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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>,
	Sonny Rao <sonnyrao@google.com>, Bryan Freed <bfreed@google.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] mm: forcely swapout when we are out of page cache
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 16:26:02 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130109162602.53a60e77.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1357712474-27595-3-git-send-email-minchan@kernel.org>

On Wed,  9 Jan 2013 15:21:14 +0900
Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> wrote:

> If laptop_mode is enable, VM try to avoid I/O for saving the power.
> But if there isn't reclaimable memory without I/O, we should do I/O
> for preventing unnecessary OOM kill although we sacrifices power.
> 
> One of example is that we are out of page cache. Remained one is
> only anonymous pages, for swapping out, we needs may_writepage = 1.
> 
> Reported-by: Luigi Semenzato <semenzato@google.com>
> Signed-off-by: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
> ---
>  mm/vmscan.c |    6 ++++++
>  1 file changed, 6 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
> index 439cc47..624c816 100644
> --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> @@ -1728,6 +1728,12 @@ static void get_scan_count(struct lruvec *lruvec, struct scan_control *sc,
>  		free = zone_page_state(zone, NR_FREE_PAGES);
>  		if (unlikely(file + free <= high_wmark_pages(zone))) {
>  			scan_balance = SCAN_ANON;
> +			/*
> +			 * From now on, we have to swap out
> +			 * for peventing OOM kill although
> +			 * we sacrifice power consumption.
> +			 */
> +			sc->may_writepage = 1;
>  			goto out;
>  		}
>  	}

This is pretty ugly.  get_scan_count() is, as its name implies, an
idempotent function which inspects the state of things and returns a
result.  As such, it has no business going in and altering the state of
the scan_control.

We have code in both direct reclaim and in kswapd to set may_writepage
if vmscan is getting into trouble.  I don't see why adding another
instance is necessary if the existing instances are working correctly.



(Is it correct that __zone_reclaim() ignores laptop_mode?)


I have a feeling that laptop mode has bitrotted and these patches are
kinda hacking around as-yet-not-understood failures...

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From: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
To: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Dan Magenheimer <dan.magenheimer@oracle.com>,
	Sonny Rao <sonnyrao@google.com>, Bryan Freed <bfreed@google.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@google.com>, Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] mm: forcely swapout when we are out of page cache
Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2013 16:26:02 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130109162602.53a60e77.akpm@linux-foundation.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1357712474-27595-3-git-send-email-minchan@kernel.org>

On Wed,  9 Jan 2013 15:21:14 +0900
Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org> wrote:

> If laptop_mode is enable, VM try to avoid I/O for saving the power.
> But if there isn't reclaimable memory without I/O, we should do I/O
> for preventing unnecessary OOM kill although we sacrifices power.
> 
> One of example is that we are out of page cache. Remained one is
> only anonymous pages, for swapping out, we needs may_writepage = 1.
> 
> Reported-by: Luigi Semenzato <semenzato@google.com>
> Signed-off-by: Minchan Kim <minchan@kernel.org>
> ---
>  mm/vmscan.c |    6 ++++++
>  1 file changed, 6 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
> index 439cc47..624c816 100644
> --- a/mm/vmscan.c
> +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
> @@ -1728,6 +1728,12 @@ static void get_scan_count(struct lruvec *lruvec, struct scan_control *sc,
>  		free = zone_page_state(zone, NR_FREE_PAGES);
>  		if (unlikely(file + free <= high_wmark_pages(zone))) {
>  			scan_balance = SCAN_ANON;
> +			/*
> +			 * From now on, we have to swap out
> +			 * for peventing OOM kill although
> +			 * we sacrifice power consumption.
> +			 */
> +			sc->may_writepage = 1;
>  			goto out;
>  		}
>  	}

This is pretty ugly.  get_scan_count() is, as its name implies, an
idempotent function which inspects the state of things and returns a
result.  As such, it has no business going in and altering the state of
the scan_control.

We have code in both direct reclaim and in kswapd to set may_writepage
if vmscan is getting into trouble.  I don't see why adding another
instance is necessary if the existing instances are working correctly.



(Is it correct that __zone_reclaim() ignores laptop_mode?)


I have a feeling that laptop mode has bitrotted and these patches are
kinda hacking around as-yet-not-understood failures...

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-01-10  0:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-01-09  6:21 [PATCH 0/2] Use up free swap space before reaching OOM kill Minchan Kim
2013-01-09  6:21 ` [PATCH 1/2] mm: prevent to add a page to swap if may_writepage is unset Minchan Kim
2013-01-09  6:21   ` Minchan Kim
2013-01-09  6:56   ` Johannes Weiner
2013-01-09  6:56     ` Johannes Weiner
2013-01-09  7:10     ` Minchan Kim
2013-01-09  7:10       ` Minchan Kim
2013-01-10  0:18   ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-10  0:18     ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-10  2:03     ` Minchan Kim
2013-01-10  2:03       ` Minchan Kim
2013-01-10 23:24       ` Luigi Semenzato
2013-01-10 23:27         ` Luigi Semenzato
2013-01-10 23:27           ` Luigi Semenzato
2013-01-11  4:03         ` Minchan Kim
2013-01-11  4:03           ` Minchan Kim
2013-01-10  0:20   ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-10  0:20     ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-16 21:41   ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-16 21:41     ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-17  0:53     ` Minchan Kim
2013-01-17  0:53       ` Minchan Kim
2013-01-17 22:22       ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-17 22:22         ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-17 23:36         ` Minchan Kim
2013-01-17 23:36           ` Minchan Kim
2013-01-21  1:52           ` Minchan Kim
2013-01-21  1:52             ` Minchan Kim
2013-01-21 14:39             ` Rik van Riel
2013-01-21 14:39               ` Rik van Riel
2013-01-22  0:09               ` Minchan Kim
2013-01-22  0:09                 ` Minchan Kim
2013-02-05  1:43                 ` Minchan Kim
2013-02-05  1:43                   ` Minchan Kim
2013-01-09  6:21 ` [PATCH 2/2] mm: forcely swapout when we are out of page cache Minchan Kim
2013-01-09  6:21   ` Minchan Kim
2013-01-10  0:26   ` Andrew Morton [this message]
2013-01-10  0:26     ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-10  2:23     ` Minchan Kim
2013-01-10  2:23       ` Minchan Kim
2013-01-10 21:58       ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-10 21:58         ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-11  4:43         ` Minchan Kim
2013-01-11  4:43           ` Minchan Kim
2013-01-16  0:09           ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-16  0:09             ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-16  0:32             ` Sonny Rao
2013-01-16  0:32               ` Sonny Rao
2013-01-16  0:50               ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-16  0:50                 ` Andrew Morton
2013-01-16  1:21                 ` Sonny Rao
2013-01-16  1:21                   ` Sonny Rao
2013-01-16  4:47                   ` Minchan Kim
2013-01-16  4:47                     ` Minchan Kim
2013-01-16 20:08                     ` Sonny Rao
2013-01-16 20:08                       ` Sonny Rao
2013-01-16  4:43             ` Minchan Kim
2013-01-16  4:43               ` Minchan Kim

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