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From: Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org>
To: Wei Ni <wni@nvidia.com>
Cc: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>,
	Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	rui.zhang@intel.com, lm-sensors@lm-sensors.org,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/4] hwmon: (lm90) split set&show temp as common codes
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 11:11:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130717111144.491e9958@endymion.delvare> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51E6392E.5080906@nvidia.com>

On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 14:26:54 +0800, Wei Ni wrote:
> On 07/17/2013 01:14 PM, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 06:26:20AM +0200, Thierry Reding wrote:
> >> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 09:24:15AM +0200, Jean Delvare wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 15 Jul 2013 14:25:29 +0800, Wei Ni wrote:
> >>>> I think we can decide it in the DT, we can add a dt property in the lm90
> >>>> device node, such as:
> >>>> sys-interface = SYS_HWMON;
> >>>> or
> >>>> sys-interface = SYS_THERMAL;
> >>>> So we register it as the hwmon or thermal device
> >>>
> >>> This is an option, but please keep in mind that DT is not the only way
> >>> to instantiate LM90-like devices, and we should not expose duplicate
> >>> inputs by default. It is fine with me if the default is to create only a
> >>> HWMON device (as the lm90 driver was doing so far), and only
> >>> DT-instantiated devices have the choice.
> >>
> >> I don't think this information belongs in the device tree. Whether the
> >> device is exposed as hwmon or thermal device (or both) is entirely a
> >> software issue whereas DT is a means to describe the hardware.
> >>
> > Correct; this is exactly the type of information which does _not_ belong int
> > devicetree.
> > 
> >> It seems to me that the earlier proposal of communicating to the bridge
> >> whether or not a device should be exposed as hwmon device is the right
> >> thing to do here.
> >
> > Agreed..
> 
> Sorry, what's the "bridge" mean,

The code which creates a virtual hwmon input when a new thermal zone is
registered (this code is in thermal_core.c.)

> does it mean we need to add a flag in
> the thermal_zone_device_register() to indicate if we want to register
> virtual hwmon device or not?

I think so, yes.

Alternatively the flag could be added to struct
thermal_zone_device_ops, so that you don't have to update all the
callers. But I admit it's a hack as the flag doesn't really belong
there, so I suppose we don't really want to do that.

I have been thinking of an automatic approach, based on comparing the
type string passed to thermal_zone_device_register() with already
registered hwmon devices, but I couldn't come up with something good
and robust enough, so let's forget about it.

-- 
Jean Delvare

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From: Jean Delvare <khali@linux-fr.org>
To: Wei Ni <wni@nvidia.com>
Cc: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>,
	Thierry Reding <thierry.reding@gmail.com>,
	rui.zhang@intel.com, lm-sensors@lm-sensors.org,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-tegra@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [lm-sensors] [PATCH v3 1/4] hwmon: (lm90) split set&show temp as common codes
Date: Wed, 17 Jul 2013 09:11:44 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130717111144.491e9958@endymion.delvare> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51E6392E.5080906@nvidia.com>

On Wed, 17 Jul 2013 14:26:54 +0800, Wei Ni wrote:
> On 07/17/2013 01:14 PM, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 06:26:20AM +0200, Thierry Reding wrote:
> >> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 09:24:15AM +0200, Jean Delvare wrote:
> >>> On Mon, 15 Jul 2013 14:25:29 +0800, Wei Ni wrote:
> >>>> I think we can decide it in the DT, we can add a dt property in the lm90
> >>>> device node, such as:
> >>>> sys-interface = SYS_HWMON;
> >>>> or
> >>>> sys-interface = SYS_THERMAL;
> >>>> So we register it as the hwmon or thermal device
> >>>
> >>> This is an option, but please keep in mind that DT is not the only way
> >>> to instantiate LM90-like devices, and we should not expose duplicate
> >>> inputs by default. It is fine with me if the default is to create only a
> >>> HWMON device (as the lm90 driver was doing so far), and only
> >>> DT-instantiated devices have the choice.
> >>
> >> I don't think this information belongs in the device tree. Whether the
> >> device is exposed as hwmon or thermal device (or both) is entirely a
> >> software issue whereas DT is a means to describe the hardware.
> >>
> > Correct; this is exactly the type of information which does _not_ belong int
> > devicetree.
> > 
> >> It seems to me that the earlier proposal of communicating to the bridge
> >> whether or not a device should be exposed as hwmon device is the right
> >> thing to do here.
> >
> > Agreed..
> 
> Sorry, what's the "bridge" mean,

The code which creates a virtual hwmon input when a new thermal zone is
registered (this code is in thermal_core.c.)

> does it mean we need to add a flag in
> the thermal_zone_device_register() to indicate if we want to register
> virtual hwmon device or not?

I think so, yes.

Alternatively the flag could be added to struct
thermal_zone_device_ops, so that you don't have to update all the
callers. But I admit it's a hack as the flag doesn't really belong
there, so I suppose we don't really want to do that.

