Looking for project ideas and mentors for Google Summer of Code 2014

Looking for project ideas and mentors for Google Summer of Code 2014

[Stefan Hajnoczi]

KVM & libvirt: you are welcome to join the QEMU umbrella organization
like last year.

What is GSoC?
Google Summer of Code 2014 (GSoC) provides funding for students to
work on open source projects for 12-weeks over the summer.  Open
source organizations apply to participate and those accepted receive
funding for one or more students.

How we are participating
QEMU has participated, together with KVM and libvirt, in past years
and I would like to continue that tradition this year.

We now need to collect a list of project ideas on our wiki.  We also
need mentors to volunteer.

http://qemu-project.org/Google_Summer_of_Code_2014

Project ideas
Please post project ideas on the wiki page below.  Project ideas
should be suitable as a 12-week project that a student fluent in
C/Python/etc can complete.  No prior knowledge of QEMU/KVM/libvirt
internals can be assumed.

http://qemu-project.org/Google_Summer_of_Code_2014

Mentors
Please add your name to project ideas you are willing to mentor.  In
order to mentor you must be an established contributor (regularly
contribute patches).  You must be willing to spend about 5 hours per
week from May 19 to August 18.

I have CCed the 8 most active committers since QEMU 1.5.0 but everyone
is invited.

Official timeline:
https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2014

Stefan

[Qemu-devel] Looking for project ideas and mentors for Google Summer of Code 2014

[Stefan Hajnoczi]

KVM & libvirt: you are welcome to join the QEMU umbrella organization
like last year.

What is GSoC?
Google Summer of Code 2014 (GSoC) provides funding for students to
work on open source projects for 12-weeks over the summer.  Open
source organizations apply to participate and those accepted receive
funding for one or more students.

How we are participating
QEMU has participated, together with KVM and libvirt, in past years
and I would like to continue that tradition this year.

We now need to collect a list of project ideas on our wiki.  We also
need mentors to volunteer.

http://qemu-project.org/Google_Summer_of_Code_2014

Project ideas
Please post project ideas on the wiki page below.  Project ideas
should be suitable as a 12-week project that a student fluent in
C/Python/etc can complete.  No prior knowledge of QEMU/KVM/libvirt
internals can be assumed.

http://qemu-project.org/Google_Summer_of_Code_2014

Mentors
Please add your name to project ideas you are willing to mentor.  In
order to mentor you must be an established contributor (regularly
contribute patches).  You must be willing to spend about 5 hours per
week from May 19 to August 18.

I have CCed the 8 most active committers since QEMU 1.5.0 but everyone
is invited.

Official timeline:
https://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/events/google/gsoc2014

Stefan

Re: [libvirt] Looking for project ideas and mentors for Google Summer of Code 2014

[Michal Privoznik]

On 03.02.2014 08:45, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> KVM & libvirt: you are welcome to join the QEMU umbrella organization
> like last year.
>

I've updated wiki with a libvirt idea. But I can sense more to come 
later as I have some time to think about it :)


Michal

Re: [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] Looking for project ideas and mentors for Google Summer of Code 2014

[Michal Privoznik]

On 03.02.2014 08:45, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> KVM & libvirt: you are welcome to join the QEMU umbrella organization
> like last year.
>

I've updated wiki with a libvirt idea. But I can sense more to come 
later as I have some time to think about it :)


Michal

Re: [libvirt] Looking for project ideas and mentors for Google Summer of Code 2014

[Stefan Hajnoczi]

On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Michal Privoznik <mprivozn@redhat.com> wrote:
> On 03.02.2014 08:45, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>>
>> KVM & libvirt: you are welcome to join the QEMU umbrella organization
>> like last year.
>>
>
> I've updated wiki with a libvirt idea. But I can sense more to come later as
> I have some time to think about it :)

Great, thanks!

I have added my QEMU block layer ideas too.

Deadline for the organization application is 14th of February.  As
part of the application form we need to show our list of ideas.
Thanks for posting your project ideas so that our list is ready.

Stefan

Re: [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] Looking for project ideas and mentors for Google Summer of Code 2014

[Stefan Hajnoczi]

On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Michal Privoznik <mprivozn@redhat.com> wrote:
> On 03.02.2014 08:45, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>>
>> KVM & libvirt: you are welcome to join the QEMU umbrella organization
>> like last year.
>>
>
> I've updated wiki with a libvirt idea. But I can sense more to come later as
> I have some time to think about it :)

Great, thanks!

