i686 binutils failing to build for SDK 7.0 build

i686 binutils failing to build for SDK 7.0 build

[Matt Schuckmann]

I'm trying to build a basic image using Arago, SDK 7.0 config (configs/amsdk/amsdk-07.00.00.00-config.txt) and binutils 2.20.1 is failing to compile for the i686 host system. 
I'm building on a Ubuntu 14.04 32bit VM. 

My bitbake command is: 
MACHINE=am335x-evm;bitbake core-image-minimal

The errors are:
binutils-native/2.20.1-r9/binutils-2.20.1/bfd/doc/bfd.texinfo:326: unknown command `colophon'
binutils-native/2.20.1-r9/binutils-2.20.1/bfd/doc/bfd.texinfo:337: unknown command `cygnus'

It looks like this was a known problem for building binutils that has been fixed a long time ago and since SDK 7.0 is released code I would have assumed the problem was taken care for the Arago build so I'm a little puzzled why I'm getting this now. 

Any help would be appreciated. 
Thanks,
Matt S. 

Re: i686 binutils failing to build for SDK 7.0 build

[Denys Dmytriyenko]

On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 10:44:28AM -0700, Matt Schuckmann wrote:
> I'm trying to build a basic image using Arago, SDK 7.0 config 
> (configs/amsdk/amsdk-07.00.00.00-config.txt) and binutils 2.20.1 is failing 
> to compile for the i686 host system.
> I'm building on a Ubuntu 14.04 32bit VM. 
> 
> My bitbake command is: 
> MACHINE=am335x-evm;bitbake core-image-minimal
> 
> The errors are:
> binutils-native/2.20.1-r9/binutils-2.20.1/bfd/doc/bfd.texinfo:326: unknown command `colophon'
> binutils-native/2.20.1-r9/binutils-2.20.1/bfd/doc/bfd.texinfo:337: unknown command `cygnus'
> 
> It looks like this was a known problem for building binutils that has been 
> fixed a long time ago and since SDK 7.0 is released code I would have 
> assumed the problem was taken care for the Arago build so I'm a little 
> puzzled why I'm getting this now.

Matt,

Since you are using amsdk-07.00.00.00-config.txt config, you are building the 
same exact version that was released as AMSDK 7.0. That config is not being 
updated to pick up any latest code.

If you want to try latest code base, you better off trying arago-daisy-config.txt
That would pull in everything latest from corresponding Daisy branches, which 
is the latest stable release.

-- 
Denys

Re: i686 binutils failing to build for SDK 7.0 build

[Matt Schuckmann]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Denys Dmytriyenko [mailto:denys@ti.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 11:07 AM
> To: Matt Schuckmann
> Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org
> Subject: Re: [meta-arago] i686 binutils failing to build for SDK 7.0
> build
> 
> On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 10:44:28AM -0700, Matt Schuckmann wrote:
> > I'm trying to build a basic image using Arago, SDK 7.0 config
> > (configs/amsdk/amsdk-07.00.00.00-config.txt) and binutils 2.20.1 is
> > failing to compile for the i686 host system.
> > I'm building on a Ubuntu 14.04 32bit VM.
> >
> > My bitbake command is:
> > MACHINE=am335x-evm;bitbake core-image-minimal
> >
> > The errors are:
> > binutils-native/2.20.1-r9/binutils-2.20.1/bfd/doc/bfd.texinfo:326:
> unknown command `colophon'
> > binutils-native/2.20.1-r9/binutils-2.20.1/bfd/doc/bfd.texinfo:337:
> unknown command `cygnus'
> >
> > It looks like this was a known problem for building binutils that has
> > been fixed a long time ago and since SDK 7.0 is released code I would
> > have assumed the problem was taken care for the Arago build so I'm a
> > little puzzled why I'm getting this now.
> 
> Matt,
> 
> Since you are using amsdk-07.00.00.00-config.txt config, you are
> building the same exact version that was released as AMSDK 7.0. That
> config is not being updated to pick up any latest code.
> 
> If you want to try latest code base, you better off trying arago-daisy-
> config.txt That would pull in everything latest from corresponding
> Daisy branches, which is the latest stable release.
> 
> --
> Denys

Denys, 

I intentionally picked SDK 7.0 because is it "tested" and released code so I figured it would have a better chance of working and being supported. If that is not the case please let me know. I want a good stable point to start development of my own image for a custom am335x board.