I have been thinking of an automatic approach, based on comparing the
type string passed to thermal_zone_device_register() with already
registered hwmon devices, but I couldn't come up with something good
and robust enough, so let's forget about it.

-- 
Jean Delvare

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  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-17  9:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 126+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-12  7:48 [PATCH v3 0/4] Lm90 Enhancements Wei Ni
2013-07-12  7:48 ` [lm-sensors] " Wei Ni
2013-07-12  7:48 ` Wei Ni
2013-07-12  7:48 ` [PATCH v3 1/4] hwmon: (lm90) split set&show temp as common codes Wei Ni
2013-07-12  7:48   ` [lm-sensors] " Wei Ni
2013-07-12  7:48   ` Wei Ni
     [not found]   ` <1373615287-18502-2-git-send-email-wni-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-12 13:26     ` Jean Delvare
2013-07-12 13:26       ` [lm-sensors] " Jean Delvare
2013-07-12 13:26       ` Jean Delvare
     [not found]       ` <20130712152615.23464a6b-R0o5gVi9kd7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-12 13:50         ` Guenter Roeck
2013-07-12 13:50           ` [lm-sensors] " Guenter Roeck
2013-07-12 13:50           ` Guenter Roeck
     [not found]           ` <20130712135000.GA3386-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-12 14:30             ` Jean Delvare
2013-07-12 14:30               ` [lm-sensors] " Jean Delvare
2013-07-12 14:30               ` Jean Delvare
2013-07-12 14:40               ` Guenter Roeck
2013-07-12 14:40                 ` [lm-sensors] " Guenter Roeck
2013-07-15  6:25                 ` Wei Ni
2013-07-15  6:25                   ` [lm-sensors] " Wei Ni
2013-07-15  6:25                   ` Wei Ni
2013-07-15  7:24                   ` Jean Delvare
2013-07-15  7:24                     ` [lm-sensors] " Jean Delvare
2013-07-15  7:24                     ` Jean Delvare
     [not found]                     ` <20130715092415.6d082aa2-R0o5gVi9kd7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-15  9:14                       ` Wei Ni
2013-07-15  9:14                         ` [lm-sensors] " Wei Ni
2013-07-15  9:14                         ` Wei Ni
     [not found]                         ` <51E3BD5F.6060806-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-15 17:52                           ` Jean Delvare
2013-07-15 17:52                             ` [lm-sensors] " Jean Delvare
2013-07-15 17:52                             ` Jean Delvare
2013-07-17  4:26                     ` Thierry Reding
2013-07-17  4:26                       ` [lm-sensors] " Thierry Reding
2013-07-17  5:14                       ` Guenter Roeck
2013-07-17  5:14                         ` [lm-sensors] " Guenter Roeck
2013-07-17  6:26                         ` Wei Ni
2013-07-17  6:26                           ` [lm-sensors] " Wei Ni
2013-07-17  9:11                           ` Jean Delvare [this message]
2013-07-17  9:11                             ` Jean Delvare
2013-07-17  9:54                             ` Wei Ni
2013-07-17  9:54                               ` [lm-sensors] " Wei Ni
2013-07-15  6:05         ` Wei Ni
2013-07-15  6:05           ` [lm-sensors] " Wei Ni
2013-07-15  6:05           ` Wei Ni
     [not found]           ` <51E39114.505-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-15  7:29             ` Jean Delvare
2013-07-15  7:29               ` [lm-sensors] " Jean Delvare
2013-07-15  7:29               ` Jean Delvare
     [not found] ` <1373615287-18502-1-git-send-email-wni-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-12  7:48   ` [PATCH v3 2/4] hwmon: (lm90) use macro defines for the status bit Wei Ni
2013-07-12  7:48     ` [lm-sensors] " Wei Ni
2013-07-12  7:48     ` Wei Ni
2013-07-15 16:57     ` Jean Delvare
2013-07-15 16:57       ` [lm-sensors] " Jean Delvare
2013-07-15 16:57       ` Jean Delvare
     [not found]       ` <20130715185727.4ebde8c4-R0o5gVi9kd7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-15 17:33         ` Guenter Roeck
2013-07-15 17:33           ` [lm-sensors] " Guenter Roeck
2013-07-15 17:33           ` Guenter Roeck
     [not found]           ` <20130715173322.GA20484-0h96xk9xTtrk1uMJSBkQmQ@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-30 15:33             ` Jean Delvare
2013-10-30 15:33               ` [lm-sensors] " Jean Delvare
2013-10-30 15:33               ` Jean Delvare
     [not found]               ` <20131030163326.4e7e0cfc-R0o5gVi9kd7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2013-10-30 16:11                 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-10-30 16:11                   ` [lm-sensors] " Guenter Roeck
2013-10-30 16:11                   ` Guenter Roeck
2013-10-30 16:56                 ` Guenter Roeck
