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From: Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@oracle.com>
To: Andrew Cooper <andrew.cooper3@citrix.com>
Cc: Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>, Michal Marek <mmarek@suse.cz>,
	Jason Douglas <jdouglas@suse.com>,
	stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com, Takashi Iwai <tiwai@suse.de>,
	mcgrof@suse.com, "Luis R. Rodriguez" <mcgrof@do-not-panic.com>,
	Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <hmh@debian.org>,
	david.vrabel@citrix.com, Jan Beulich <JBeulich@suse.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@suse.de>, Olaf Hering <ohering@suse.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] misc/xenmicrocode: Upload /lib/firmware/<some blob> to the hypervisor
Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2015 15:12:46 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150129201245.GD22967@konrad-lan.dumpdata.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <54CA7D2F.4020309@citrix.com>

On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 06:34:23PM +0000, Andrew Cooper wrote:
> <snip>
> Getting this conversation back on topic.
> 
> The current state of play in Xen is this:
> 
> * Boot time microcode loading exists (by scanning uncompressed cpio
> multiboot modules) and should be safe to use.

Please note that it does require passing in 'ucode=scan' on the Xen
command line and does not do it automatically. It would be nice
if that was automatic..
> 
> * The facility for runtime microcode loading exists (via privileged
> hypercall), but is unsafe to use at present, especially if virtual
> machines are running.  There are several steps which can be taken to
> make it safer to use.
> 
> 
> There is a plausible usecase for runtime microcode loading for people
> who wish to take that risk, and as such, xenmicrocode is useful utility
> to have, but it should probably not be available by default until we
> believe the hypervisor side of the interface avoids the known potholes.

Aren't these issues the same if we had an runtime microcode
implementation (I am referring to the xen-microcode driver that
Jeremy wrote once and some distros have in their kernel). The loading
of microcode is done the same was as baremetal via 'rescan' interface.
> 
> ~Andrew
> 
> _______________________________________________
> Xen-devel mailing list
> Xen-devel@lists.xen.org
> http://lists.xen.org/xen-devel

  reply	other threads:[~2015-01-29 20:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-01-27 20:11 [PATCH] misc/xenmicrocode: Upload /lib/firmware/<some blob> to the hypervisor Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-01-27 21:25 ` Boris Ostrovsky
2015-01-27 21:54   ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-01-27 22:26 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-01-27 23:17   ` Borislav Petkov
2015-01-28  0:10     ` Andrew Cooper
2015-01-28  8:39       ` Borislav Petkov
2015-01-29  3:21         ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-01-29 19:15           ` Borislav Petkov
2015-01-30  1:13             ` Luis R. Rodriguez
2015-01-29 11:36         ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2015-01-29 12:17           ` Borislav Petkov
2015-01-29 17:01             ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2015-01-29 17:30               ` Borislav Petkov
2015-01-29 18:34                 ` Andrew Cooper
2015-01-29 20:12                   ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk [this message]
2015-01-30  0:29                     ` Andrew Cooper
2015-01-30 14:11                       ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk

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