I did just figure out that the problem is the newer version of texinfo (version 5.2) packaged with Ubuntu 14.04 is not compatible with the older version of binutils (version 2.20.1) that is built for SDK 7.0. I manually downgraded my system to texinfo 4.13a and got past the error. 

Thanks,
Matt S. 

Re: i686 binutils failing to build for SDK 7.0 build

[Cooper Jr., Franklin]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: meta-arago-bounces@arago-project.org [mailto:meta-arago-
> bounces@arago-project.org] On Behalf Of Dmytriyenko, Denys
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 1:07 PM
> To: Matt Schuckmann
> Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org
> Subject: Re: [meta-arago] i686 binutils failing to build for SDK 7.0 build
> 
> On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 10:44:28AM -0700, Matt Schuckmann wrote:
> > I'm trying to build a basic image using Arago, SDK 7.0 config
> > (configs/amsdk/amsdk-07.00.00.00-config.txt) and binutils 2.20.1 is
> > failing to compile for the i686 host system.
> > I'm building on a Ubuntu 14.04 32bit VM.
> >
> > My bitbake command is:
> > MACHINE=am335x-evm;bitbake core-image-minimal
> >
> > The errors are:
> > binutils-native/2.20.1-r9/binutils-2.20.1/bfd/doc/bfd.texinfo:326: unknown
> command `colophon'
> > binutils-native/2.20.1-r9/binutils-2.20.1/bfd/doc/bfd.texinfo:337: unknown
> command `cygnus'
> >
> > It looks like this was a known problem for building binutils that has
> > been fixed a long time ago and since SDK 7.0 is released code I would
> > have assumed the problem was taken care for the Arago build so I'm a
> > little puzzled why I'm getting this now.
 [Franklin] I'm assuming that your issue is related to Ubuntu 14.04. I need to install it eventually anyway very soon so I can give it a try and hopefully help you with your issue.
> 
> Matt,
> 
> Since you are using amsdk-07.00.00.00-config.txt config, you are building the
> same exact version that was released as AMSDK 7.0. That config is not being
> updated to pick up any latest code.
[Franklin]  Unless he wants something stable since has already been released and also will be supported outside of this mailing list.
> 
> If you want to try latest code base, you better off trying arago-daisy-config.txt
> That would pull in everything latest from corresponding Daisy branches,
> which is the latest stable release.
[Franklin] Will eventually become stable.
> 

> --
> Denys
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> meta-arago mailing list
> meta-arago@arago-project.org
> http://arago-project.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/meta-arago

Re: i686 binutils failing to build for SDK 7.0 build

[Denys Dmytriyenko]

On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 11:19:35AM -0700, Matt Schuckmann wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Denys Dmytriyenko [mailto:denys@ti.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 11:07 AM
> > To: Matt Schuckmann
> > Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org
> > Subject: Re: [meta-arago] i686 binutils failing to build for SDK 7.0
> > build
> > 
> > On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 10:44:28AM -0700, Matt Schuckmann wrote:
> > > I'm trying to build a basic image using Arago, SDK 7.0 config
> > > (configs/amsdk/amsdk-07.00.00.00-config.txt) and binutils 2.20.1 is
> > > failing to compile for the i686 host system.
> > > I'm building on a Ubuntu 14.04 32bit VM.
> > >
> > > My bitbake command is:
> > > MACHINE=am335x-evm;bitbake core-image-minimal
> > >
> > > The errors are:
> > > binutils-native/2.20.1-r9/binutils-2.20.1/bfd/doc/bfd.texinfo:326:
> > unknown command `colophon'
> > > binutils-native/2.20.1-r9/binutils-2.20.1/bfd/doc/bfd.texinfo:337:
> > unknown command `cygnus'
> > >
> > > It looks like this was a known problem for building binutils that has
> > > been fixed a long time ago and since SDK 7.0 is released code I would
> > > have assumed the problem was taken care for the Arago build so I'm a
> > > little puzzled why I'm getting this now.
> > 
> > Matt,
> > 
> > Since you are using amsdk-07.00.00.00-config.txt config, you are
> > building the same exact version that was released as AMSDK 7.0. That
> > config is not being updated to pick up any latest code.
> > 
> > If you want to try latest code base, you better off trying arago-daisy-
> > config.txt That would pull in everything latest from corresponding
> > Daisy branches, which is the latest stable release.
> 
> Denys, 
> 
> I intentionally picked SDK 7.0 because is it "tested" and released code so I 
> figured it would have a better chance of working and being supported. If 
> that is not the case please let me know. I want a good stable point to start 
> development of my own image for a custom am335x board.
> 
> I did just figure out that the problem is the newer version of texinfo 
> (version 5.2) packaged with Ubuntu 14.04 is not compatible with the older 
> version of binutils (version 2.20.1) that is built for SDK 7.0. I manually 
> downgraded my system to texinfo 4.13a and got past the error.