I have added my QEMU block layer ideas too.

Deadline for the organization application is 14th of February.  As
part of the application form we need to show our list of ideas.
Thanks for posting your project ideas so that our list is ready.

Stefan

Re: [libvirt] Looking for project ideas and mentors for Google Summer of Code 2014

[Giorgio Zoppi]

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Hi all,
i offer part of my free time as mentor.
Cheers,
Giorgio


2014-02-06 13:27 GMT+01:00 Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>:

> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Michal Privoznik <mprivozn@redhat.com>
> wrote:
> > On 03.02.2014 08:45, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> >>
> >> KVM & libvirt: you are welcome to join the QEMU umbrella organization
> >> like last year.
> >>
> >
> > I've updated wiki with a libvirt idea. But I can sense more to come
> later as
> > I have some time to think about it :)
>
> Great, thanks!
>
> I have added my QEMU block layer ideas too.
>
> Deadline for the organization application is 14th of February.  As
> part of the application form we need to show our list of ideas.
> Thanks for posting your project ideas so that our list is ready.
>
> Stefan
>
> --
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> libvir-list@redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/libvir-list
>



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Re: [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] Looking for project ideas and mentors for Google Summer of Code 2014

[Giorgio Zoppi]

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Hi all,
i offer part of my free time as mentor.
Cheers,
Giorgio


2014-02-06 13:27 GMT+01:00 Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>:

> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Michal Privoznik <mprivozn@redhat.com>
> wrote:
> > On 03.02.2014 08:45, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> >>
> >> KVM & libvirt: you are welcome to join the QEMU umbrella organization
> >> like last year.
> >>
> >
> > I've updated wiki with a libvirt idea. But I can sense more to come
> later as
> > I have some time to think about it :)
>
> Great, thanks!
>
> I have added my QEMU block layer ideas too.
>
> Deadline for the organization application is 14th of February.  As
> part of the application form we need to show our list of ideas.
> Thanks for posting your project ideas so that our list is ready.
>
> Stefan
>
> --
> libvir-list mailing list
> libvir-list@redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/libvir-list
>



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para hacerte respirar y vivir en me.
"Favola -Moda".

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Re: [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] Looking for project ideas and mentors for Google Summer of Code 2014

[Fam Zheng]

On Thu, 02/06 13:27, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Michal Privoznik <mprivozn@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On 03.02.2014 08:45, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> >>
> >> KVM & libvirt: you are welcome to join the QEMU umbrella organization
> >> like last year.
> >>
> >
> > I've updated wiki with a libvirt idea. But I can sense more to come later as
> > I have some time to think about it :)
> 
> Great, thanks!
> 
> I have added my QEMU block layer ideas too.
> 
> Deadline for the organization application is 14th of February.  As
> part of the application form we need to show our list of ideas.
> Thanks for posting your project ideas so that our list is ready.
> 

I'd like to add persistent dirty bitmap as an idea but I seem to have no
account on wiki, so I'll just reply here, please help with review and update
the page if it makes sense. (Who could create an account for me, BTW?)

Project Idea Below
==================

Incremental backup of block images
----------------------------------

Summary: Implement persistent incremental image backup.

Users want to do regular backup of VM image data to protect data from
unexpected loss.  Incremental backup is a backup strategy that only copies out
the "new data" that is changed since previous backup, to reduce the overhead of
backup and improve the storage utilization. To track which part of guest data
is changed, QEMU needs to store image's "dirty bitmap" on the disk as well as
the image data itself.

The task is to implement a new block driver (a filter) to load/store this
persistent dirty bitmap file, and maintain the dirty bits while the guest
writes to the data image. As a prerequisite, you also need to make the design
of this bitmap file format. Then, design test cases and write scripts to test
the driver.

The persistent bitmap file must contain:

0. Magic bits to identify the format of this file.
1. Bitmap granularity (e.g. 64 KB)
2. The actual bitmap (1 TB disk @ 64 KB granularity = 2 MB bitmap)
3. Flags including a "clean" flag. The "clean" flag is used to tell whether the
   persistent bitmap file is safe to use again.  When QEMU opens the persistent
   dirty bitmap, it clears the "clean" flag.  When QEMU deactivates and
   finishes writing out the dirty bitmap, it sets the "clean" flag.  If the
   QEMU process crashes it is not safe to trust the dirty bitmap; a full backup
   must be performed. Make use of this flag in the driver to limit the
   performance overhead.

