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From: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>
To: Guenter Roeck <linux@roeck-us.net>
Cc: linux-watchdog@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	Wim Van Sebroeck <wim@iguana.be>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>, Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>,
	Heiko Stuebner <heiko@sntech.de>,
	Jonas Jensen <jonas.jensen@gmail.com>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	linux-doc@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/6] kernel: Add support for restart notifier call chain
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 20:59:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140630195946.GI32514@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1404155499-21177-1-git-send-email-linux@roeck-us.net>

On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 12:11:33PM -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> Various drivers implement architecture and/or device specific means
> to restart (reset) the system. Various mechanisms have been implemented
> to support those schemes. The best known mechanism is arm_pm_restart,
> which is a function pointer to be set either from platform specific code
> or from drivers. Another mechanism is to use hardware watchdogs to issue
> a reset; this mechanism is used if there is no other method available
> to reset a board or system. Two examples are alim7101_wdt, which currently
> uses the reboot notifier to trigger a reset, and moxart_wdt, which registers
> the arm_pm_restart function.
> 
> The existing mechanisms have a number of drawbacks. Typically only one scheme
> to restart the system is supported (at least if arm_pm_restart is used).
> At least in theory there can be mutliple means to restart the system, some of
> which may be less desirable (for example one mechanism may only reset the CPU,
> while another may reset the entire system). Using arm_pm_restart can also be
> racy if the function pointer is set from a driver, as the driver may be in
> the process of being unloaded when arm_pm_restart is called.
> Using the reboot notifier is always racy, as it is unknown if and when
> other functions using the reboot notifier have completed execution
> by the time the watchdog fires.
> 
> To solve the problem, introduce a system restart notifier. This notifier
> is expected to be called from the architecture specific machine_restart()
> function. Drivers providing system restart functionality (such as the watchdog
> drivers mentioned above) are expected to register with this notifier.
> 
> Patch 1 of this series implements the notifier function. Patches 2 and 3
> implement calling the notifier chain from arm and arm64 restart code.
> Patch 4 and 5 convert existing restart handlers in the watchdog subsystem
> to use the restart notifier. Patch 6 unexports arm_pm_restart to ensure
> that no one gets the idea to implement a restart handler as module.

I think you need to restructure stuff somewhat, because I think
you've missed drivers/power/reset/ entirely, or at least you've
missed drivers/power/reset/restart-poweroff.c which calls
arm_pm_restart directly.  I'm not quite sure how we ended up with
that...

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From: linux@arm.linux.org.uk (Russell King - ARM Linux)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC PATCH 0/6] kernel: Add support for restart notifier call chain
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 20:59:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20140630195946.GI32514@n2100.arm.linux.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1404155499-21177-1-git-send-email-linux@roeck-us.net>

On Mon, Jun 30, 2014 at 12:11:33PM -0700, Guenter Roeck wrote:
> Various drivers implement architecture and/or device specific means
> to restart (reset) the system. Various mechanisms have been implemented
> to support those schemes. The best known mechanism is arm_pm_restart,
> which is a function pointer to be set either from platform specific code
> or from drivers. Another mechanism is to use hardware watchdogs to issue
> a reset; this mechanism is used if there is no other method available
> to reset a board or system. Two examples are alim7101_wdt, which currently
> uses the reboot notifier to trigger a reset, and moxart_wdt, which registers
> the arm_pm_restart function.
> 
> The existing mechanisms have a number of drawbacks. Typically only one scheme
> to restart the system is supported (at least if arm_pm_restart is used).
> At least in theory there can be mutliple means to restart the system, some of
> which may be less desirable (for example one mechanism may only reset the CPU,
> while another may reset the entire system). Using arm_pm_restart can also be
> racy if the function pointer is set from a driver, as the driver may be in
> the process of being unloaded when arm_pm_restart is called.
> Using the reboot notifier is always racy, as it is unknown if and when
> other functions using the reboot notifier have completed execution
> by the time the watchdog fires.
> 
> To solve the problem, introduce a system restart notifier. This notifier
> is expected to be called from the architecture specific machine_restart()
> function. Drivers providing system restart functionality (such as the watchdog
> drivers mentioned above) are expected to register with this notifier.
> 
> Patch 1 of this series implements the notifier function. Patches 2 and 3
> implement calling the notifier chain from arm and arm64 restart code.
> Patch 4 and 5 convert existing restart handlers in the watchdog subsystem
> to use the restart notifier. Patch 6 unexports arm_pm_restart to ensure
> that no one gets the idea to implement a restart handler as module.

I think you need to restructure stuff somewhat, because I think
you've missed drivers/power/reset/ entirely, or at least you've
missed drivers/power/reset/restart-poweroff.c which calls
arm_pm_restart directly.  I'm not quite sure how we ended up with
that...

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FTTC broadband for 0.8mile line: now at 9.7Mbps down 460kbps up... slowly
improving, and getting towards what was expected from it.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2014-06-30 20:00 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2014-06-30 19:11 [RFC PATCH 0/6] kernel: Add support for restart notifier call chain Guenter Roeck
2014-06-30 19:11 ` Guenter Roeck
2014-06-30 19:11 ` [RFC PATCH 1/6] " Guenter Roeck
2014-06-30 19:11   ` Guenter Roeck
2014-06-30 19:11 ` [RFC PATCH 2/6] arm64: Support restart through " Guenter Roeck
2014-06-30 19:11   ` Guenter Roeck
2014-07-01  7:26   ` Maxime Ripard
2014-07-01  7:26     ` Maxime Ripard
2014-07-01 13:39     ` Guenter Roeck
2014-07-01 13:39       ` Guenter Roeck
2014-06-30 19:11 ` [RFC PATCH 3/6] arm: " Guenter Roeck
2014-06-30 19:11   ` Guenter Roeck
2014-06-30 19:55   ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-06-30 19:55     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-06-30 19:11 ` [RFC PATCH 4/6] watchdog: moxart: Register restart handler with restart notifier Guenter Roeck
2014-06-30 19:11   ` Guenter Roeck
2014-06-30 19:11 ` [RFC PATCH 5/6] watchdog: alim7101: " Guenter Roeck
2014-06-30 19:11   ` Guenter Roeck
2014-06-30 19:11 ` [RFC PATCH 6/6] arm/arm64: Unexport restart handlers Guenter Roeck
2014-06-30 19:11   ` Guenter Roeck
2014-06-30 19:59 ` Russell King - ARM Linux [this message]
2014-06-30 19:59   ` [RFC PATCH 0/6] kernel: Add support for restart notifier call chain Russell King - ARM Linux
2014-06-30 20:28   ` Guenter Roeck
2014-06-30 20:28     ` Guenter Roeck
2014-07-01 11:24     ` Catalin Marinas
2014-07-01 11:24       ` Catalin Marinas
2014-07-01 11:24       ` Catalin Marinas
2014-07-01 13:45       ` Guenter Roeck
2014-07-01 13:45         ` Guenter Roeck
2014-07-01 13:45         ` Guenter Roeck
2014-07-01 17:08         ` Catalin Marinas
2014-07-01 17:08           ` Catalin Marinas
2014-07-01 17:08           ` Catalin Marinas

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