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From: Anna Schumaker <Anna.Schumaker@netapp.com>
To: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
Cc: "linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com>,
	Marc Eshel <eshel@us.ibm.com>,
	xfs@oss.sgi.com, Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/3] NFSD: Add support for encoding multiple segments
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 12:18:47 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55143167.5030605@Netapp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150326161154.GC30482@fieldses.org>

On 03/26/2015 12:11 PM, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 11:47:03AM -0400, Anna Schumaker wrote:
>> On 03/26/2015 11:38 AM, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 11:32:25AM -0400, Trond Myklebust wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Anna Schumaker
>>>> <Anna.Schumaker@netapp.com> wrote:
>>>>> Here are my updated numbers!  I tested with files 5G in size: one 100% data, one 100% hole, and one alternating between hole and data every 4K.  I collected data for both v4.1 and v4.2 with and without the READ_PLUS patches:
>>>>>
>>>>> ##########################
>>>>> #                        #
>>>>> #   Without READ_PLUS    #
>>>>> #                        #
>>>>> ##########################
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> NFS v4.1:
>>>>>                             Trial
>>>>> |---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|
>>>>> |         |    1    |    2    |    3    |    4    |    5    | Average |
>>>>> |---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|
>>>>> |    Data |  8.723s |  7.243s |  8.252s |  6.997s |  6.980s |  7.639s |
>>>>> |    Hole |  5.271s |  5.224s |  5.060s |  4.897s |  5.321s |  5.155s |
>>>>> |   Mixed |  8.050s | 10.057s |  7.919s |  8.060s |  9.557s |  8.729s |
>>>>> |---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> NFS v4.2:
>>>>>                             Trial
>>>>> |---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|
>>>>> |         |    1    |    2    |    3    |    4    |    5    | Average |
>>>>> |---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|
>>>>> |    Data |  6.707s |  7.070s |  6.722s |  6.761s |  6.810s |  6.814s |
>>>>> |    Hole |  5.152s |  5.149s |  5.213s |  5.206s |  5.312s |  5.206s |
>>>>> |   Mixed |  7.979s |  7.985s |  8.177s |  7.772s |  8.280s |  8.039s |
>>>>> |---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> #######################
>>>>> #                     #
>>>>> #   With READ_PLUS    #
>>>>> #                     #
>>>>> #######################
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> NFS v4.1:
>>>>>                             Trial
>>>>> |---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|
>>>>> |         |    1    |    2    |    3    |    4    |    5    | Average |
>>>>> |---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|
>>>>> |    Data |  9.082s |  7.008s |  7.116s |  6.771s |  7.902s |  7.576s |
>>>>> |    Hole |  5.333s |  5.358s |  5.380s |  5.161s |  5.282s |  5.303s |
>>>>> |   Mixed |  8.189s |  8.308s |  9.540s |  7.937s |  8.420s |  8.479s |
>>>>> |---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> NFS v4.2:
>>>>>                             Trial
>>>>> |---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|
>>>>> |         |    1    |    2    |    3    |    4    |    5    | Average |
>>>>> |---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|
>>>>> |    Data |  7.033s |  6.829s |  7.025s |  6.873s |  7.134s |  6.979s |
>>>>> |    Hole |  1.794s |  1.800s |  1.905s |  1.811s |  1.725s |  1.807s |
>>>>> |   Mixed |  7.590s |  8.777s |  9.423s | 10.366s |  8.024s |  8.836s |
>>>>> |---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So there is a clear win in the 100% hole case here, but otherwise the
>>>> statistical fluctuations are dominating the numbers. Can you get us a
>>>> little more stats and then perhaps run the results through nfsometer?
>>>
>>> Also, could you describe the setup (are these still kvm's), and how
>>> you're clearing the cache between runs?
>>
>> These are still KVMs and my server is exporting an xfs filesystem.  I clear caches by running "echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches" on the server before every read, and I remount my client after reading each set of three files once.
> 
> What sort of device is the exported xfs filesystem on?  (Can't there
> be a second level of caching on the guest, depending on how it's set
> up?)

My host is a macbook pro running Archlinux, and I have all my virtio disks set to "cache mode = none".  Let me know if you were asking something different!


