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From: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
To: Wenchao Xia <xiawenc@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: pbonzini@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	dietmar@proxmox.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] export internal snapshot by qemu-nbd
Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2013 11:19:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130719091941.GE2992@dhcp-200-207.str.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <51E900D3.30705@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

Am 19.07.2013 um 11:03 hat Wenchao Xia geschrieben:
> 于 2013-7-18 13:43, Stefan Hajnoczi 写道:
> >On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 10:03:51PM +0800, Wenchao Xia wrote:
> >>This series allow user to read internal snapshot's contents without qemu-img
> >>convert. Another purpose is that, when qemu is online and have taken an
> >>internal snapshot, let user invoke qemu-nbd to do any thing on it except write.
> >
> >I agree with Eric and Kevin that we cannot access image files while QEMU
> >has them open.
> >
> >A bit more detail about using the run-time NBD server to do this safely:
> >
> >Internal snapshots are not first-class block layer objects today.  They
> >are not BlockDriverStates, instead you must access their data through
> >bdrv_snapshot_goto() or bdrv_snapshot_load_tmp().
> >
>   Also cc to Fam Zheng an Kevin:
>   I think BlockDriverStates modification, is based on a more basic
> question: does qcow2's data structure on disk, allow multiple snapshot
> reader, while one active writer, without lock? I think the modification
> showed above, already said "yes" to this question.

What exactly do you mean by "without lock"?

But yes, there's no fundamental problem in the format specification that
would make it impossible to write a driver that accesses multiple
snapshots at the same time from the same qemu process. (Even r/w in
theory, though we're treating snapshots as immutable traditionally.)

Kevin

  reply	other threads:[~2013-07-19  9:19 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-07-17 14:03 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] export internal snapshot by qemu-nbd Wenchao Xia
2013-07-17 14:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/4] snapshot: distinguish id and name in load_tmp Wenchao Xia
2013-07-17 14:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/4] qemu-nbd: support internal snapshot export Wenchao Xia
2013-07-17 14:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/4] qemu-nbd: add doc for " Wenchao Xia
2013-07-26  8:11   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-29  1:57     ` Wenchao Xia
2013-07-29  7:39       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-17 14:03 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/4] qemu-iotests: add 057 internal snapshot export with qemu-nbd case Wenchao Xia
2013-07-17 14:23 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/4] export internal snapshot by qemu-nbd Eric Blake
2013-07-17 15:21   ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-18  2:28     ` Wenchao Xia
2013-07-18  7:15       ` Fam Zheng
2013-07-19  6:29   ` Wenchao Xia
2013-07-19  8:20     ` Kevin Wolf
2013-07-22  5:20   ` Wenchao Xia
2013-07-18  5:43 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-19  9:03   ` Wenchao Xia
2013-07-19  9:19     ` Kevin Wolf [this message]
2013-07-19 10:02       ` Wenchao Xia
2013-07-22  2:10     ` Fam Zheng
2013-07-22  3:26       ` Wenchao Xia
2013-07-25  2:30 ` Wenchao Xia
2013-07-25  8:06   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-26  2:23     ` Wenchao Xia
2013-07-26  8:20       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2013-07-29  2:05         ` Wenchao Xia

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