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From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Grazvydas Ignotas <notasas@gmail.com>,
	Felipe Contreras <felipe.contreras@gmail.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>, Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/1] (Was: Linux 3.11-rc4)
Date: Thu, 8 Aug 2013 18:54:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20130808165427.GC32049@somewhere> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20130808154107.GA28971@redhat.com>

On Thu, Aug 08, 2013 at 05:41:07PM +0200, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> On 08/07, Linus Torvalds wrote:
> >
> > Now, I do agree that the debug registers are *much* less likely to
> > have those kinds of really subtle issues, so maybe relaxing some of
> > the tests might be reasonable. I'd be a bit nervous about it, but if
> > it's *only* the length/alignment, and Intel people can be convinced
> > that it doesn't result in any nasty undefined behavior (as long as the
> > address is in user space), maybe we could make that change just to
> > make it easier for Wine.
> 
> Oh, I do not know. And again, this way a user can't notice the problem
> if the arguments are wrong.
> 
> But personally I think it would be nice to cleanup the perf interface,
> although probably it is too later.
> 
> On x86 execute breakpoints are only a single byte, which has to be
> the first byte of the instruction. IOW the hardware requires len = 1
> in dr7 or it doesn't work (iirc).
> 
> But for some reason perf requires bp_len = sizeof(long), not 1. And
> note that it sets info->len = X86_BREAKPOINT_LEN_X. The comment says:
> 
> 	x86 inst breakpoints need to have a specific undefined len
> 
> but despite its "special" name LEN_X is simply LEN_1, and other code
> relies on this fact.
> 
> Now, ptrace correctly requires DR_LEN_1. So arch_bp_generic_fields()
> translates this into "gen_len = sizeof(long)" for validation.
> 
> arch_build_bp_info() thinks that X86_BREAKPOINT_EXECUTE should have
> ->bp_len == sizeof(long), so we translate it back into LEN_1 internally.

I did this interface and I'm sorry about it.

This bp_len == sizeof(long) requirement comes from a very buggy conception
I had at the time I wrote that. I thought it would be pretty intuitive to
assume that instruction breakpoints should be the size of the instruction
itself as a generic interface for all archs. But at least x86 instructions
size aren't static. That sizeof(long) assumption just popped up from nowhere
at 5 am two years ago I guess :-(

And worse: I realized that mistake later but never moved it in the top of the
TODO-list pile because I had the feeling that nobody was using the perf breakpoint
interface anyway.

I'm all for fixing this. May be we can start by backporting a patch that
ignores the value of gen_len for instruction breakpoints in x86?

I don't know how other archs use it. I need to check. But this bp_len
should rather be used for range breakpoints on archs that support it. I
hope we can still reuse it if the damage of my initial misconception
isn't too widely expanded.

What do you think?

> 
> This looks confusing, imho. And imho X86_BREAKPOINT_LEN_X should die.

Yep.

Thanks.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-08-08 16:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-08-04 21:09 Linux 3.11-rc4 Linus Torvalds
2013-08-05  2:34 ` O_TMPFILE fs corruption (Re: Linux 3.11-rc4) Andy Lutomirski
2013-08-05  3:45   ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-05  4:45     ` Andrew Lutomirski
2013-08-05  8:26     ` Christoph Hellwig
2013-08-05 16:04       ` Jörn Engel
2013-08-05 14:31     ` Al Viro
2013-08-05  4:20 ` Linux 3.11-rc4 Felipe Contreras
2013-08-05 13:29   ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-05 14:27     ` Felipe Contreras
2013-08-05 14:39       ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-05 17:02         ` Felipe Contreras
2013-08-05 17:11           ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-05 17:40             ` Felipe Contreras
2013-08-05 17:56               ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-05 17:39     ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-05 17:43       ` Felipe Contreras
2013-08-05 18:08         ` Felipe Contreras
2013-08-05 17:47       ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-05 18:46   ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-05 18:54     ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-05 18:57       ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-05 19:06         ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-06 15:43   ` [PATCH 0/1] (Was: Linux 3.11-rc4) Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-06 15:43     ` [PATCH 1/1] Revert "ptrace: PTRACE_DETACH should do flush_ptrace_hw_breakpoint(child)" Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-07 12:05     ` [PATCH 0/1] (Was: Linux 3.11-rc4) Grazvydas Ignotas
2013-08-07 17:22       ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-07 19:26       ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-07 19:27         ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-07 19:47           ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-08 15:41             ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-08 16:25               ` Linus Torvalds
2013-08-08 16:54               ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2013-08-08 18:15                 ` Oleg Nesterov
2013-08-09 16:45                   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2013-08-09 17:12                     ` Oleg Nesterov

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