* NFSv4.1 ACL reference implementation
@ 2014-07-29 19:18 McEvoy, James
2014-07-29 21:09 ` J. Bruce Fields
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From: McEvoy, James @ 2014-07-29 19:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-nfs
Is there a working NFSv4.1 reference implementation available and are there any instructs on how to build/install it?
--jim
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* Re: NFSv4.1 ACL reference implementation
2014-07-29 19:18 NFSv4.1 ACL reference implementation McEvoy, James
@ 2014-07-29 21:09 ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-07-30 17:08 ` McEvoy, James
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From: J. Bruce Fields @ 2014-07-29 21:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: McEvoy, James; +Cc: linux-nfs
On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 07:18:03PM +0000, McEvoy, James wrote:
> Is there a working NFSv4.1 reference implementation available and are there any instructs on how to build/install it?
I don't recall seeing any, no.
(Most NFSv4.0 ACL implementations should still be perfectly compliant
with the NFSv4.1 spec too as far as I know. But I don't know of any
implementations of the ACL features that are new to RFC 5661. Is there
any particular feature that you're interested in?)
--b.
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* RE: NFSv4.1 ACL reference implementation
2014-07-29 21:09 ` J. Bruce Fields
@ 2014-07-30 17:08 ` McEvoy, James
2014-07-30 18:05 ` J. Bruce Fields
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: McEvoy, James @ 2014-07-30 17:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: J. Bruce Fields; +Cc: linux-nfs
We are implementing NFSv4.1 ACLs in the filesystem mostly to support
SMB/CIFS but I am seeing some strange behavior with ACL group
inheritance on children/grand-children using the nfs4_setfacl and
nfs4_getfacl on the parent directory. The problems are mostly with
inheritance on the @OWNER and @GROUP ACEs...
What I am looking for is a reference that I can use to validate ACL
inheritance behavior. Is there a distro that has a filesystem which supports
NFSv4 ACLs? Or ideally an rpm that I could install on a CentOS6 VM.
I have tried using the richacl mount option on OpenSUSE 13.1 but the
nfs4_getfacl command returns:
"Operation to request attribute not supported."
The fstab entry to mount the filesystem is:
/dev/disk/by-id/scsi-0QEMU_QEMU_HARDDISK_drive-scsi0-0-0-0-part3 \
/home ext4 acl,richacl,user_xattr 1 2
Do you have any recommendations as to what and how I can install
a filesystem that supports nfsv4 ACLs?
--jim
> -----Original Message-----
> From: linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org [mailto:linux-nfs-
> owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of J. Bruce Fields
> Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 2:09 PM
> To: McEvoy, James
> Cc: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
> Subject: Re: NFSv4.1 ACL reference implementation
>
> On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 07:18:03PM +0000, McEvoy, James wrote:
> > Is there a working NFSv4.1 reference implementation available and are there
> any instructs on how to build/install it?
>
> I don't recall seeing any, no.
>
> (Most NFSv4.0 ACL implementations should still be perfectly compliant with the
> NFSv4.1 spec too as far as I know. But I don't know of any implementations of
> the ACL features that are new to RFC 5661. Is there any particular feature that
> you're interested in?)
>
> --b.
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* Re: NFSv4.1 ACL reference implementation
2014-07-30 17:08 ` McEvoy, James
@ 2014-07-30 18:05 ` J. Bruce Fields
2014-07-30 18:15 ` McEvoy, James
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: J. Bruce Fields @ 2014-07-30 18:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: McEvoy, James; +Cc: linux-nfs
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 05:08:25PM +0000, McEvoy, James wrote:
> We are implementing NFSv4.1 ACLs in the filesystem mostly to support
> SMB/CIFS but I am seeing some strange behavior with ACL group
> inheritance on children/grand-children using the nfs4_setfacl and
> nfs4_getfacl on the parent directory. The problems are mostly with
> inheritance on the @OWNER and @GROUP ACEs...
The usual problem is that the umask is applied.