Matt,

That is fine - if you want to base your work on an official release, you 
should stick to AMSDK 7.0 config. I thought you were trying to get the latest 
code pulled in, which would be a different approach.

AMSDK 7.0 was based on Dylan, which is now 3 versions behind the latest Yocto 
Project release. It was validated on Ubuntu 12.04 (and 10.04), so it may have 
incompatibility issues with newer Linux distros, like you found out. This is a 
more generic issue - the wider the time gap between the versions of the tools 
being used (e.g. Linux host distro, cross toolchain, etc) and the components 
being built (e.g. kernel, bootloader, user space apps, etc), the higher 
chances are for extra issues, breakage and other weird problems...

-- 
Denys

Re: i686 binutils failing to build for SDK 7.0 build

[Denys Dmytriyenko]

On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 02:24:37PM -0400, Cooper Jr., Franklin wrote:
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: meta-arago-bounces@arago-project.org [mailto:meta-arago-
> > bounces@arago-project.org] On Behalf Of Dmytriyenko, Denys
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 1:07 PM
> > To: Matt Schuckmann
> > Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org
> > Subject: Re: [meta-arago] i686 binutils failing to build for SDK 7.0 build
> > 
> > On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 10:44:28AM -0700, Matt Schuckmann wrote:
> > > I'm trying to build a basic image using Arago, SDK 7.0 config
> > > (configs/amsdk/amsdk-07.00.00.00-config.txt) and binutils 2.20.1 is
> > > failing to compile for the i686 host system.
> > > I'm building on a Ubuntu 14.04 32bit VM.
> > >
> > > My bitbake command is:
> > > MACHINE=am335x-evm;bitbake core-image-minimal
> > >
> > > The errors are:
> > > binutils-native/2.20.1-r9/binutils-2.20.1/bfd/doc/bfd.texinfo:326: unknown
> > command `colophon'
> > > binutils-native/2.20.1-r9/binutils-2.20.1/bfd/doc/bfd.texinfo:337: unknown
> > command `cygnus'
> > >
> > > It looks like this was a known problem for building binutils that has
> > > been fixed a long time ago and since SDK 7.0 is released code I would
> > > have assumed the problem was taken care for the Arago build so I'm a
> > > little puzzled why I'm getting this now.

>  [Franklin] I'm assuming that your issue is related to Ubuntu 14.04. I need 
>  to install it eventually anyway very soon so I can give it a try and 
>  hopefully help you with your issue.

See the other reply talking about the specific reason 14.04 fails.


> > Since you are using amsdk-07.00.00.00-config.txt config, you are building the
> > same exact version that was released as AMSDK 7.0. That config is not being
> > updated to pick up any latest code.

> [Franklin] Unless he wants something stable since has already been released 

Again, see the other reply - I got an impression by the last paragraph above 
that the requirement was to pull in some recent fixes for binutils. That won't 
be done in AMSDK 7.0, as it's already released and closed.


> and also will be supported outside of this mailing list.

Just a reminder - this is the Arago development mailing list, not AMSDK 
support mailing list. I don't mind these questions, but the assumption would 
always be that people want the latest stuff, since it's a community facing 
list.


> > If you want to try latest code base, you better off trying arago-daisy-config.txt
> > That would pull in everything latest from corresponding Daisy branches,
> > which is the latest stable release.

> [Franklin] Will eventually become stable.

It's a point of view - Daisy is already a stable release of the Yocto Project. 
Arago currently is based on Daisy, but it hasn't been relesed yet.

