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From: Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.cz>
To: Jiri Slaby <jslaby@suse.cz>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, jirislaby@gmail.com,
	Michael Matz <matz@suse.de>, Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Dipankar Sarma <dipankar@in.ibm.com>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC 09/16] kgr: mark task_safe in some kthreads
Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 17:15:01 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140514151501.GA24142@suse.cz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <537384B9.5090907@suse.cz>

On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 04:59:05PM +0200, Jiri Slaby wrote:

> I see the worst case scenario. (For curious readers, it is for example
> this kthread body:
> while (1) {
>   some_paired_call(); /* invokes pre-patched code */
>   if (kthread_should_stop()) { /* kgraft switches to the new code */
>     its_paired_function(); /* invokes patched code (wrong) */
>     break;
>   }
>   its_paired_function(); /* the same (wrong) */
> })
> 
> What to do with that now? We have come up with a couple possibilities.
> Would you consider try_to_freeze() a good state-defining function? As it
> is called when a kthread expects weird things can happen, it should be
> safe to switch to the patched version in our opinion.
> 
> The other possibility is to patch every kthread loop (~300) and insert
> kgr_task_safe() semi-manually at some proper place.
> 
> Or if you have any other suggestions we would appreciate that?

A heretic idea would be to convert all kernel threads into functions
that do not sleep and exit after a single iteration and are called from
a central kthread main loop function. That would get all of
kthread_should_stop() and try_to_freeze() and kgr_task_safe() nicely
into one place and at the same time put enough constraint on what the
thread function can do to prevent it from breaking the assumptions of
each of these calls. 

-- 
Vojtech Pavlik
SUSE Labs

  reply	other threads:[~2014-05-14 15:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-04-30 14:30 [RFC 00/16] kGraft Jiri Slaby
2014-04-30 14:30 ` [RFC 01/16] ftrace: Add function to find fentry of function Jiri Slaby
2014-04-30 14:48   ` Steven Rostedt
2014-04-30 14:58     ` Jiri Slaby
2014-04-30 14:30 ` [RFC 02/16] ftrace: Make ftrace_is_dead available globally Jiri Slaby
2014-04-30 14:30 ` [RFC 03/16] kgr: initial code Jiri Slaby
2014-04-30 14:56   ` Steven Rostedt
2014-04-30 14:57     ` Jiri Slaby
2014-05-01 20:20   ` Andi Kleen
2014-05-01 20:37     ` Jiri Kosina
2014-05-14  9:28   ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-05-14 10:12     ` Jiri Slaby
2014-05-14 10:41       ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-05-14 10:44         ` Jiri Slaby
2014-05-14 11:19           ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-05-20 11:36     ` Jiri Slaby
2014-05-21 18:28       ` Aravinda Prasad
2014-05-26  8:50       ` Jiri Kosina
2014-04-30 14:30 ` [RFC 04/16] kgr: add testing kgraft patch Jiri Slaby
2014-05-06 11:03   ` Pavel Machek
2014-05-12 12:50     ` Jiri Slaby
2014-04-30 14:30 ` [RFC 05/16] kgr: update Kconfig documentation Jiri Slaby
2014-05-03 14:32   ` Randy Dunlap
2014-04-30 14:30 ` [RFC 06/16] kgr: add Documentation Jiri Slaby
2014-05-06 11:03   ` Pavel Machek
2014-05-09  9:31     ` kgr: dealing with optimalizations? (was Re: [RFC 06/16] kgr: add Documentat)ion Pavel Machek
2014-05-09 12:22       ` Michael Matz
2014-04-30 14:30 ` [RFC 07/16] kgr: trigger the first check earlier Jiri Slaby
2014-04-30 14:30 ` [RFC 08/16] kgr: sched.h, introduce kgr_task_safe helper Jiri Slaby
2014-04-30 14:30 ` [RFC 09/16] kgr: mark task_safe in some kthreads Jiri Slaby
2014-04-30 15:49   ` Greg Kroah-Hartman
2014-04-30 16:55   ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-04-30 18:33     ` Vojtech Pavlik
2014-04-30 19:07       ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-05-01 14:24   ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-01 20:17     ` Jiri Kosina
2014-05-01 21:02       ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-01 21:09         ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-14 14:59           ` Jiri Slaby
2014-05-14 15:15             ` Vojtech Pavlik [this message]
2014-05-14 15:30               ` Paul E. McKenney
2014-05-14 16:32               ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-15  3:53                 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-15  4:06                   ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-15  4:46                     ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-15  4:50                       ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-15  5:04                         ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-15  5:09                           ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-15  5:32                             ` Mike Galbraith
2014-05-15  6:05                               ` Tejun Heo
2014-05-15  6:32                                 ` Mike Galbraith
2014-04-30 14:30 ` [RFC 10/16] kgr: kthreads support Jiri Slaby
2014-04-30 14:30 ` [RFC 11/16] kgr: handle irqs Jiri Slaby
2014-04-30 14:30 ` [RFC 12/16] kgr: add tools Jiri Slaby
2014-05-06 11:03   ` Pavel Machek
2014-04-30 14:30 ` [RFC 13/16] kgr: add MAINTAINERS entry Jiri Slaby
2014-04-30 14:30 ` [RFC 14/16] kgr: x86: refuse to build without fentry support Jiri Slaby
2014-04-30 14:30 ` [RFC 15/16] kgr: add procfs interface for per-process 'kgr_in_progress' Jiri Slaby
2014-04-30 14:30 ` [RFC 16/16] kgr: make a per-process 'in progress' flag a single bit Jiri Slaby

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