> 
> Can we get results on bare metal?  (The kvm test might be a good
> worst-case for read_plus, as I'd expect bandwidth to be relatively high
> compared to the cost of the extra memcpy's or seek calls.  But it also
> seems more complicated.)

I do all of my testing on kvm these days!  I'll see how difficult it is to setup refind with a custom kernel to test between my laptop and my desktop (or I could run the test between my raspberry pis!)

Anna

> 
> --b.
> 

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From: Anna Schumaker <Anna.Schumaker@netapp.com>
To: "J. Bruce Fields" <bfields@fieldses.org>
Cc: Trond Myklebust <trond.myklebust@primarydata.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	Marc Eshel <eshel@us.ibm.com>,
	"linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org" <linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-nfs-owner@vger.kernel.org>, <xfs@oss.sgi.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 3/3] NFSD: Add support for encoding multiple segments
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 12:18:47 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <55143167.5030605@Netapp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150326161154.GC30482@fieldses.org>

On 03/26/2015 12:11 PM, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 11:47:03AM -0400, Anna Schumaker wrote:
>> On 03/26/2015 11:38 AM, J. Bruce Fields wrote:
>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 11:32:25AM -0400, Trond Myklebust wrote:
>>>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 11:21 AM, Anna Schumaker
>>>> <Anna.Schumaker@netapp.com> wrote:
>>>>> Here are my updated numbers!  I tested with files 5G in size: one 100% data, one 100% hole, and one alternating between hole and data every 4K.  I collected data for both v4.1 and v4.2 with and without the READ_PLUS patches:
>>>>>
>>>>> ##########################
>>>>> #                        #
>>>>> #   Without READ_PLUS    #
>>>>> #                        #
>>>>> ##########################
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> NFS v4.1:
>>>>>                             Trial
>>>>> |---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|
>>>>> |         |    1    |    2    |    3    |    4    |    5    | Average |
>>>>> |---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|
>>>>> |    Data |  8.723s |  7.243s |  8.252s |  6.997s |  6.980s |  7.639s |
>>>>> |    Hole |  5.271s |  5.224s |  5.060s |  4.897s |  5.321s |  5.155s |
>>>>> |   Mixed |  8.050s | 10.057s |  7.919s |  8.060s |  9.557s |  8.729s |
>>>>> |---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> NFS v4.2:
>>>>>                             Trial
>>>>> |---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|
>>>>> |         |    1    |    2    |    3    |    4    |    5    | Average |
>>>>> |---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|
>>>>> |    Data |  6.707s |  7.070s |  6.722s |  6.761s |  6.810s |  6.814s |
>>>>> |    Hole |  5.152s |  5.149s |  5.213s |  5.206s |  5.312s |  5.206s |
>>>>> |   Mixed |  7.979s |  7.985s |  8.177s |  7.772s |  8.280s |  8.039s |
>>>>> |---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> #######################
>>>>> #                     #
>>>>> #   With READ_PLUS    #
>>>>> #                     #
>>>>> #######################
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> NFS v4.1:
>>>>>                             Trial
>>>>> |---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|
>>>>> |         |    1    |    2    |    3    |    4    |    5    | Average |
>>>>> |---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|
>>>>> |    Data |  9.082s |  7.008s |  7.116s |  6.771s |  7.902s |  7.576s |
>>>>> |    Hole |  5.333s |  5.358s |  5.380s |  5.161s |  5.282s |  5.303s |
>>>>> |   Mixed |  8.189s |  8.308s |  9.540s |  7.937s |  8.420s |  8.479s |
>>>>> |---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> NFS v4.2:
>>>>>                             Trial
>>>>> |---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|
>>>>> |         |    1    |    2    |    3    |    4    |    5    | Average |
>>>>> |---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|
>>>>> |    Data |  7.033s |  6.829s |  7.025s |  6.873s |  7.134s |  6.979s |
>>>>> |    Hole |  1.794s |  1.800s |  1.905s |  1.811s |  1.725s |  1.807s |
>>>>> |   Mixed |  7.590s |  8.777s |  9.423s | 10.366s |  8.024s |  8.836s |
>>>>> |---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|---------|
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> So there is a clear win in the 100% hole case here, but otherwise the
>>>> statistical fluctuations are dominating the numbers. Can you get us a
>>>> little more stats and then perhaps run the results through nfsometer?
>>>
>>> Also, could you describe the setup (are these still kvm's), and how
>>> you're clearing the cache between runs?
>>
>> These are still KVMs and my server is exporting an xfs filesystem.  I clear caches by running "echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches" on the server before every read, and I remount my client after reading each set of three files once.
> 
> What sort of device is the exported xfs filesystem on?  (Can't there
> be a second level of caching on the guest, depending on how it's set
> up?)