> What I am looking for is a reference that I can use to validate ACL
> inheritance behavior. Is there a distro that has a filesystem which supports
> NFSv4 ACLs? Or ideally an rpm that I could install on a CentOS6 VM.
> I have tried using the richacl mount option on OpenSUSE 13.1 but the
> nfs4_getfacl command returns:
> "Operation to request attribute not supported."
> The fstab entry to mount the filesystem is:
> /dev/disk/by-id/scsi-0QEMU_QEMU_HARDDISK_drive-scsi0-0-0-0-part3 \
> /home ext4 acl,richacl,user_xattr 1 2
>
> Do you have any recommendations as to what and how I can install
> a filesystem that supports nfsv4 ACLs?
No, they all just do "posix" acls and nfsd tries to translate.
But the umask issue is somewhat of a separate issue.
--b.
>
> --jim
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org [mailto:linux-nfs-
> > owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of J. Bruce Fields
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 2:09 PM
> > To: McEvoy, James
> > Cc: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
> > Subject: Re: NFSv4.1 ACL reference implementation
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 07:18:03PM +0000, McEvoy, James wrote:
> > > Is there a working NFSv4.1 reference implementation available and are there
> > any instructs on how to build/install it?
> >
> > I don't recall seeing any, no.
> >
> > (Most NFSv4.0 ACL implementations should still be perfectly compliant with the
> > NFSv4.1 spec too as far as I know. But I don't know of any implementations of
> > the ACL features that are new to RFC 5661. Is there any particular feature that
> > you're interested in?)
> >
> > --b.
> > --
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* RE: NFSv4.1 ACL reference implementation
2014-07-30 18:05 ` J. Bruce Fields
@ 2014-07-30 18:15 ` McEvoy, James
2014-07-30 18:21 ` J. Bruce Fields
0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: McEvoy, James @ 2014-07-30 18:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: J. Bruce Fields; +Cc: linux-nfs, Fernandez, Roselle N, Palanisamy, Nandesh
> -----Original Message-----
> From: linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org [mailto:linux-nfs-
> owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of J. Bruce Fields
> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 11:06 AM
> To: McEvoy, James
> Cc: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
> Subject: Re: NFSv4.1 ACL reference implementation
>
> On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 05:08:25PM +0000, McEvoy, James wrote:
> > We are implementing NFSv4.1 ACLs in the filesystem mostly to support
> > SMB/CIFS but I am seeing some strange behavior with ACL group
> > inheritance on children/grand-children using the nfs4_setfacl and
> > nfs4_getfacl on the parent directory. The problems are mostly with
> > inheritance on the @OWNER and @GROUP ACEs...
>
> The usual problem is that the umask is applied.
Where can I find the proper behavior between umask and inheritance?
>
> > What I am looking for is a reference that I can use to validate ACL
> > inheritance behavior. Is there a distro that has a filesystem which
> > supports
> > NFSv4 ACLs? Or ideally an rpm that I could install on a CentOS6 VM.
> > I have tried using the richacl mount option on OpenSUSE 13.1 but the
> > nfs4_getfacl command returns:
> > "Operation to request attribute not supported."
> > The fstab entry to mount the filesystem is:
> > /dev/disk/by-id/scsi-0QEMU_QEMU_HARDDISK_drive-scsi0-0-0-0-part3 \
> > /home ext4 acl,richacl,user_xattr 1 2
> >
> > Do you have any recommendations as to what and how I can install a
> > filesystem that supports nfsv4 ACLs?
>
> No, they all just do "posix" acls and nfsd tries to translate.
>
> But the umask issue is somewhat of a separate issue.
>
> --b.
>
> >
> > --jim
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org [mailto:linux-nfs-
> > > owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of J. Bruce Fields
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 2:09 PM
> > > To: McEvoy, James
> > > Cc: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
> > > Subject: Re: NFSv4.1 ACL reference implementation
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 07:18:03PM +0000, McEvoy, James wrote:
> > > > Is there a working NFSv4.1 reference implementation available and
> > > > are there
> > > any instructs on how to build/install it?
