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From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: WANG Chao <chaowang@redhat.com>, Dave Young <dyoung@redhat.com>,
	mjg59@srcf.ucam.org, bhe@redhat.com, jkosina@suse.cz,
	greg@kroah.com, kexec@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ebiederm@xmission.com,
	hpa@zytor.com, akpm@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/13] kexec: Implementation of new syscall kexec_file_load
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 08:46:09 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140613124609.GC5871@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140613075011.GA4751@pd.tnic>

On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 09:50:11AM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 11:41:37AM -0400, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> > IIUC, COMMAND_LINE_SIZE gives max limits of running kernel and it does
> > not tell us anything about command line size supported by kernel being
> > loaded.
> 
> Whatever you do, you do need a sane default because even querying the
> boot protocol is not reliable as the to-be-loaded kernel's boot protocol
> might be manipulated too, before signing (who knows what people do
> in the wild).

If signature verification is on, that should catch any manipulation to
to protocol headers.

If not, then we really can't do anything about it. A large memory
allocation will fail and user will get error. 

This is not different than length of kernel or length of initrd. Somebody
might prepare a very huge file and pass that fd to kernel and kernel will
try to read the whole thing in. If file is too large, memory allocation
will fail and user space will get error. We don't try to put an upper
limit on size of kernel image or initrd.

> 
> So having a sane, unconditional fallback COMMAND_LINE_SIZE from the
> first kernel is a must, methinks.

I disagree here. What if new kernel supports (2 * COMMAND_LINE_SIZE) length
command line. We don't want to truncate command line to smaller size
because running kernel does not support that long a command line.

Thanks
Vivek


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From: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@redhat.com>
To: Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>
Cc: mjg59@srcf.ucam.org, bhe@redhat.com, greg@kroah.com,
	hpa@zytor.com, kexec@lists.infradead.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, ebiederm@xmission.com,
	jkosina@suse.cz, akpm@linux-foundation.org,
	Dave Young <dyoung@redhat.com>, WANG Chao <chaowang@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 07/13] kexec: Implementation of new syscall kexec_file_load
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2014 08:46:09 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140613124609.GC5871@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20140613075011.GA4751@pd.tnic>

On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 09:50:11AM +0200, Borislav Petkov wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 09, 2014 at 11:41:37AM -0400, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> > IIUC, COMMAND_LINE_SIZE gives max limits of running kernel and it does
> > not tell us anything about command line size supported by kernel being
> > loaded.
> 
> Whatever you do, you do need a sane default because even querying the
> boot protocol is not reliable as the to-be-loaded kernel's boot protocol
> might be manipulated too, before signing (who knows what people do
> in the wild).

If signature verification is on, that should catch any manipulation to
to protocol headers.

If not, then we really can't do anything about it. A large memory
allocation will fail and user will get error. 

This is not different than length of kernel or length of initrd. Somebody
might prepare a very huge file and pass that fd to kernel and kernel will
try to read the whole thing in. If file is too large, memory allocation
will fail and user space will get error. We don't try to put an upper
limit on size of kernel image or initrd.

> 
> So having a sane, unconditional fallback COMMAND_LINE_SIZE from the
> first kernel is a must, methinks.

I disagree here. What if new kernel supports (2 * COMMAND_LINE_SIZE) length
command line. We don't want to truncate command line to smaller size
because running kernel does not support that long a command line.