Links:
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incremental_backup Incremental backup]
[http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2014-01/msg02156.html QMP:
Introduce incremental drive-backup with in-memory dirty bitmap]

Details:
Skill level: intermediate
Language: C
Mentors:  Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com> (fam on IRC),
          Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com> (stefanha on IRC)

Thanks,
Fam

Re: [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] Looking for project ideas and mentors for Google Summer of Code 2014

[Fam Zheng]

On Thu, 02/06 13:27, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Michal Privoznik <mprivozn@redhat.com> wrote:
> > On 03.02.2014 08:45, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> >>
> >> KVM & libvirt: you are welcome to join the QEMU umbrella organization
> >> like last year.
> >>
> >
> > I've updated wiki with a libvirt idea. But I can sense more to come later as
> > I have some time to think about it :)
> 
> Great, thanks!
> 
> I have added my QEMU block layer ideas too.
> 
> Deadline for the organization application is 14th of February.  As
> part of the application form we need to show our list of ideas.
> Thanks for posting your project ideas so that our list is ready.
> 

I'd like to add persistent dirty bitmap as an idea but I seem to have no
account on wiki, so I'll just reply here, please help with review and update
the page if it makes sense. (Who could create an account for me, BTW?)

Project Idea Below
==================

Incremental backup of block images
----------------------------------

Summary: Implement persistent incremental image backup.

Users want to do regular backup of VM image data to protect data from
unexpected loss.  Incremental backup is a backup strategy that only copies out
the "new data" that is changed since previous backup, to reduce the overhead of
backup and improve the storage utilization. To track which part of guest data
is changed, QEMU needs to store image's "dirty bitmap" on the disk as well as
the image data itself.

The task is to implement a new block driver (a filter) to load/store this
persistent dirty bitmap file, and maintain the dirty bits while the guest
writes to the data image. As a prerequisite, you also need to make the design
of this bitmap file format. Then, design test cases and write scripts to test
the driver.

The persistent bitmap file must contain:

0. Magic bits to identify the format of this file.
1. Bitmap granularity (e.g. 64 KB)
2. The actual bitmap (1 TB disk @ 64 KB granularity = 2 MB bitmap)
3. Flags including a "clean" flag. The "clean" flag is used to tell whether the
   persistent bitmap file is safe to use again.  When QEMU opens the persistent
   dirty bitmap, it clears the "clean" flag.  When QEMU deactivates and
   finishes writing out the dirty bitmap, it sets the "clean" flag.  If the
   QEMU process crashes it is not safe to trust the dirty bitmap; a full backup
   must be performed. Make use of this flag in the driver to limit the
   performance overhead.

Links:
[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Incremental_backup Incremental backup]
[http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2014-01/msg02156.html QMP:
Introduce incremental drive-backup with in-memory dirty bitmap]

Details:
Skill level: intermediate
Language: C
Mentors:  Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com> (fam on IRC),
          Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com> (stefanha on IRC)

Thanks,
Fam

Re: [libvirt] Looking for project ideas and mentors for Google Summer of Code 2014

[Fam Zheng]

On Fri, 02/07 15:01, Fam Zheng wrote:
> I'd like to add persistent dirty bitmap as an idea but I seem to have no
> account on wiki, so I'll just reply here, please help with review and update
> the page if it makes sense. (Who could create an account for me, BTW?)

Now I've got two because Paolo and Kevin helped me at the same time :).

Thank you!

Fam

Re: [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] Looking for project ideas and mentors for Google Summer of Code 2014

[Fam Zheng]

On Fri, 02/07 15:01, Fam Zheng wrote:
> I'd like to add persistent dirty bitmap as an idea but I seem to have no
> account on wiki, so I'll just reply here, please help with review and update
> the page if it makes sense. (Who could create an account for me, BTW?)

Now I've got two because Paolo and Kevin helped me at the same time :).

Thank you!

Fam

Re: [libvirt] Looking for project ideas and mentors for Google Summer of Code 2014

[Giorgio Zoppi]

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Hi all,
I would like to add fault tolerance mechanism.