> > >
> > > I don't recall seeing any, no.
> > >
> > > (Most NFSv4.0 ACL implementations should still be perfectly
> > > compliant with the
> > > NFSv4.1 spec too as far as I know. But I don't know of any
> > > implementations of the ACL features that are new to RFC 5661. Is
> > > there any particular feature that you're interested in?)
> > >
> > > --b.
> > > --
> > > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-nfs"
> > > in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo
> > > info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
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* Re: NFSv4.1 ACL reference implementation
2014-07-30 18:15 ` McEvoy, James
@ 2014-07-30 18:21 ` J. Bruce Fields
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From: J. Bruce Fields @ 2014-07-30 18:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: McEvoy, James; +Cc: linux-nfs, Fernandez, Roselle N, Palanisamy, Nandesh
On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 06:15:37PM +0000, McEvoy, James wrote:
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org [mailto:linux-nfs-
> > owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of J. Bruce Fields
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2014 11:06 AM
> > To: McEvoy, James
> > Cc: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
> > Subject: Re: NFSv4.1 ACL reference implementation
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 05:08:25PM +0000, McEvoy, James wrote:
> > > We are implementing NFSv4.1 ACLs in the filesystem mostly to support
> > > SMB/CIFS but I am seeing some strange behavior with ACL group
> > > inheritance on children/grand-children using the nfs4_setfacl and
> > > nfs4_getfacl on the parent directory. The problems are mostly with
> > > inheritance on the @OWNER and @GROUP ACEs...
> >
> > The usual problem is that the umask is applied.
>
> Where can I find the proper behavior between umask and inheritance?
For "posix" ACLs on local linux filesystems, the umask is just ignored
in the case where we're creating a new file in a directory with
default (inheritable) ACLs.
In the v4 case that doesn't happen. I think this probably a bug that
needs to be fixed, but I'm not sure how.
--b.
> > > What I am looking for is a reference that I can use to validate ACL
> > > inheritance behavior. Is there a distro that has a filesystem which
> > > supports
> > > NFSv4 ACLs? Or ideally an rpm that I could install on a CentOS6 VM.
> > > I have tried using the richacl mount option on OpenSUSE 13.1 but the
> > > nfs4_getfacl command returns:
> > > "Operation to request attribute not supported."
> > > The fstab entry to mount the filesystem is:
> > > /dev/disk/by-id/scsi-0QEMU_QEMU_HARDDISK_drive-scsi0-0-0-0-part3 \
> > > /home ext4 acl,richacl,user_xattr 1 2
> > >
> > > Do you have any recommendations as to what and how I can install a
> > > filesystem that supports nfsv4 ACLs?
> >
> > No, they all just do "posix" acls and nfsd tries to translate.
> >
> > But the umask issue is somewhat of a separate issue.
> >
> > --b.
> >
> > >
> > > --jim
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org [mailto:linux-nfs-
> > > > owner@vger.kernel.org] On Behalf Of J. Bruce Fields
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 2:09 PM
> > > > To: McEvoy, James
> > > > Cc: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
> > > > Subject: Re: NFSv4.1 ACL reference implementation
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Jul 29, 2014 at 07:18:03PM +0000, McEvoy, James wrote:
> > > > > Is there a working NFSv4.1 reference implementation available and
> > > > > are there
> > > > any instructs on how to build/install it?
> > > >
> > > > I don't recall seeing any, no.
> > > >
> > > > (Most NFSv4.0 ACL implementations should still be perfectly
> > > > compliant with the
> > > > NFSv4.1 spec too as far as I know. But I don't know of any
> > > > implementations of the ACL features that are new to RFC 5661. Is
> > > > there any particular feature that you're interested in?)
> > > >
> > > > --b.
> > > > --
> > > > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-nfs"
> > > > in the body of a message to majordomo@vger.kernel.org More majordomo
> > > > info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
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