-- 
Denys

Re: i686 binutils failing to build for SDK 7.0 build

[Matt Schuckmann]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Denys Dmytriyenko [mailto:denys@ti.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 11:46 AM
> To: Cooper Jr., Franklin
> Cc: Matt Schuckmann; meta-arago@arago-project.org
> Subject: Re: [meta-arago] i686 binutils failing to build for SDK 7.0
> build
> 
> On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 02:24:37PM -0400, Cooper Jr., Franklin wrote:
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: meta-arago-bounces@arago-project.org [mailto:meta-arago-
> > > bounces@arago-project.org] On Behalf Of Dmytriyenko, Denys
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 1:07 PM
> > > To: Matt Schuckmann
> > > Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org
> > > Subject: Re: [meta-arago] i686 binutils failing to build for SDK
> 7.0
> > > build
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 10:44:28AM -0700, Matt Schuckmann wrote:
> > > > I'm trying to build a basic image using Arago, SDK 7.0 config
> > > > (configs/amsdk/amsdk-07.00.00.00-config.txt) and binutils 2.20.1
> > > > is failing to compile for the i686 host system.
> > > > I'm building on a Ubuntu 14.04 32bit VM.
> > > >
> > > > My bitbake command is:
> > > > MACHINE=am335x-evm;bitbake core-image-minimal
> > > >
> > > > The errors are:
> > > > binutils-native/2.20.1-r9/binutils-
> 2.20.1/bfd/doc/bfd.texinfo:326:
> > > > unknown
> > > command `colophon'
> > > > binutils-native/2.20.1-r9/binutils-
> 2.20.1/bfd/doc/bfd.texinfo:337:
> > > > unknown
> > > command `cygnus'
> > > >
> > > > It looks like this was a known problem for building binutils that
> > > > has been fixed a long time ago and since SDK 7.0 is released code
> > > > I would have assumed the problem was taken care for the Arago
> > > > build so I'm a little puzzled why I'm getting this now.
> 
> >  [Franklin] I'm assuming that your issue is related to Ubuntu 14.04.
> I
> > need  to install it eventually anyway very soon so I can give it a
> try
> > and  hopefully help you with your issue.
> 
> See the other reply talking about the specific reason 14.04 fails.
> 
> 
> > > Since you are using amsdk-07.00.00.00-config.txt config, you are
> > > building the same exact version that was released as AMSDK 7.0.
> That
> > > config is not being updated to pick up any latest code.
> 
> > [Franklin] Unless he wants something stable since has already been
> > released
> 
> Again, see the other reply - I got an impression by the last paragraph
> above that the requirement was to pull in some recent fixes for
> binutils. That won't be done in AMSDK 7.0, as it's already released and
> closed.
> 
> 
> > and also will be supported outside of this mailing list.
> 
> Just a reminder - this is the Arago development mailing list, not AMSDK
> support mailing list. I don't mind these questions, but the assumption
> would always be that people want the latest stuff, since it's a
> community facing list.

It seems that a question about creating a image based on released and tested software i.e the SDK 7.0 tags in Arago is an appropriate question for this list. If not this list then where?

I really just want to know where to start and the TI websites, and documentation provide a lot of options but very little guidance and it seems to very much be a moving target. Typically a good place to start is a released version but your comments seem to indicate that it's not so. I'm sorry if posted in the wrong place it seemed like this was the best list to get an answer specific to building source from Arago. 

Matt S. 