2014-02-07 11:10 GMT+01:00 Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>:

> On Fri, 02/07 15:01, Fam Zheng wrote:
> > I'd like to add persistent dirty bitmap as an idea but I seem to have no
> > account on wiki, so I'll just reply here, please help with review and
> update
> > the page if it makes sense. (Who could create an account for me, BTW?)
>
> Now I've got two because Paolo and Kevin helped me at the same time :).
>
> Thank you!
>
> Fam
>
> --
> libvir-list mailing list
> libvir-list@redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/libvir-list
>



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Re: [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] Looking for project ideas and mentors for Google Summer of Code 2014

[Giorgio Zoppi]

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Hi all,
I would like to add fault tolerance mechanism.


2014-02-07 11:10 GMT+01:00 Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>:

> On Fri, 02/07 15:01, Fam Zheng wrote:
> > I'd like to add persistent dirty bitmap as an idea but I seem to have no
> > account on wiki, so I'll just reply here, please help with review and
> update
> > the page if it makes sense. (Who could create an account for me, BTW?)
>
> Now I've got two because Paolo and Kevin helped me at the same time :).
>
> Thank you!
>
> Fam
>
> --
> libvir-list mailing list
> libvir-list@redhat.com
> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/libvir-list
>



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Re: [libvirt] Looking for project ideas and mentors for Google Summer of Code 2014

[Paolo Bonzini]

Il 07/02/2014 11:41, Giorgio Zoppi ha scritto:
> Hi all,
> I would like to add fault tolerance mechanism.
>

I'm assuming you would contribute as a student rather than a mentor, 
since I am not familiar with contributions from you to either libvirt or 
QEMU.

In that case, do not worry.  The page is only listing project ideas from 
the mentors, and it is certainly possible for student to propose their 
own projects.  This has already happened in the past.

Thanks,

Paolo

Re: [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] Looking for project ideas and mentors for Google Summer of Code 2014

[Paolo Bonzini]

Il 07/02/2014 11:41, Giorgio Zoppi ha scritto:
> Hi all,
> I would like to add fault tolerance mechanism.
>

I'm assuming you would contribute as a student rather than a mentor, 
since I am not familiar with contributions from you to either libvirt or 
QEMU.

In that case, do not worry.  The page is only listing project ideas from 
the mentors, and it is certainly possible for student to propose their 
own projects.  This has already happened in the past.

Thanks,

Paolo

Re: [libvirt] Looking for project ideas and mentors for Google Summer of Code 2014

[Stefan Hajnoczi]

On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 01:45:07PM +0100, Giorgio Zoppi wrote:
> i offer part of my free time as mentor.

>From my original email:
"In order to mentor you must be an established contributor (regularly
contribute patches)."

I couldn't find any commits from you in QEMU, libvirt, or Linux.  Did I
miss your contributions?

Stefan

Re: [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] Looking for project ideas and mentors for Google Summer of Code 2014

[Stefan Hajnoczi]

On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 01:45:07PM +0100, Giorgio Zoppi wrote:
> i offer part of my free time as mentor.

>From my original email:
"In order to mentor you must be an established contributor (regularly
contribute patches)."

I couldn't find any commits from you in QEMU, libvirt, or Linux.  Did I
miss your contributions?

Stefan

Re: Looking for project ideas and mentors for Google Summer of Code 2014

[Stefan Hajnoczi]

On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com> wrote:
> Project ideas
> Please post project ideas on the wiki page below.  Project ideas
> should be suitable as a 12-week project that a student fluent in
> C/Python/etc can complete.  No prior knowledge of QEMU/KVM/libvirt
> internals can be assumed.
>
> http://qemu-project.org/Google_Summer_of_Code_2014

Please post your project ideas before Friday.

I need to submit our organization application (including our project
ideas) on Friday.

Stefan

Re: [Qemu-devel] Looking for project ideas and mentors for Google Summer of Code 2014

[Stefan Hajnoczi]

On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com> wrote:
> Project ideas
> Please post project ideas on the wiki page below.  Project ideas
> should be suitable as a 12-week project that a student fluent in
> C/Python/etc can complete.  No prior knowledge of QEMU/KVM/libvirt
> internals can be assumed.
>
> http://qemu-project.org/Google_Summer_of_Code_2014

Please post your project ideas before Friday.

