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* AT91 slow clock mode regression/fixes, improvement proposal
@ 2014-12-18 20:39 Sylvain Rochet
  2014-12-18 21:23 ` Sylvain Rochet
  2014-12-19  2:50 ` Yang, Wenyou
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Sylvain Rochet @ 2014-12-18 20:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: linux-arm-kernel

Hello Wenyou,

You worked recently on AT91 slow clock mode in the linux4sam/linux-at91 
master branch, however I am seeing regressions on a AT91SAM9G35-EK board 
concerning the following commit-id:

e0c8ba9b0ec3154e87da747098ee56e96ca3cee6
  pm: at91: pm_slowclock: move disable/enable PLLB out of the route

cc4dc9885103af3b3262f7ac2b6aa887df1618b3
  pm: at91: pm_slowclock: improvement to disable the UTMI PLL



About cc4dc9885103af3b3262f7ac2b6aa887df1618b3:

The assembly look wrong for me, it seems you can't have two following 
labels with the same identifier, so:

/* Turn on UTMI PLL */
cmp flag, #1
bne 1f
  (...)
1:
(...)
1:
wait_pllblock

Is actually jumping to wait_pllblock before enabling PLLB instead of 
skipping UTMI PLL. Unfortunately the compiler does not warn about that.



About e0c8ba9b0ec3154e87da747098ee56e96ca3cee6:

I have mixed feeling about moving the PLL enabling from slow clock mode 
to master clock mode. Starting PLL is almost all about waiting, waiting, 
and waiting until they are stable enough to be used, the few CPU 
instructions required to switch ON the PLL is nothing compared to the 
wait time.

To be sure I benchmarked the required time to set up the UTMI PLL (using 
a GPIO + scope) on my AT91SAM9G35-CM module in both slow clock and 
master clock mode, I found out the required time to start up the PLL is, 
as expected, -exactly- the same.

But, previously, we were waiting with the CPU in slow clock mode, when 
the CPU power consumption is very very low, now we are waiting when the 
CPU is in full speed, which is worse.

Or, I am missing something ?


Anyway, if we wait for the PLL in master clock mode we *MUST* increase 
the PLL timeout a lot, with the current code I guess we are leaving the 
resume code when the PLL are not yet ready at all since we are only 
waiting out of a 1000 iteration loop on master clock.

(Note that I didn't get fooled by that and I disabled the timeout when I 
checked the UPLL start time.)



Furthermore, it looks like MCKRDY_TIMEOUT set to 1000 is not enough, my board 
crashes in about 1 wake up to 10 with this value and works perfectly 
fine with 4000.


I have attached a patch that do the following:

 * Increase MCKRDY_TIMEOUT from 1000 to 4000 so my board don't crash.
 * Fix the assembly on the "Turn on UTMI PLL" part
 * Increase timeouts for PLLB and UPLL


However I still disagree with this patch (this is why I didn't do a pull 
request ;-), I am proposing doing a patch set that:

 * Increase MCKRDY_TIMEOUT from 1000 to 4000 so my board don't crash, I 
   would be happy to have a feed back on this with your boards ;-)
 * Fix the assembly on the "Turn on UTMI PLL" part
 * Move back PLLB and UPLL to slow clock mode to save power

What do you think ?


I have also mixed feeling about those timeouts, is it really useful in 
the wild ?  We don't event catch the timeout event to do something else 
if it happens, we still switch to the master clock whatever happened or 
even worse we continue even if AT91_PMC_MCKRDY isn't set? which is why I 
am having hard fault. In my opinion this is the watchdog job to handle 
those cases cleanly, there is nothing much we can do if something fail 
other than waiting a watchdog reset.

(Yeah, I know the watchdog is hard to use with sleep mode on AT91 chip, 
I have a work in progress about using the RTC to wake up before the 
watchdog expire to clear the watchdog and go back to sleep as fast as 
possible without resuming all the devices. It works, but I am still not 
happy at all with what I did for now.)

Therefore I am also proposing to remove all the timeout.


By the way, I don't know for other AT91 boards (or without DT, or 
something else), but the UTMI PLL suspend/resume seem unnecessary for 
me, the USB driver is already disabling the USB PLL when suspending, 
could you confirm ?



Regards,
Sylvain
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2014-12-18 20:39 AT91 slow clock mode regression/fixes, improvement proposal Sylvain Rochet
2014-12-18 21:23 ` Sylvain Rochet
2014-12-19  2:50 ` Yang, Wenyou
2014-12-19 15:04   ` [PATCH] pm: at91: pm_slowclock: improve reliability of suspend/resume Sylvain Rochet
2014-12-19 15:26   ` AT91 slow clock mode regression/fixes, improvement proposal Sylvain Rochet
2014-12-22  8:32     ` Yang, Wenyou
2014-12-22 10:03       ` Sylvain Rochet
2015-01-05  3:32       ` Yang, Wenyou
2015-01-06 14:15         ` [PATCH] pm: at91: pm_slowclock: improve reliability of suspend/resume Sylvain Rochet
2015-01-06 14:16         ` Sylvain Rochet
2015-01-06 14:25         ` AT91 slow clock mode regression/fixes, improvement proposal Sylvain Rochet
2015-01-07  1:17           ` Yang, Wenyou
2015-01-07  9:14           ` Alexandre Belloni

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