Re: i686 binutils failing to build for SDK 7.0 build

[Cooper Jr., Franklin]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dmytriyenko, Denys
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 1:46 PM
> To: Cooper Jr., Franklin
> Cc: Matt Schuckmann; meta-arago@arago-project.org
> Subject: Re: [meta-arago] i686 binutils failing to build for SDK 7.0 build
> 
> On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 02:24:37PM -0400, Cooper Jr., Franklin wrote:
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: meta-arago-bounces@arago-project.org [mailto:meta-arago-
> > > bounces@arago-project.org] On Behalf Of Dmytriyenko, Denys
> > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 1:07 PM
> > > To: Matt Schuckmann
> > > Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org
> > > Subject: Re: [meta-arago] i686 binutils failing to build for SDK 7.0
> > > build
> > >
> > > On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 10:44:28AM -0700, Matt Schuckmann wrote:
> > > > I'm trying to build a basic image using Arago, SDK 7.0 config
> > > > (configs/amsdk/amsdk-07.00.00.00-config.txt) and binutils 2.20.1
> > > > is failing to compile for the i686 host system.
> > > > I'm building on a Ubuntu 14.04 32bit VM.
> > > >
> > > > My bitbake command is:
> > > > MACHINE=am335x-evm;bitbake core-image-minimal
> > > >
> > > > The errors are:
> > > > binutils-native/2.20.1-r9/binutils-2.20.1/bfd/doc/bfd.texinfo:326:
> > > > unknown
> > > command `colophon'
> > > > binutils-native/2.20.1-r9/binutils-2.20.1/bfd/doc/bfd.texinfo:337:
> > > > unknown
> > > command `cygnus'
> > > >
> > > > It looks like this was a known problem for building binutils that
> > > > has been fixed a long time ago and since SDK 7.0 is released code
> > > > I would have assumed the problem was taken care for the Arago
> > > > build so I'm a little puzzled why I'm getting this now.
> 
> >  [Franklin] I'm assuming that your issue is related to Ubuntu 14.04. I
> > need  to install it eventually anyway very soon so I can give it a try
> > and  hopefully help you with your issue.
> 
> See the other reply talking about the specific reason 14.04 fails.
[Franklin] He replied while I was responding.. No confusion after I saw his response.
> 
> 
> > > Since you are using amsdk-07.00.00.00-config.txt config, you are
> > > building the same exact version that was released as AMSDK 7.0. That
> > > config is not being updated to pick up any latest code.
> 
> > [Franklin] Unless he wants something stable since has already been
> > released
> 
> Again, see the other reply - I got an impression by the last paragraph above
> that the requirement was to pull in some recent fixes for binutils. That won't
> be done in AMSDK 7.0, as it's already released and closed.
[Franklin]  Similar to your dora patches you submitted recently no reason we/I couldn't do the same.
> 
> 
> > and also will be supported outside of this mailing list.
> 
> Just a reminder - this is the Arago development mailing list, not AMSDK
> support mailing list. I don't mind these questions, but the assumption would
> always be that people want the latest stuff, since it's a community facing list.
[Franklin] I never called it an AMSDK support list but your leaving maintenance branches up for a reason.  
> 
> 
> > > If you want to try latest code base, you better off trying
> > > arago-daisy-config.txt That would pull in everything latest from
> > > corresponding Daisy branches, which is the latest stable release.
> 
> > [Franklin] Will eventually become stable.
> 
> It's a point of view - Daisy is already a stable release of the Yocto Project.
> Arago currently is based on Daisy, but it hasn't been relesed yet.
[Franklin] Meta-arago and meta-ti has been relatively unstable recently with other pieces of software under development with varying degrees of stability. So outside those two layers things maybe stable but there is a bit of turbulence while we work through a release.

I would just prefer giving people (myself) a chance to help others out especially if there are using an SDK specific config.
> 
> --
> Denys

Re: i686 binutils failing to build for SDK 7.0 build

[Cooper Jr., Franklin]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Schuckmann [mailto:Matt.Schuckmann@planar.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 1:55 PM
> To: Dmytriyenko, Denys; Cooper Jr., Franklin
> Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org
> Subject: RE: [meta-arago] i686 binutils failing to build for SDK 7.0 build
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Denys Dmytriyenko [mailto:denys@ti.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 11:46 AM
> > To: Cooper Jr., Franklin
> > Cc: Matt Schuckmann; meta-arago@arago-project.org
> > Subject: Re: [meta-arago] i686 binutils failing to build for SDK 7.0
> > build
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 02:24:37PM -0400, Cooper Jr., Franklin wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: meta-arago-bounces@arago-project.org [mailto:meta-arago-
> > > > bounces@arago-project.org] On Behalf Of Dmytriyenko, Denys
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 1:07 PM
> > > > To: Matt Schuckmann
> > > > Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [meta-arago] i686 binutils failing to build for SDK
> > 7.0
> > > > build
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 10:44:28AM -0700, Matt Schuckmann wrote:
> > > > > I'm trying to build a basic image using Arago, SDK 7.0 config
> > > > > (configs/amsdk/amsdk-07.00.00.00-config.txt) and binutils 2.20.1
> > > > > is failing to compile for the i686 host system.
> > > > > I'm building on a Ubuntu 14.04 32bit VM.
> > > > >
> > > > > My bitbake command is:
> > > > > MACHINE=am335x-evm;bitbake core-image-minimal
> > > > >
> > > > > The errors are:
> > > > > binutils-native/2.20.1-r9/binutils-
> > 2.20.1/bfd/doc/bfd.texinfo:326:
> > > > > unknown
> > > > command `colophon'
> > > > > binutils-native/2.20.1-r9/binutils-
> > 2.20.1/bfd/doc/bfd.texinfo:337:
> > > > > unknown
> > > > command `cygnus'
> > > > >
> > > > > It looks like this was a known problem for building binutils
> > > > > that has been fixed a long time ago and since SDK 7.0 is
> > > > > released code I would have assumed the problem was taken care
> > > > > for the Arago build so I'm a little puzzled why I'm getting this now.
> >
> > >  [Franklin] I'm assuming that your issue is related to Ubuntu 14.04.
> > I
> > > need  to install it eventually anyway very soon so I can give it a
> > try
> > > and  hopefully help you with your issue.
> >
> > See the other reply talking about the specific reason 14.04 fails.
> >
> >
> > > > Since you are using amsdk-07.00.00.00-config.txt config, you are
> > > > building the same exact version that was released as AMSDK 7.0.
> > That
> > > > config is not being updated to pick up any latest code.
> >
> > > [Franklin] Unless he wants something stable since has already been
> > > released
> >
> > Again, see the other reply - I got an impression by the last paragraph
> > above that the requirement was to pull in some recent fixes for
> > binutils. That won't be done in AMSDK 7.0, as it's already released
> > and closed.
> >
> >
> > > and also will be supported outside of this mailing list.
> >
> > Just a reminder - this is the Arago development mailing list, not
> > AMSDK support mailing list. I don't mind these questions, but the
> > assumption would always be that people want the latest stuff, since
> > it's a community facing list.
> 
> It seems that a question about creating a image based on released and tested
> software i.e the SDK 7.0 tags in Arago is an appropriate question for this list. If
> not this list then where?
> 
> I really just want to know where to start and the TI websites, and
> documentation provide a lot of options but very little guidance and it seems
> to very much be a moving target. Typically a good place to start is a released
> version but your comments seem to indicate that it's not so. I'm sorry if
> posted in the wrong place it seemed like this was the best list to get an
> answer specific to building source from Arago.
[Franklin] Don't mind us. You asked the question in the right place. You just got caught up in a difference in opinion discussion.