2013-10-30 16:56                   ` [lm-sensors] " Guenter Roeck
2013-10-30 16:56                   ` Guenter Roeck
2013-07-17  7:03         ` Wei Ni
2013-07-17  7:03           ` [lm-sensors] " Wei Ni
2013-07-17  7:03           ` Wei Ni
2013-07-17  7:09           ` Wei Ni
2013-07-17  7:09             ` [lm-sensors] " Wei Ni
     [not found]           ` <51E641C7.4000107-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-17  8:28             ` Jean Delvare
2013-07-17  8:28               ` [lm-sensors] " Jean Delvare
2013-07-17  8:28               ` Jean Delvare
2013-07-17  9:29               ` Wei Ni
2013-07-17  9:29                 ` [lm-sensors] " Wei Ni
     [not found]                 ` <51E663FC.5050209-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-17  9:46                   ` Jean Delvare
2013-07-17  9:46                     ` [lm-sensors] " Jean Delvare
2013-07-17  9:46                     ` Jean Delvare
2013-07-12  7:48 ` [PATCH v3 3/4] hwmon: (lm90) add support to handle IRQ Wei Ni
2013-07-12  7:48   ` [lm-sensors] " Wei Ni
2013-07-12  7:48   ` Wei Ni
2013-07-18 15:58   ` Jean Delvare
2013-07-18 15:58     ` [lm-sensors] " Jean Delvare
2013-07-18 15:58     ` Jean Delvare
     [not found]     ` <20130718175822.62c358bf-R0o5gVi9kd7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-19  6:41       ` Wei Ni
2013-07-19  6:41         ` [lm-sensors] " Wei Ni
2013-07-19  6:41         ` Wei Ni
     [not found]         ` <51E8DFB2.9070701-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-24  7:46           ` Wei Ni
2013-07-24  7:46             ` [lm-sensors] " Wei Ni
2013-07-24  7:46             ` Wei Ni
2013-07-24  8:08             ` Jean Delvare
2013-07-24  8:08               ` [lm-sensors] " Jean Delvare
2013-07-27 15:02         ` Jean Delvare
2013-07-27 15:02           ` [lm-sensors] " Jean Delvare
2013-07-29 10:14           ` Wei Ni
2013-07-29 10:14             ` [lm-sensors] " Wei Ni
     [not found]             ` <51F640A0.4040809-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-29 15:58               ` Jean Delvare
2013-07-29 15:58                 ` [lm-sensors] " Jean Delvare
2013-07-29 15:58                 ` Jean Delvare
     [not found]                 ` <20130729175835.795dba2b-R0o5gVi9kd7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-30  8:18                   ` Wei Ni
2013-07-30  8:18                     ` [lm-sensors] " Wei Ni
2013-07-30  8:18                     ` Wei Ni
     [not found]                     ` <51F776DB.3060104-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-09-16 12:34                       ` Jean Delvare
2013-09-16 12:34                         ` [lm-sensors] " Jean Delvare
2013-09-16 12:34                         ` Jean Delvare
2013-07-12  7:48 ` [PATCH v3 4/4] hwmon: (lm90) use enums for the indexes of temp8 and temp11 Wei Ni
2013-07-12  7:48   ` [lm-sensors] " Wei Ni
2013-07-12  7:48   ` Wei Ni
     [not found]   ` <1373615287-18502-5-git-send-email-wni-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-27 15:38     ` Jean Delvare
2013-07-27 15:38       ` [lm-sensors] " Jean Delvare
2013-07-27 15:38       ` Jean Delvare
     [not found]       ` <20130727173830.14cb5b21-R0o5gVi9kd7kN2dkZ6Wm7A@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-29 11:15         ` Wei Ni
2013-07-29 11:15           ` [lm-sensors] " Wei Ni
2013-07-29 11:15           ` Wei Ni
     [not found]           ` <51F64EC0.800-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2013-07-29 15:48             ` Jean Delvare
2013-07-29 15:48               ` [lm-sensors] " Jean Delvare
2013-07-29 15:48               ` Jean Delvare
2014-08-25  6:29 [PATCH v3 0/4] expose lm90 to thermal fw Wei Ni
     [not found] ` <1408948188-4181-1-git-send-email-wni-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-25  6:29   ` [PATCH v3 1/4] hwmon: (lm90) split set&show temp as common codes Wei Ni
2014-08-25  6:29     ` Wei Ni
     [not found]     ` <1408948188-4181-2-git-send-email-wni-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-25 12:23       ` Mikko Perttunen
2014-08-25 12:23         ` Mikko Perttunen
     [not found]         ` <53FB2AAA.30601-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-26  2:27           ` Wei Ni
2014-08-26  2:27             ` Wei Ni
     [not found]             ` <53FBF09F.8050502-DDmLM1+adcrQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-26 12:17               ` Eduardo Valentin
2014-08-26 12:17                 ` Eduardo Valentin
2014-08-26 16:37                 ` Stephen Warren
     [not found]                   ` <53FCB7C6.8000503-3lzwWm7+Weoh9ZMKESR00Q@public.gmane.org>
2014-08-27  2:25                     ` Wei Ni
2014-08-27  2:25                       ` Wei Ni

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