RT throttling to always be triggered, and thus prevent IRQ
> >> > threads from running in the resume path.  Ouch.
> >> > 
> >> > I think I'm already in over my head in the RT runtime stuff, but
> >> > counting the time spent in suspend as RT runtime smells like a bug to
> >> > me. no?
> >> > 
> >> > Peter? Thomas?
> >> 
> >> it looks like removing console output completely (echo 0 >
> >> /proc/sysrq-trigger) I don't see the issue anymore. Let me just run for
> >> a few more iterations to make sure what I'm saying is correct.
> >
> > Yeah, really looks like removing console output makes the problem go
> > away. Ran a few iterations and it always worked fine. Full logs attached
> 
> Removing console output during resume is going to significantly change
> the timing of what is happening during suspend/resume, so I suspect that
> combined with all your other debug prints is somehow masking the
> problem.  How log are you letting the system stay in suspend?

about 2 minutes

> That being said, I can still easily reproduce the problem, even with
> console output disabled.
> 
> With vanilla v3.7-rc1 + the debug patch below[1], with and without
> console output, I see RT throttling kicking in on resume, and the RT
> runtime on resume corresponds to the time spent in suspend.  Here's an
> example of debug output of my patch below after ~3 sec in suspend:
> 
> [   43.198028] sched_rt_runtime_exceeded: rt_time 2671752930 > runtime 950000000
> [   43.198028] update_curr_rt: RT runtime exceeded: irq/72-omap_i2c
> [   43.198059] update_curr_rt: RT runtime exceeded: irq/72-omap_i2c
> [   43.203704] [sched_delayed] sched: RT throttling activated
> 
> I see this rather consistently, and the rt_time value is always roughly the
> time I spent in suspend.
> 
> So the primary question remains: is RT runtime supposed to include the
> time spent suspended?  I suspect not. 

you might be right there, though we need Thomas or Peter to answer :-s

-- 
balbi
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Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-10-15  1:51 [PATCH] i2c: omap: revert "i2c: omap: switch to threaded IRQ support" Paul Walmsley
2012-10-15  1:51 ` Paul Walmsley
2012-10-15  7:16 ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-15  7:16   ` Felipe Balbi
     [not found]   ` <20121015071657.GA22818-S8G//mZuvNWo5Im9Ml3/Zg@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-15 15:05     ` Paul Walmsley
2012-10-15 15:05       ` Paul Walmsley
2012-10-16 12:58 ` Shubhrajyoti Datta
2012-10-16 12:58   ` Shubhrajyoti Datta
2012-10-16 13:33   ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-16 13:33     ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-16 13:37     ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-16 13:37       ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-16 21:39     ` RT throttling and suspend/resume (was Re: [PATCH] i2c: omap: revert "i2c: omap: switch to threaded IRQ support") Kevin Hilman
2012-10-16 21:39       ` Kevin Hilman
     [not found]       ` <87ipaanljt.fsf_-_-1D3HCaltpLuhEniVeURVKkEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-17 14:00         ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-17 14:00           ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-17 14:35           ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-17 14:41             ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-17 23:06             ` Kevin Hilman
2012-10-17 23:06               ` Kevin Hilman
2012-10-18  5:51               ` Felipe Balbi [this message]
2012-10-18  5:51                 ` Felipe Balbi
     [not found]                 ` <20121018055136.GF11137-S8G//mZuvNWo5Im9Ml3/Zg@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-19 14:00                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-19 14:00                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-19 16:30                     ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-19 16:30                       ` Felipe Balbi
2012-10-19 23:28                     ` Kevin Hilman
2012-10-19 23:28                       ` Kevin Hilman
2012-10-19 23:54                     ` Kevin Hilman
2012-10-19 23:54                       ` Kevin Hilman
2012-10-22  9:52                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-22  9:52                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2012-10-22 16:47                         ` Kevin Hilman
2012-10-22 16:47                           ` Kevin Hilman
     [not found]                           ` <87ehkqihdh.fsf-1D3HCaltpLuhEniVeURVKkEOCMrvLtNR@public.gmane.org>
2012-10-23  9:19                             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2012-10-23  9:19                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux

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