If you want to try the latest and greatest then Denys is right using the Daisy config (latest arago config) would be the best bet. Things are still in flux a bit so if you don't mind see random issues, breakage here and there then this is a good option. In general things get fixed relatively quickly. Also there gets to a point where the BSP packages (wats in meta-ti) is pretty much finalized which usually means your good to go and things are pretty much stable.

I would use the AMSDK 7 config if you want to create a release that mimics a specific AMSDK. From a support perspective outside of this mailing list, TI will support a specific SDK which includes kernel, u-boot, filesystem etc... So using that sdk config would be the right place to begin although generally from an OE perspective it has outdated components. But if you start asking questions on E2E (TI support forum) then you may hit a roadblock since the 3.14 LTS kernel or U-boot 2014.07 hasn't been released in an official TI SDK so people may not know what your talking about

> 
> Matt S.

Re: i686 binutils failing to build for SDK 7.0 build

[Denys Dmytriyenko]

On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 11:55:06AM -0700, Matt Schuckmann wrote:
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Denys Dmytriyenko [mailto:denys@ti.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 11:46 AM
> > To: Cooper Jr., Franklin
> > Cc: Matt Schuckmann; meta-arago@arago-project.org
> > Subject: Re: [meta-arago] i686 binutils failing to build for SDK 7.0
> > build
> > 
> > On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 02:24:37PM -0400, Cooper Jr., Franklin wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: meta-arago-bounces@arago-project.org [mailto:meta-arago-
> > > > bounces@arago-project.org] On Behalf Of Dmytriyenko, Denys
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 1:07 PM
> > > > To: Matt Schuckmann
> > > > Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [meta-arago] i686 binutils failing to build for SDK
> > 7.0
> > > > build
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 10:44:28AM -0700, Matt Schuckmann wrote:
> > > > > I'm trying to build a basic image using Arago, SDK 7.0 config
> > > > > (configs/amsdk/amsdk-07.00.00.00-config.txt) and binutils 2.20.1
> > > > > is failing to compile for the i686 host system.
> > > > > I'm building on a Ubuntu 14.04 32bit VM.
> > > > >
> > > > > My bitbake command is:
> > > > > MACHINE=am335x-evm;bitbake core-image-minimal
> > > > >
> > > > > The errors are:
> > > > > binutils-native/2.20.1-r9/binutils-
> > 2.20.1/bfd/doc/bfd.texinfo:326:
> > > > > unknown
> > > > command `colophon'
> > > > > binutils-native/2.20.1-r9/binutils-
> > 2.20.1/bfd/doc/bfd.texinfo:337:
> > > > > unknown
> > > > command `cygnus'
> > > > >
> > > > > It looks like this was a known problem for building binutils that
> > > > > has been fixed a long time ago and since SDK 7.0 is released code
> > > > > I would have assumed the problem was taken care for the Arago
> > > > > build so I'm a little puzzled why I'm getting this now.
> > 
> > >  [Franklin] I'm assuming that your issue is related to Ubuntu 14.04.
> > I
> > > need  to install it eventually anyway very soon so I can give it a
> > try
> > > and  hopefully help you with your issue.
> > 
> > See the other reply talking about the specific reason 14.04 fails.
> > 
> > 
> > > > Since you are using amsdk-07.00.00.00-config.txt config, you are
> > > > building the same exact version that was released as AMSDK 7.0.
> > That
> > > > config is not being updated to pick up any latest code.
> > 
> > > [Franklin] Unless he wants something stable since has already been
> > > released
> > 
> > Again, see the other reply - I got an impression by the last paragraph
> > above that the requirement was to pull in some recent fixes for
> > binutils. That won't be done in AMSDK 7.0, as it's already released and
> > closed.
> > 
> > 
> > > and also will be supported outside of this mailing list.
> > 
> > Just a reminder - this is the Arago development mailing list, not AMSDK
> > support mailing list. I don't mind these questions, but the assumption
> > would always be that people want the latest stuff, since it's a
> > community facing list.
> 
> It seems that a question about creating a image based on released and tested 
> software i.e the SDK 7.0 tags in Arago is an appropriate question for this 
> list. If not this list then where?