I need to submit our organization application (including our project
ideas) on Friday.

Stefan

Re: Looking for project ideas and mentors for Google Summer of Code 2014

[Jan Kiszka]

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On 2014-02-11 11:17, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Project ideas
>> Please post project ideas on the wiki page below.  Project ideas
>> should be suitable as a 12-week project that a student fluent in
>> C/Python/etc can complete.  No prior knowledge of QEMU/KVM/libvirt
>> internals can be assumed.
>>
>> http://qemu-project.org/Google_Summer_of_Code_2014
> 
> Please post your project ideas before Friday.
> 
> I need to submit our organization application (including our project
> ideas) on Friday.

Hope it's not too late: just added the VT-d emulation proposal.

Jan



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Re: [Qemu-devel] Looking for project ideas and mentors for Google Summer of Code 2014

[Jan Kiszka]

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On 2014-02-11 11:17, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Project ideas
>> Please post project ideas on the wiki page below.  Project ideas
>> should be suitable as a 12-week project that a student fluent in
>> C/Python/etc can complete.  No prior knowledge of QEMU/KVM/libvirt
>> internals can be assumed.
>>
>> http://qemu-project.org/Google_Summer_of_Code_2014
> 
> Please post your project ideas before Friday.
> 
> I need to submit our organization application (including our project
> ideas) on Friday.

Hope it's not too late: just added the VT-d emulation proposal.

Jan



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Re: Looking for project ideas and mentors for Google Summer of Code 2014

[Stefan Hajnoczi]

On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 09:16:19AM +0100, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> On 2014-02-11 11:17, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Project ideas
> >> Please post project ideas on the wiki page below.  Project ideas
> >> should be suitable as a 12-week project that a student fluent in
> >> C/Python/etc can complete.  No prior knowledge of QEMU/KVM/libvirt
> >> internals can be assumed.
> >>
> >> http://qemu-project.org/Google_Summer_of_Code_2014
> > 
> > Please post your project ideas before Friday.
> > 
> > I need to submit our organization application (including our project
> > ideas) on Friday.
> 
> Hope it's not too late: just added the VT-d emulation proposal.

Excellent!  I was going to ping you today because the project you
mentored last year was quite successful.  Thank you for posting your
idea for 2014.

Stefan

Re: [Qemu-devel] Looking for project ideas and mentors for Google Summer of Code 2014

[Stefan Hajnoczi]

On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 09:16:19AM +0100, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> On 2014-02-11 11:17, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Project ideas
> >> Please post project ideas on the wiki page below.  Project ideas
> >> should be suitable as a 12-week project that a student fluent in
> >> C/Python/etc can complete.  No prior knowledge of QEMU/KVM/libvirt
> >> internals can be assumed.
> >>
> >> http://qemu-project.org/Google_Summer_of_Code_2014
> > 
> > Please post your project ideas before Friday.
> > 
> > I need to submit our organization application (including our project
> > ideas) on Friday.
> 
> Hope it's not too late: just added the VT-d emulation proposal.

Excellent!  I was going to ping you today because the project you
mentored last year was quite successful.  Thank you for posting your
idea for 2014.

Stefan

Re: [libvirt] Looking for project ideas and mentors for Google Summer of Code 2014

[Cedric Bosdonnat]

On Fri, 2014-02-14 at 09:16 +0100, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> > I need to submit our organization application (including our project
> > ideas) on Friday.
> 
> Hope it's not too late: just added the VT-d emulation proposal.

It's not too late. Ideas page must be ready when students will discover
the list of accepted organizations on Monday 24th.

I'm not GSoc admin here, but on LibreOffice ;)
--
Cedric

Re: [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] Looking for project ideas and mentors for Google Summer of Code 2014

[Cedric Bosdonnat]

On Fri, 2014-02-14 at 09:16 +0100, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> > I need to submit our organization application (including our project
> > ideas) on Friday.
> 
> Hope it's not too late: just added the VT-d emulation proposal.

It's not too late. Ideas page must be ready when students will discover
the list of accepted organizations on Monday 24th.

