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From: Liviu Dudau <Liviu.Dudau@arm.com>
To: Bjorn Helgaas <bhelgaas@google.com>
Cc: Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	linux-pci <linux-pci@vger.kernel.org>,
	Catalin Marinas <Catalin.Marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <Will.Deacon@arm.com>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	linaro-kernel <linaro-kernel@lists.linaro.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	LAKML <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Tanmay Inamdar <tinamdar@apm.com>,
	Grant Likely <grant.likely@secretlab.ca>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v7 1/6] pci: Introduce pci_register_io_range() helper function.
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 10:50:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140408095038.GT17163@e106497-lin.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAErSpo4iEV6khP63ZTF+YUTKi9WLFXzMv13nxw15y3qDg15Ztg@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Apr 07, 2014 at 06:58:24PM +0100, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 5:36 AM, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> 
> > I think migrating other architectures to use the same code should be
> > a separate effort from adding a generic implementation that can be
> > used by arm64. It's probably a good idea to have patches to convert
> > arm32 and/or microblaze.
> 
> Let me reiterate that I am 100% in favor of replacing arch-specific
> code with more generic implementations.
> 
> However, I am not 100% in favor of doing it as separate efforts
> (although maybe I could be convinced).  The reasons I hesitate are
> that (1) if only one architecture uses a new "generic" implementation,
> we really don't know whether it is generic enough, (2) until I see the
> patches to convert other architectures, I have to assume that I'm the
> one who will write them, and (3) as soon as we add the code to
> drivers/pci, it becomes partly my headache to maintain it, even if
> only one arch benefits from it.
> 
> Please don't think I'm questioning anyone's intent or good will.  It's
> just that I understand the business pressures, and I know how hard it
> can be to justify this sort of work to one's management, especially
> after the immediate problem has been solved.

I understand your concern. I guess the only way to prove my good intentions
is to shut up and show the code.

Liviu

> 
> Bjorn
> 

-- 
====================
| I would like to |
| fix the world,  |
| but they're not |
| giving me the   |
 \ source code!  /
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From: Liviu.Dudau@arm.com (Liviu Dudau)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v7 1/6] pci: Introduce pci_register_io_range() helper function.
Date: Tue, 8 Apr 2014 10:50:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140408095038.GT17163@e106497-lin.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAErSpo4iEV6khP63ZTF+YUTKi9WLFXzMv13nxw15y3qDg15Ztg@mail.gmail.com>

On Mon, Apr 07, 2014 at 06:58:24PM +0100, Bjorn Helgaas wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 5:36 AM, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de> wrote:
> 
> > I think migrating other architectures to use the same code should be
> > a separate effort from adding a generic implementation that can be
> > used by arm64. It's probably a good idea to have patches to convert
> > arm32 and/or microblaze.
> 
> Let me reiterate that I am 100% in favor of replacing arch-specific
> code with more generic implementations.
> 
> However, I am not 100% in favor of doing it as separate efforts
> (although maybe I could be convinced).  The reasons I hesitate are
> that (1) if only one architecture uses a new "generic" implementation,
> we really don't know whether it is generic enough, (2) until I see the
> patches to convert other architectures, I have to assume that I'm the
> one who will write them, and (3) as soon as we add the code to
> drivers/pci, it becomes partly my headache to maintain it, even if
> only one arch benefits from it.
> 
> Please don't think I'm questioning anyone's intent or good will.  It's
> just that I understand the business pressures, and I know how hard it
> can be to justify this sort of work to one's management, especially
> after the immediate problem has been solved.

I understand your concern. I guess the only way to prove my good intentions
is to shut up and show the code.

Liviu

> 
> Bjorn
> 

-- 
====================
| I would like to |
| fix the world,  |
| but they're not |
| giving me the   |
 \ source code!  /
  ---------------
    ?\_(?)_/?