My above comment was addressed to Franklin - he mentioned the support outside 
of this mailing list, hence my reply.


> I really just want to know where to start and the TI websites, and 
> documentation provide a lot of options but very little guidance and it seems 
> to very much be a moving target. Typically a good place to start is a 
> released version but your comments seem to indicate that it's not so. I'm 
> sorry if posted in the wrong place it seemed like this was the best list to 
> get an answer specific to building source from Arago.

Like I said above - if you want to start with a released version, that's fine. 
From your first email it wasn't clear - it sounded like you wanted to backport 
some fixes to binutils from newer versions back to AMSDK 7.0, to which I 
replied accordingly, suggesting to use the latest code base instead, due to 
the reasons outlined above. If you are not comfortable with latest code base, 
that's fine too.

So, questions about creating an image of your own does fall into the subject 
of this mailing list.

-- 
Denys

Re: i686 binutils failing to build for SDK 7.0 build

[Denys Dmytriyenko]

On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 03:06:03PM -0400, Cooper Jr., Franklin wrote:
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dmytriyenko, Denys
> > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 1:46 PM
> > To: Cooper Jr., Franklin
> > Cc: Matt Schuckmann; meta-arago@arago-project.org
> > Subject: Re: [meta-arago] i686 binutils failing to build for SDK 7.0 build
> > 
> > On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 02:24:37PM -0400, Cooper Jr., Franklin wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: meta-arago-bounces@arago-project.org [mailto:meta-arago-
> > > > bounces@arago-project.org] On Behalf Of Dmytriyenko, Denys
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 1:07 PM
> > > > To: Matt Schuckmann
> > > > Cc: meta-arago@arago-project.org
> > > > Subject: Re: [meta-arago] i686 binutils failing to build for SDK 7.0
> > > > build
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 10:44:28AM -0700, Matt Schuckmann wrote:
> > > > > I'm trying to build a basic image using Arago, SDK 7.0 config
> > > > > (configs/amsdk/amsdk-07.00.00.00-config.txt) and binutils 2.20.1
> > > > > is failing to compile for the i686 host system.
> > > > > I'm building on a Ubuntu 14.04 32bit VM.
> > > > >
> > > > > My bitbake command is:
> > > > > MACHINE=am335x-evm;bitbake core-image-minimal
> > > > >
> > > > > The errors are:
> > > > > binutils-native/2.20.1-r9/binutils-2.20.1/bfd/doc/bfd.texinfo:326:
> > > > > unknown
> > > > command `colophon'
> > > > > binutils-native/2.20.1-r9/binutils-2.20.1/bfd/doc/bfd.texinfo:337:
> > > > > unknown
> > > > command `cygnus'
> > > > >
> > > > > It looks like this was a known problem for building binutils that
> > > > > has been fixed a long time ago and since SDK 7.0 is released code
> > > > > I would have assumed the problem was taken care for the Arago
> > > > > build so I'm a little puzzled why I'm getting this now.
> > 
> > >  [Franklin] I'm assuming that your issue is related to Ubuntu 14.04. I
> > > need  to install it eventually anyway very soon so I can give it a try
> > > and  hopefully help you with your issue.
> > 
> > See the other reply talking about the specific reason 14.04 fails.