I'm not GSoc admin here, but on LibreOffice ;)
--
Cedric

Re: [libvirt] Looking for project ideas and mentors for Google Summer of Code 2014

[Stefan Hajnoczi]

On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 03:22:04PM +0100, Cedric Bosdonnat wrote:
> On Fri, 2014-02-14 at 09:16 +0100, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> > > I need to submit our organization application (including our project
> > > ideas) on Friday.
> > 
> > Hope it's not too late: just added the VT-d emulation proposal.
> 
> It's not too late. Ideas page must be ready when students will discover
> the list of accepted organizations on Monday 24th.
> 
> I'm not GSoc admin here, but on LibreOffice ;)

The project ideas list is linked from the organization application form
and Google folks have mentioned messy/incomplete project ideas lists
when giving feedback to orgs that were not accepted.

This is why it's worth having the project ideas list ready.

But Cedric is right that we can still add project ideas later.  I set
the hard deadline at March 10th when students begin applying.

Stefan

Re: [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] Looking for project ideas and mentors for Google Summer of Code 2014

[Stefan Hajnoczi]

On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 03:22:04PM +0100, Cedric Bosdonnat wrote:
> On Fri, 2014-02-14 at 09:16 +0100, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> > > I need to submit our organization application (including our project
> > > ideas) on Friday.
> > 
> > Hope it's not too late: just added the VT-d emulation proposal.
> 
> It's not too late. Ideas page must be ready when students will discover
> the list of accepted organizations on Monday 24th.
> 
> I'm not GSoc admin here, but on LibreOffice ;)

The project ideas list is linked from the organization application form
and Google folks have mentioned messy/incomplete project ideas lists
when giving feedback to orgs that were not accepted.

This is why it's worth having the project ideas list ready.

But Cedric is right that we can still add project ideas later.  I set
the hard deadline at March 10th when students begin applying.

Stefan

Re: [libvirt] Looking for project ideas and mentors for Google Summer of Code 2014

[Christian Benvenuti (benve)]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: kvm-owner@vger.kernel.org [mailto:kvm-owner@vger.kernel.org]
> On Behalf Of Stefan Hajnoczi
> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 7:58 AM
> To: Cedric Bosdonnat
> Cc: Jan Kiszka; qemu-devel; kvm; libvir-list@redhat.com; Kevin Wolf; Peter
> Maydell; Peter Crosthwaite; Max Reitz; Anthony Liguori; Paolo Bonzini;
> Andreas Färber; Richard Henderson
> Subject: Re: [libvirt] Looking for project ideas and mentors for Google
> Summer of Code 2014
> 
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 03:22:04PM +0100, Cedric Bosdonnat wrote:
> > On Fri, 2014-02-14 at 09:16 +0100, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> > > > I need to submit our organization application (including our
> > > > project
> > > > ideas) on Friday.
> > >
> > > Hope it's not too late: just added the VT-d emulation proposal.
> >
> > It's not too late. Ideas page must be ready when students will
> > discover the list of accepted organizations on Monday 24th.
> >
> > I'm not GSoc admin here, but on LibreOffice ;)
> 
> The project ideas list is linked from the organization application form and
> Google folks have mentioned messy/incomplete project ideas lists when
> giving feedback to orgs that were not accepted.
> 
> This is why it's worth having the project ideas list ready.
> 
> But Cedric is right that we can still add project ideas later.  I set the hard
> deadline at March 10th when students begin applying.
> 
> Stefan

There are only a few days left before the hard deadline (March 10th) but
I wanted to mention one possible project which I think is worth considering:

	Integration of Libvirt and CRIU to allow live-migration
	(and snapshots?) for containers

In [1] you can find more details about the reasons why this feature
would make sense together with a first analysis by Daniel about
what to consider for the design.

I am not applying as a student and I am not offering myself as a mentor (I
do not qualify as a mentor), I Just wanted to point out a possible interesting
(and challenging) project.
I am afraid it would be too challenging for a 12 weeks projects, but I'll let you
decide that.
Having said that, I would be happy to help with the testing and reviews if
needed.