My host is a macbook pro running Archlinux, and I have all my virtio disks set to "cache mode = none".  Let me know if you were asking something different!


> 
> Can we get results on bare metal?  (The kvm test might be a good
> worst-case for read_plus, as I'd expect bandwidth to be relatively high
> compared to the cost of the extra memcpy's or seek calls.  But it also
> seems more complicated.)

I do all of my testing on kvm these days!  I'll see how difficult it is to setup refind with a custom kernel to test between my laptop and my desktop (or I could run the test between my raspberry pis!)

Anna

> 
> --b.
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-26 16:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-16 21:18 [PATCH v3 0/3] NFSD: Add READ_PLUS support Anna Schumaker
2015-03-16 21:18 ` [PATCH v3 1/3] NFSD: nfsd4_encode_read{v}() should encode eof and maxcount Anna Schumaker
2015-03-16 21:18 ` [PATCH v3 2/3] NFSD: Add basic READ_PLUS support Anna Schumaker
2015-03-16 21:18 ` [PATCH v3 3/3] NFSD: Add support for encoding multiple segments Anna Schumaker
2015-03-17 19:56   ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-03-17 20:07     ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-03-17 21:36       ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-03-18 18:16         ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-18 18:55           ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-03-18 20:39             ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-18 20:55               ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-03-18 21:03                 ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-18 21:11                   ` J. Bruce Fields
     [not found]                     ` <OFB111A6D8.016B8BD5-ON88257E0D.001D174D-88257E0D.005268D6@us.ibm.com>
2015-03-19 15:36                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-03-19 16:28                         ` Marc Eshel
2015-03-20 15:17                           ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-03-20 15:17                             ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-03-20 16:23                             ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-03-20 16:23                               ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-03-20 18:26                               ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-03-20 18:26                                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-03-24 12:43                                 ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-24 12:43                                   ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-24 17:49                                   ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-03-24 17:49                                     ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-03-25 17:15                                     ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-25 17:15                                       ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-26 15:21                                     ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-26 15:21                                       ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-26 15:32                                       ` Trond Myklebust
2015-03-26 15:32                                         ` Trond Myklebust
2015-03-26 15:36                                         ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-26 15:36                                           ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-26 15:38                                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-03-26 15:38                                           ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-03-26 15:47                                           ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-26 15:47                                             ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-26 16:06                                             ` Trond Myklebust
2015-03-26 16:06                                               ` Trond Myklebust
2015-03-26 16:11                                               ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-26 16:11                                                 ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-26 16:13                                                 ` Trond Myklebust
2015-03-26 16:13                                                   ` Trond Myklebust
2015-03-26 16:14                                                   ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-26 16:14                                                     ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-27 19:04                                                   ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-27 19:04                                                     ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-27 20:22                                                     ` Trond Myklebust
2015-03-27 20:22                                                       ` Trond Myklebust
2015-03-27 20:46                                                       ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-27 20:46                                                         ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-27 20:54                                                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-03-27 20:54                                                           ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-03-27 20:55                                                           ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-27 20:55                                                             ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-27 21:08                                                             ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-03-27 21:08                                                               ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-04-15 19:32                                                               ` Anna Schumaker
2015-04-15 19:32                                                                 ` Anna Schumaker
2015-04-15 19:56                                                                 ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-04-15 19:56                                                                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-04-15 20:00                                                                   ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-04-15 20:00                                                                     ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-04-15 22:50                                                                     ` Dave Chinner
2015-04-15 22:50                                                                       ` Dave Chinner
2015-04-17 22:07                                                                       ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-04-17 22:07                                                                         ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-04-15 22:57                                                                 ` Dave Chinner
2015-04-15 22:57                                                                   ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-26 16:11                                             ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-03-26 16:11                                               ` J. Bruce Fields
2015-03-26 16:18                                               ` Anna Schumaker [this message]
2015-03-26 16:18                                                 ` Anna Schumaker
2015-03-30 14:06                                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-03-30 14:06                                           ` Christoph Hellwig

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