> [Franklin] He replied while I was responding.. No confusion after I saw his 
> response.
> > 
> > 
> > > > Since you are using amsdk-07.00.00.00-config.txt config, you are
> > > > building the same exact version that was released as AMSDK 7.0. That
> > > > config is not being updated to pick up any latest code.
> > 
> > > [Franklin] Unless he wants something stable since has already been
> > > released
> > 
> > Again, see the other reply - I got an impression by the last paragraph above
> > that the requirement was to pull in some recent fixes for binutils. That won't
> > be done in AMSDK 7.0, as it's already released and closed.

> [Franklin] Similar to your dora patches you submitted recently no reason 
> we/I couldn't do the same.

Would that be a point release for AMSDK? Say, AMSDK 7.1?
I don't mind that at all, i.e. backporting fixes to older branches/releases, I 
was just pointing to the fact that amsdk-07.00.00.00-config.txt is a locked 
down configuration and is not moving and not pulling anything new. That's all.


> > > and also will be supported outside of this mailing list.
> > 
> > Just a reminder - this is the Arago development mailing list, not AMSDK
> > support mailing list. I don't mind these questions, but the assumption would
> > always be that people want the latest stuff, since it's a community facing list.

> [Franklin] I never called it an AMSDK support list but your leaving 
> maintenance branches up for a reason.

Like I said above - I don't mind backports and fixes for older branches and 
releases. That is a valid development effort. But that is not the main focus 
for me and this mailing list. So, when it's not clear what the requirements 
are, I assume the latest. That's exactly what I said above, which does not 
preclude using this mailing list to discuss development on older base...


> > > > If you want to try latest code base, you better off trying
> > > > arago-daisy-config.txt That would pull in everything latest from
> > > > corresponding Daisy branches, which is the latest stable release.
> > 
> > > [Franklin] Will eventually become stable.
> > 
> > It's a point of view - Daisy is already a stable release of the Yocto Project.
> > Arago currently is based on Daisy, but it hasn't been relesed yet.

> [Franklin] Meta-arago and meta-ti has been relatively unstable recently with 
> other pieces of software under development with varying degrees of 
> stability. So outside those two layers things maybe stable but there is a 
> bit of turbulence while we work through a release.

Indeed, things are being stabilized now in meta-ti and meta-arago for the 
upcoming internal release soon, which will be used as a base for the next 
AMSDK.


> I would just prefer giving people (myself) a chance to help others out 
> especially if there are using an SDK specific config.

Historically, people coming to this mailing list (as well as meta-ti or other 
community lists) are looking for integrating all the latest components and 
utilizing latest code base, while developing their product - they don't mind 
a bit of instability. I'm not used to support questions about past releases on 
this list. Usually those go to E2E forums and such. That's all. So, once it's 
clearly identified to be such a question, I'm fine leaving it to you to take 
it.

-- 
Denys

Re: i686 binutils failing to build for SDK 7.0 build

[Arnaud Janvier]

On Tue, Aug 05, 2014 at 10:44:28AM -0700, Matt Schuckmann wrote:
> I'm trying to build a basic image using Arago, SDK 7.0 config
> (configs/amsdk/amsdk-07.00.00.00-config.txt) and binutils 2.20.1 is
> failing to compile for the i686 host system. I'm building on a Ubuntu
> 14.04 32bit VM.
>
> My bitbake command is: MACHINE=am335x-evm;bitbake core-image-minimal
>
> The errors are:
> binutils-native/2.20.1-r9/binutils-2.20.1/bfd/doc/bfd.texinfo:326:
> unknown command `colophon'
> binutils-native/2.20.1-r9/binutils-2.20.1/bfd/doc/bfd.texinfo:337:
> unknown command `cygnus'
>
> It looks like this was a known problem for building binutils that has
> been fixed a long time ago and since SDK 7.0 is released code I would
> have assumed the problem was taken care for the Arago build so I'm a
> little puzzled why I'm getting this now.
>
> Any help would be appreciated.  Thanks, Matt S.
>

Hello Matt,

I have had the same issue with Dylan and have a correction proposal.
I will send the patch to the list right after. Could you apply it and
give us your feedback?

Thanks.

Best regards,
Arnaud Janvier