/Chris

[1] http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2013-November/msg00055.html

Re: [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] Looking for project ideas and mentors for Google Summer of Code 2014

[Christian Benvenuti (benve)]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: kvm-owner@vger.kernel.org [mailto:kvm-owner@vger.kernel.org]
> On Behalf Of Stefan Hajnoczi
> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 7:58 AM
> To: Cedric Bosdonnat
> Cc: Jan Kiszka; qemu-devel; kvm; libvir-list@redhat.com; Kevin Wolf; Peter
> Maydell; Peter Crosthwaite; Max Reitz; Anthony Liguori; Paolo Bonzini;
> Andreas Färber; Richard Henderson
> Subject: Re: [libvirt] Looking for project ideas and mentors for Google
> Summer of Code 2014
> 
> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 03:22:04PM +0100, Cedric Bosdonnat wrote:
> > On Fri, 2014-02-14 at 09:16 +0100, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> > > > I need to submit our organization application (including our
> > > > project
> > > > ideas) on Friday.
> > >
> > > Hope it's not too late: just added the VT-d emulation proposal.
> >
> > It's not too late. Ideas page must be ready when students will
> > discover the list of accepted organizations on Monday 24th.
> >
> > I'm not GSoc admin here, but on LibreOffice ;)
> 
> The project ideas list is linked from the organization application form and
> Google folks have mentioned messy/incomplete project ideas lists when
> giving feedback to orgs that were not accepted.
> 
> This is why it's worth having the project ideas list ready.
> 
> But Cedric is right that we can still add project ideas later.  I set the hard
> deadline at March 10th when students begin applying.
> 
> Stefan

There are only a few days left before the hard deadline (March 10th) but
I wanted to mention one possible project which I think is worth considering:

	Integration of Libvirt and CRIU to allow live-migration
	(and snapshots?) for containers

In [1] you can find more details about the reasons why this feature
would make sense together with a first analysis by Daniel about
what to consider for the design.

I am not applying as a student and I am not offering myself as a mentor (I
do not qualify as a mentor), I Just wanted to point out a possible interesting
(and challenging) project.
I am afraid it would be too challenging for a 12 weeks projects, but I'll let you
decide that.
Having said that, I would be happy to help with the testing and reviews if
needed.

/Chris

[1] http://www.redhat.com/archives/libvir-list/2013-November/msg00055.html

Re: [libvirt] Looking for project ideas and mentors for Google Summer of Code 2014

[Stefan Hajnoczi]

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:22 AM, Christian Benvenuti (benve)
<benve@cisco.com> wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: kvm-owner@vger.kernel.org [mailto:kvm-owner@vger.kernel.org]
>> On Behalf Of Stefan Hajnoczi
>> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 7:58 AM
>> To: Cedric Bosdonnat
>> Cc: Jan Kiszka; qemu-devel; kvm; libvir-list@redhat.com; Kevin Wolf; Peter
>> Maydell; Peter Crosthwaite; Max Reitz; Anthony Liguori; Paolo Bonzini;
>> Andreas Färber; Richard Henderson
>> Subject: Re: [libvirt] Looking for project ideas and mentors for Google
>> Summer of Code 2014
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 03:22:04PM +0100, Cedric Bosdonnat wrote:
>> > On Fri, 2014-02-14 at 09:16 +0100, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>> > > > I need to submit our organization application (including our
>> > > > project
>> > > > ideas) on Friday.
>> > >
>> > > Hope it's not too late: just added the VT-d emulation proposal.
>> >
>> > It's not too late. Ideas page must be ready when students will
>> > discover the list of accepted organizations on Monday 24th.
>> >
>> > I'm not GSoc admin here, but on LibreOffice ;)
>>
>> The project ideas list is linked from the organization application form and
>> Google folks have mentioned messy/incomplete project ideas lists when
>> giving feedback to orgs that were not accepted.
>>
>> This is why it's worth having the project ideas list ready.
>>
>> But Cedric is right that we can still add project ideas later.  I set the hard
>> deadline at March 10th when students begin applying.
>>
>> Stefan
>
> There are only a few days left before the hard deadline (March 10th) but
> I wanted to mention one possible project which I think is worth considering:
>
>         Integration of Libvirt and CRIU to allow live-migration
>         (and snapshots?) for containers
>
> In [1] you can find more details about the reasons why this feature
> would make sense together with a first analysis by Daniel about
> what to consider for the design.
>
> I am not applying as a student and I am not offering myself as a mentor (I
> do not qualify as a mentor), I Just wanted to point out a possible interesting
> (and challenging) project.
> I am afraid it would be too challenging for a 12 weeks projects, but I'll let you
> decide that.

Agreed, it seems like it could be too much for someone new to libvirt
and containers.  But definitely an exciting feature idea.