Thanks
Vivek


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-06-13 12:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 214+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-03 13:06 [RFC PATCH 00/13][V3] kexec: A new system call to allow in kernel loading Vivek Goyal
2014-06-03 13:06 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-03 13:06 ` [PATCH 01/13] bin2c: Move bin2c in scripts/basic Vivek Goyal
2014-06-03 13:06   ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-03 16:01   ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-03 16:01     ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-03 17:13     ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-03 17:13       ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-03 13:06 ` [PATCH 02/13] kernel: Build bin2c based on config option CONFIG_BUILD_BIN2C Vivek Goyal
2014-06-03 13:06   ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-04  9:13   ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-04  9:13     ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-03 13:06 ` [PATCH 03/13] kexec: Move segment verification code in a separate function Vivek Goyal
2014-06-03 13:06   ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-04  9:32   ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-04  9:32     ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-04 18:47     ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-04 18:47       ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-04 20:30       ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-04 20:30         ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-05 14:05         ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-05 14:05           ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-05 14:07           ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-05 14:07             ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-03 13:06 ` [PATCH 04/13] resource: Provide new functions to walk through resources Vivek Goyal
2014-06-03 13:06   ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-04 10:24   ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-04 10:24     ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-05 13:58     ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-05 13:58       ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-03 13:06 ` [PATCH 05/13] kexec: Make kexec_segment user buffer pointer a union Vivek Goyal
2014-06-03 13:06   ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-04 10:34   ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-04 10:34     ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-03 13:06 ` [PATCH 06/13] kexec: New syscall kexec_file_load() declaration Vivek Goyal
2014-06-03 13:06   ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-04 15:18   ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-04 15:18     ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-05  9:56   ` WANG Chao
2014-06-05  9:56     ` WANG Chao
2014-06-05 15:16     ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-05 15:16       ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-05 15:22       ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-05 15:22         ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-06  6:34         ` WANG Chao
2014-06-06  6:34           ` WANG Chao
2014-06-03 13:06 ` [PATCH 07/13] kexec: Implementation of new syscall kexec_file_load Vivek Goyal
2014-06-03 13:06   ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-05 11:15   ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-05 11:15     ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-05 20:17     ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-05 20:17       ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-06  2:11       ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-06  2:11         ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-06 18:02         ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-06 18:02           ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-11 14:13           ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-11 14:13             ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-11 17:04             ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-11 17:04               ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-06  6:56   ` WANG Chao
2014-06-06  6:56     ` WANG Chao
2014-06-06 18:19     ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-06 18:19       ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-09  2:11       ` Dave Young
2014-06-09  2:11         ` Dave Young
2014-06-09  5:35         ` WANG Chao
2014-06-09  5:35           ` WANG Chao
2014-06-09 15:41           ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-09 15:41             ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-13  7:50             ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-13  7:50               ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-13  8:00               ` WANG Chao
2014-06-13  8:00                 ` WANG Chao
2014-06-13  8:10                 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-13  8:10                   ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-13  8:24                   ` WANG Chao
2014-06-13  8:24                     ` WANG Chao
2014-06-13  8:30                     ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-13  8:30                       ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-13 12:49                 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-13 12:49                   ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-13 12:46               ` Vivek Goyal [this message]
2014-06-13 12:46                 ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-13 15:36                 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-13 15:36                   ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-16 17:38                   ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-16 17:38                     ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-16 20:05                     ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-16 20:05                       ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-16 20:53                       ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-16 20:53                         ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-16 21:09                         ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-16 21:09                           ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-16 21:25                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-16 21:25                             ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-16 21:43                             ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-16 21:43                               ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-16 22:10                               ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-16 22:10                                 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-16 22:49                               ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-16 22:49                                 ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-09 15:30         ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-09 15:30           ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-03 13:06 ` [PATCH 08/13] purgatory/sha256: Provide implementation of sha256 in purgaotory context Vivek Goyal
2014-06-03 13:06   ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-03 13:06 ` [PATCH 09/13] purgatory: Core purgatory functionality Vivek Goyal
2014-06-03 13:06   ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-05 20:05   ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-05 20:05     ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-06 19:51     ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-06 19:51       ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-13 10:17       ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-13 10:17         ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-16 17:25         ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-16 17:25           ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-16 20:10           ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-16 20:10             ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-03 13:06 ` [PATCH 10/13] kexec: Load and Relocate purgatory at kernel load time Vivek Goyal
2014-06-03 13:06   ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-10 16:31   ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-10 16:31     ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-11 19:24     ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-11 19:24       ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-13 16:14       ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-13 16:14         ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-03 13:07 ` [PATCH 11/13] kexec-bzImage: Support for loading bzImage using 64bit entry Vivek Goyal
2014-06-03 13:07   ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-15 16:35   ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-15 16:35     ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-15 16:56     ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-15 16:56       ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-16 20:06     ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-16 20:06       ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-16 20:57       ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-16 20:57         ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-16 21:15         ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-16 21:15           ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-16 21:27           ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-16 21:27             ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-16 21:45             ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-16 21:45               ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-24 17:31     ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-24 17:31       ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-24 18:23       ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-24 18:23         ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-03 13:07 ` [PATCH 12/13] kexec: Support for Kexec on panic using new system call Vivek Goyal
2014-06-03 13:07   ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-17 21:43   ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-17 21:43     ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-18 14:20     ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-18 14:20       ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-03 13:07 ` [PATCH 13/13] kexec: Support kexec/kdump on EFI systems Vivek Goyal
2014-06-03 13:07   ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-18 15:43   ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-18 15:43     ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-18 16:06   ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-18 16:06     ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-18 16:06     ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-18 17:39     ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-18 17:39       ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-18 17:39       ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-03 13:12 ` [RFC PATCH 00/13][V3] kexec: A new system call to allow in kernel loading Vivek Goyal
2014-06-03 13:12   ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-04  9:22   ` WANG Chao
2014-06-04  9:22     ` WANG Chao
2014-06-04 17:50     ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-04 17:50       ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-04 19:39       ` Michael Kerrisk
2014-06-04 19:39         ` Michael Kerrisk
2014-06-04 19:39         ` Michael Kerrisk
2014-06-05 14:04         ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-05 14:04           ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-05 14:04           ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-06  5:45           ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-06-06  5:45             ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-06-06  5:45             ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2014-06-06 18:04             ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-06 18:04               ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-06 18:04               ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-05  8:31   ` Dave Young
2014-06-05  8:31     ` Dave Young
2014-06-05 15:01     ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-05 15:01       ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-06  7:37       ` Dave Young
2014-06-06  7:37         ` Dave Young
2014-06-06 20:04         ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-06 20:04           ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-09  1:57           ` Dave Young
2014-06-09  1:57             ` Dave Young
2014-06-06 20:37         ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-06 20:37           ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-06 20:58           ` Matt Fleming
2014-06-06 20:58             ` Matt Fleming
2014-06-06 21:00             ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-06 21:00               ` H. Peter Anvin
2014-06-06 21:02               ` Matt Fleming
2014-06-06 21:02                 ` Matt Fleming
2014-06-12  5:42 ` Dave Young
2014-06-12  5:42   ` Dave Young
2014-06-12 12:36   ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-12 12:36     ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-17 14:24   ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-17 14:24     ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-18  1:45     ` Dave Young
2014-06-18  1:45       ` Dave Young
2014-06-18  1:52       ` Dave Young
2014-06-18  1:52         ` Dave Young
2014-06-18 12:40         ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-18 12:40           ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-16 21:13 ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-16 21:13   ` Borislav Petkov
2014-06-17 13:24   ` Vivek Goyal
2014-06-17 13:24     ` Vivek Goyal

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