  reply	other threads:[~2014-04-08  9:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 178+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-03-14 15:34 [PATCH v7 0/6] Support for creating generic host_bridge from device tree Liviu Dudau
2014-03-14 15:34 ` Liviu Dudau
2014-03-14 15:34 ` [PATCH v7 1/6] pci: Introduce pci_register_io_range() helper function Liviu Dudau
2014-03-14 15:34   ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-05  0:19   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-04-05  0:19     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-04-05  0:19     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-04-06  9:49     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-04-06  9:49       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-04-06  9:49       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-04-07  8:35       ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-07  8:35         ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-07  8:35         ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-07  9:13         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-04-07  9:13           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-04-07  9:13           ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-04-07 11:16           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-07 11:16             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-07 11:16             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-07  8:31     ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-07  8:31       ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-07  8:31       ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-07 11:36       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-07 11:36         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-07 11:36         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-07 13:42         ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-07 13:42           ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-07 13:42           ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-07 17:58         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-04-07 17:58           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-04-07 17:58           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-04-08  9:50           ` Liviu Dudau [this message]
2014-04-08  9:50             ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-08 10:22             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-08 10:22               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-08 16:54               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-04-08 16:54                 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-06-26  8:59           ` Catalin Marinas
2014-06-26  8:59             ` Catalin Marinas
2014-06-26  9:30             ` Liviu Dudau
2014-06-26  9:30               ` Liviu Dudau
2014-06-26 14:11               ` Catalin Marinas
2014-06-26 14:11                 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-06-26 14:11                 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-06-26 14:14                 ` Will Deacon
2014-06-26 14:14                   ` Will Deacon
2014-06-27  0:44             ` Rob Herring
2014-06-27  0:44               ` Rob Herring
2014-06-27 11:03               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-27 11:03                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-27 12:49                 ` Will Deacon
2014-06-27 12:49                   ` Will Deacon
2014-06-27 13:16                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-27 13:16                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-06-27 13:38                     ` Catalin Marinas
2014-06-27 13:38                       ` Catalin Marinas
2014-06-27 13:38                       ` Catalin Marinas
2014-06-27 13:38                       ` Catalin Marinas
2014-06-27 16:15                   ` Rob Herring
2014-06-27 16:15                     ` Rob Herring
2014-06-30 10:17                     ` Will Deacon
2014-06-30 10:17                       ` Will Deacon
2014-06-27 14:14               ` Catalin Marinas
2014-06-27 14:14                 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-06-27 14:14                 ` Catalin Marinas
2014-06-27 14:55                 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-06-27 14:55                   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-06-27 15:18                   ` Liviu Dudau
2014-06-27 15:18                     ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-07 23:21   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-04-07 23:21     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-04-08  7:12     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-08  7:12       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-08  9:49     ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-08  9:49       ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-08 10:11       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-08 10:11         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-08 16:48         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-04-08 16:48           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-03-14 15:34 ` [PATCH v7 2/6] pci: OF: Fix the conversion of IO ranges into IO resources Liviu Dudau
2014-03-14 15:34   ` Liviu Dudau
2014-03-14 17:05   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-14 17:05     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-14 17:05     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-14 17:19     ` Liviu Dudau
2014-03-14 17:19       ` Liviu Dudau
2014-03-14 17:19       ` Liviu Dudau
2014-03-14 18:46       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-14 18:46         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-14 19:00         ` Liviu Dudau
2014-03-14 19:00           ` Liviu Dudau
2014-03-14 19:16           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-14 19:16             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-14 19:16             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-03-17 13:41             ` Liviu Dudau
2014-03-17 13:41               ` Liviu Dudau
2014-03-14 15:34 ` [PATCH v7 3/6] pci: Create pci_host_bridge before its associated bus in pci_create_root_bus Liviu Dudau
2014-03-14 15:34   ` Liviu Dudau
2014-03-14 15:34 ` [PATCH v7 4/6] pci: Introduce a domain number for pci_host_bridge Liviu Dudau
2014-03-14 15:34   ` Liviu Dudau
2014-03-14 15:34   ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-05  0:00   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-04-05  0:00     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-04-07  8:46     ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-07  8:46       ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-07  9:14       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-04-07  9:14         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-04-07  9:14         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-04-07 10:07         ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-07 10:07           ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-07 10:07           ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-07 22:44           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-04-07 22:44             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-04-08 10:20             ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-08 10:20               ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-08 16:28               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-04-08 16:28                 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-04-08 16:28                 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-04-09 12:07                 ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-09 12:07                   ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-09 14:02                   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-04-09 14:02                     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-04-09 14:08                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-09 14:08                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-09 23:49                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-04-09 23:49                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-04-10  1:27                     ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-10  1:27                       ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-10  1:27                       ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-10  3:48                       ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-04-10  3:48                         ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-04-10  8:00                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-10  8:00                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-10  8:00                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-10 13:50                           ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-04-10 13:50                             ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-04-10 14:07                             ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-10 14:07                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-10 14:07                               ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-10 14:53                               ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-10 14:53                                 ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-10 14:53                                 ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-10 20:46                                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-10 20:46                                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-11  5:01                                   ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-04-11  5:01                                     ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-04-11  8:36                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-11  8:36                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-11  9:16                                       ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-04-11  9:16                                         ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2014-04-11  9:22                                   ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-11  9:22                                     ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-11 13:51                                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-11 13:51                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-04-11 13:51                                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2014-07-01 16:37             ` Liviu Dudau
2014-07-01 16:37               ` Liviu Dudau
2014-07-04 14:57             ` Liviu Dudau
2014-07-04 14:57               ` Liviu Dudau
2014-07-08  1:11               ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-07-08  1:11                 ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-07-08 10:21                 ` Liviu Dudau
2014-07-08 10:21                   ` Liviu Dudau
2014-03-14 15:34 ` [PATCH v7 5/6] pci: Export find_pci_host_bridge() function Liviu Dudau
2014-03-14 15:34   ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-04 23:39   ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-04-04 23:39     ` Bjorn Helgaas
2014-04-07 14:20     ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-07 14:20       ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-07 14:38       ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-04-07 14:38         ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-04-07 14:38         ` One Thousand Gnomes
2014-03-14 15:34 ` [PATCH v7 6/6] pci: Add support for creating a generic host_bridge from device tree Liviu Dudau
2014-03-14 15:34   ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-08 12:57   ` Hanjun Guo
2014-04-08 12:57     ` Hanjun Guo
2014-04-08 13:09     ` Liviu Dudau
2014-04-08 13:09       ` Liviu Dudau

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