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From: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
To: Anna Schumaker <Anna.Schumaker@netapp.com>
Cc: linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/3] NFSD: Add support for encoding multiple segments
Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2015 14:55:45 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150318185545.GF8818@fieldses.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5509C0FD.70309@Netapp.com>

On Wed, Mar 18, 2015 at 02:16:29PM -0400, Anna Schumaker wrote:
> On 03/17/2015 05:36 PM, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 04:07:38PM -0400, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> >> On Tue, Mar 17, 2015 at 03:56:33PM -0400, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> >>> On Mon, Mar 16, 2015 at 05:18:08PM -0400, Anna Schumaker wrote:
> >>>> This patch implements sending an array of segments back to the client.
> >>>> Clients should be prepared to handle multiple segment reads to make this
> >>>> useful.  We try to splice the first data segment into the XDR result,
> >>>> and remaining segments are encoded directly.
> >>>
> >>> I'm still interested in what would happen if we started with an
> >>> implementation like:
> >>>
> >>> 	- if the entire requested range falls within a hole, return that
> >>> 	  single hole.
> >>> 	- otherwise, just treat the thing as one big data segment.
> >>>
> >>> That would provide a benefit in the case there are large-ish holes
> >>> with minimal impact otherwise.
> >>>
> >>> (Though patches for full support are still useful even if only for
> >>> client-testing purposes.)
> >>
> >> Also, looks like
> >>
> >> 	xvs_io -c "fiemap -v" <file>
> >>
> >> will give hole sizes for a given <file>.  (Thanks, esandeen.)  Running
> >> that on a few of my test vm images shows a fair number of large
> >> (hundreds of megs) files, which suggests identifying only >=rwsize holes
> >> might still be useful.
> > 
> > Just for fun.... I wrote the following test program and ran it on my
> > collection of testing vm's.  Some looked like this:
> > 
> > 	f21-1.qcow2
> > 	144784 -rw-------. 1 qemu qemu 8591507456 Mar 16 10:13 f21-1.qcow2
> > 	total hole bytes:      8443252736 (98%)
> > 	in aligned 1MB chunks: 8428453888 (98%)
> > 
> > So, basically, read_plus would save transferring most of the data even
> > when only handling 1MB holes.
> > 
> > But some looked like this:
> > 
> > 	501524 -rw-------. 1 qemu qemu 8589934592 May 20  2014 rhel6-1-1.img
> > 	total hole bytes:      8077516800 (94%)
> > 	in aligned 1MB chunks: 0 (0%)
> > 
> > So the READ_PLUS that caught every hole might save a lot, the one that
> > only caught 1MB holes wouldn't help at all.
> > 
> > And there were lots of examples in between those two extremes.
> 
> I tested with three different 512 MB files:  100% data, 100% hole, and alternating every megabyte.  The results were surprising:
> 
>       |  v4.1  |  v4.2
> -----------------------
> data  | 0.685s |  0.714s
> hole  | 0.485s | 15.547s
> mixed |	1.283s |  0.448
> 
> >From what I can tell, the 100% hole case takes so long because of the
> >SEEK_DATA call in nfsd4_encode_read_plus_hole().  I took this out to
> >trick the function into thinking that the entire file was already a
> >hole, and runtime dropped to the levels of v4.1 and v4.2.

Wait, that 15s is due to just one SEEK_DATA?

> I wonder
> >if this is filesystem dependent?  My server is exporting ext4.

Sounds like just a bug.  I've been doing lots of lseek(.,.,SEEK_DATA) on
both ext4 and xfs without seeing anything that weird.

I believe it does return -ENXIO in the case SEEK_DATA is called at an
offset beyond which there's no more data.  At least that's what I saw in
userspace.  So maybe your code just isn't handling that case correctly?

--b.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-18 18:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-16 21:18 [PATCH v3 0/3] NFSD: Add READ_PLUS support Anna Schumaker
2015-03-16 21:18 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] NFSD: nfsd4_encode_read{v}() should encode eof and maxcount Anna Schumaker
2015-03-16 21:18 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] NFSD: Add basic READ_PLUS support Anna Schumaker
2015-03-16 21:18 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] NFSD: Add support for encoding multiple segments Anna Schumaker
2015-03-17 19:56   ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-03-17 20:07     ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-03-17 21:36       ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-03-18 18:16         ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-18 18:55           ` J. Bruce Fields [this message]
2015-03-18 20:39             ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-18 20:55               ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-03-18 21:03                 ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-18 21:11                   ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                     ` <OFB111A6D8.016B8BD5-ON88257E0D.001D174D-88257E0D.005268D6@us.ibm.com>
2015-03-19 15:36                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-03-19 16:28                         ` Marc Eshel
2015-03-20 15:17                           ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-03-20 15:17                             ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-03-20 16:23                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-03-20 16:23                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-03-20 18:26                               ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-03-20 18:26                                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-03-24 12:43                                 ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-24 12:43                                   ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-24 17:49                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-03-24 17:49                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-03-25 17:15                                     ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-25 17:15                                       ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-26 15:21                                     ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-26 15:21                                       ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-26 15:32                                       ` Trond Myklebust
2015-03-26 15:32                                         ` Trond Myklebust
2015-03-26 15:36                                         ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-26 15:36                                           ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-26 15:38                                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-03-26 15:38                                           ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-03-26 15:47                                           ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-26 15:47                                             ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-26 16:06                                             ` Trond Myklebust
2015-03-26 16:06                                               ` Trond Myklebust
2015-03-26 16:11                                               ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-26 16:11                                                 ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-26 16:13                                                 ` Trond Myklebust
2015-03-26 16:13                                                   ` Trond Myklebust
2015-03-26 16:14                                                   ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-26 16:14                                                     ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-27 19:04                                                   ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-27 19:04                                                     ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-27 20:22                                                     ` Trond Myklebust
2015-03-27 20:22                                                       ` Trond Myklebust
2015-03-27 20:46                                                       ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-27 20:46                                                         ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-27 20:54                                                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-03-27 20:54                                                           ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-03-27 20:55                                                           ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-27 20:55                                                             ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-27 21:08                                                             ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-03-27 21:08                                                               ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-04-15 19:32                                                               ` Anna Schumaker
2015-04-15 19:32                                                                 ` Anna Schumaker
2015-04-15 19:56                                                                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-04-15 19:56                                                                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-04-15 20:00                                                                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-04-15 20:00                                                                     ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-04-15 22:50                                                                     ` Dave Chinner
2015-04-15 22:50                                                                       ` Dave Chinner
2015-04-17 22:07                                                                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-04-17 22:07                                                                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-04-15 22:57                                                                 ` Dave Chinner
2015-04-15 22:57                                                                   ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-26 16:11                                             ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-03-26 16:11                                               ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-03-26 16:18                                               ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-26 16:18                                                 ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-30 14:06                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-03-30 14:06                                           ` Christoph Hellwig

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