Stefan

Re: [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] Looking for project ideas and mentors for Google Summer of Code 2014

[Stefan Hajnoczi]

On Fri, Mar 7, 2014 at 1:22 AM, Christian Benvenuti (benve)
<benve@cisco.com> wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: kvm-owner@vger.kernel.org [mailto:kvm-owner@vger.kernel.org]
>> On Behalf Of Stefan Hajnoczi
>> Sent: Friday, February 14, 2014 7:58 AM
>> To: Cedric Bosdonnat
>> Cc: Jan Kiszka; qemu-devel; kvm; libvir-list@redhat.com; Kevin Wolf; Peter
>> Maydell; Peter Crosthwaite; Max Reitz; Anthony Liguori; Paolo Bonzini;
>> Andreas Färber; Richard Henderson
>> Subject: Re: [libvirt] Looking for project ideas and mentors for Google
>> Summer of Code 2014
>>
>> On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 03:22:04PM +0100, Cedric Bosdonnat wrote:
>> > On Fri, 2014-02-14 at 09:16 +0100, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>> > > > I need to submit our organization application (including our
>> > > > project
>> > > > ideas) on Friday.
>> > >
>> > > Hope it's not too late: just added the VT-d emulation proposal.
>> >
>> > It's not too late. Ideas page must be ready when students will
>> > discover the list of accepted organizations on Monday 24th.
>> >
>> > I'm not GSoc admin here, but on LibreOffice ;)
>>
>> The project ideas list is linked from the organization application form and
>> Google folks have mentioned messy/incomplete project ideas lists when
>> giving feedback to orgs that were not accepted.
>>
>> This is why it's worth having the project ideas list ready.
>>
>> But Cedric is right that we can still add project ideas later.  I set the hard
>> deadline at March 10th when students begin applying.
>>
>> Stefan
>
> There are only a few days left before the hard deadline (March 10th) but
> I wanted to mention one possible project which I think is worth considering:
>
>         Integration of Libvirt and CRIU to allow live-migration
>         (and snapshots?) for containers
>
> In [1] you can find more details about the reasons why this feature
> would make sense together with a first analysis by Daniel about
> what to consider for the design.
>
> I am not applying as a student and I am not offering myself as a mentor (I
> do not qualify as a mentor), I Just wanted to point out a possible interesting
> (and challenging) project.
> I am afraid it would be too challenging for a 12 weeks projects, but I'll let you
> decide that.

Agreed, it seems like it could be too much for someone new to libvirt
and containers.  But definitely an exciting feature idea.

Stefan

Re: [libvirt] Looking for project ideas and mentors for Google Summer of Code 2014

[Cedric Bosdonnat]

Hi Stefan, Christian,

On Fri, 2014-03-07 at 10:16 +0100, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > I am not applying as a student and I am not offering myself as a mentor (I
> > do not qualify as a mentor), I Just wanted to point out a possible interesting
> > (and challenging) project.
> > I am afraid it would be too challenging for a 12 weeks projects, but I'll let you
> > decide that.
> 
> Agreed, it seems like it could be too much for someone new to libvirt
> and containers.  But definitely an exciting feature idea.

I don't know how you're usually handling those sort of things, but in
LibreOffice project we have just created a GenialIdeas page for ideas
lacking mentors, or a slightly too big for GSoc... so that interested
people can pick it later. On a mailing list, that idea is likely to be
lost sooner or later ;)

--
Cedric

Re: [Qemu-devel] [libvirt] Looking for project ideas and mentors for Google Summer of Code 2014

[Cedric Bosdonnat]

Hi Stefan, Christian,

On Fri, 2014-03-07 at 10:16 +0100, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> > I am not applying as a student and I am not offering myself as a mentor (I
> > do not qualify as a mentor), I Just wanted to point out a possible interesting
> > (and challenging) project.
> > I am afraid it would be too challenging for a 12 weeks projects, but I'll let you
> > decide that.
> 
> Agreed, it seems like it could be too much for someone new to libvirt
> and containers.  But definitely an exciting feature idea.

I don't know how you're usually handling those sort of things, but in
LibreOffice project we have just created a GenialIdeas page for ideas
lacking mentors, or a slightly too big for GSoc... so that interested
people can pick it later. On a mailing list, that idea is likely to be
lost sooner or later ;)

--
Cedric