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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
	Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	"Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
Subject: Re: [patch 03/12] mm: oom_kill: switch test-and-clear of known TIF_MEMDIE to clear
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 07:05:32 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150326110532.GB18560@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1503252025230.16714@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

Hi David,

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 08:31:49PM -0700, David Rientjes wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Mar 2015, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> 
> > exit_oom_victim() already knows that TIF_MEMDIE is set, and nobody
> > else can clear it concurrently.  Use clear_thread_flag() directly.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
> 
> For the oom killer, that's true because of task_lock(): we always only set 
> TIF_MEMDIE when there is a valid p->mm and it's cleared in the exit path 
> after the unlock, acting as a barrier, when p->mm is set to NULL so it's 
> no longer a valid victim.  So that part is fine.
> 
> The problem is the android low memory killer that does 
> mark_tsk_oom_victim() without the protection of task_lock(), it's just rcu 
> protected so the reference to the task itself is guaranteed to still be 
> valid.

But this is about *setting* it without a lock.  My point was that once
TIF_MEMDIE is actually set, the task owns it and nobody else can clear
it for them, so it's safe to test and clear non-atomically from the
task's own context.  Am I missing something?

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
	Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>,
	Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>
Subject: Re: [patch 03/12] mm: oom_kill: switch test-and-clear of known TIF_MEMDIE to clear
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2015 07:05:32 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150326110532.GB18560@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.10.1503252025230.16714@chino.kir.corp.google.com>

Hi David,

On Wed, Mar 25, 2015 at 08:31:49PM -0700, David Rientjes wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Mar 2015, Johannes Weiner wrote:
> 
> > exit_oom_victim() already knows that TIF_MEMDIE is set, and nobody
> > else can clear it concurrently.  Use clear_thread_flag() directly.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
> 
> For the oom killer, that's true because of task_lock(): we always only set 
> TIF_MEMDIE when there is a valid p->mm and it's cleared in the exit path 
> after the unlock, acting as a barrier, when p->mm is set to NULL so it's 
> no longer a valid victim.  So that part is fine.
> 
> The problem is the android low memory killer that does 
> mark_tsk_oom_victim() without the protection of task_lock(), it's just rcu 
> protected so the reference to the task itself is guaranteed to still be 
> valid.

But this is about *setting* it without a lock.  My point was that once
TIF_MEMDIE is actually set, the task owns it and nobody else can clear
it for them, so it's safe to test and clear non-atomically from the
task's own context.  Am I missing something?

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-03-26 11:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 138+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-25  6:17 [patch 00/12] mm: page_alloc: improve OOM mechanism and policy Johannes Weiner
2015-03-25  6:17 ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-25  6:17 ` [patch 01/12] mm: oom_kill: remove unnecessary locking in oom_enable() Johannes Weiner
2015-03-25  6:17   ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-26  0:51   ` David Rientjes
2015-03-26  0:51     ` David Rientjes
2015-03-26 11:51     ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-26 11:51       ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-26 13:18       ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-26 13:18         ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-26 19:30         ` David Rientjes
2015-03-26 19:30           ` David Rientjes
2015-03-26 11:43   ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-26 11:43     ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-26 20:05   ` David Rientjes
2015-03-26 20:05     ` David Rientjes
2015-03-25  6:17 ` [patch 02/12] mm: oom_kill: clean up victim marking and exiting interfaces Johannes Weiner
2015-03-25  6:17   ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-26  3:34   ` David Rientjes
2015-03-26  3:34     ` David Rientjes
2015-03-26 11:54   ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-26 11:54     ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-25  6:17 ` [patch 03/12] mm: oom_kill: switch test-and-clear of known TIF_MEMDIE to clear Johannes Weiner
2015-03-25  6:17   ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-26  3:31   ` David Rientjes
2015-03-26  3:31     ` David Rientjes
2015-03-26 11:05     ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2015-03-26 11:05       ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-26 19:50       ` David Rientjes
2015-03-26 19:50         ` David Rientjes
2015-03-30 14:48         ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-30 14:48           ` Michal Hocko
2015-04-02 23:01         ` [patch] android, lmk: avoid setting TIF_MEMDIE if process has already exited David Rientjes
2015-04-02 23:01           ` David Rientjes
2015-04-28 22:50           ` [patch resend] " David Rientjes
2015-04-28 22:50             ` David Rientjes
2015-03-26 11:57   ` [patch 03/12] mm: oom_kill: switch test-and-clear of known TIF_MEMDIE to clear Michal Hocko
2015-03-26 11:57     ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-25  6:17 ` [patch 04/12] mm: oom_kill: remove unnecessary locking in exit_oom_victim() Johannes Weiner
2015-03-25  6:17   ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-26 12:53   ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-26 12:53     ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-26 13:01     ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-26 13:01       ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-26 15:10       ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-26 15:10         ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-26 15:04     ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-26 15:04       ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-25  6:17 ` [patch 05/12] mm: oom_kill: generalize OOM progress waitqueue Johannes Weiner
2015-03-25  6:17   ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-26 13:03   ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-26 13:03     ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-25  6:17 ` [patch 06/12] mm: oom_kill: simplify OOM killer locking Johannes Weiner
2015-03-25  6:17   ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-26 13:31   ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-26 13:31     ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-26 15:17     ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-26 15:17       ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-26 16:07       ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-26 16:07         ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-25  6:17 ` [patch 07/12] mm: page_alloc: inline should_alloc_retry() Johannes Weiner
2015-03-25  6:17   ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-26 14:11   ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-26 14:11     ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-26 15:18     ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-26 15:18       ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-25  6:17 ` [patch 08/12] mm: page_alloc: wait for OOM killer progress before retrying Johannes Weiner
2015-03-25  6:17   ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-25 14:15   ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-03-25 14:15     ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-03-25 17:01     ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-03-25 17:01       ` Vlastimil Babka
2015-03-26 11:28       ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-26 11:28         ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-26 11:24     ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-26 11:24       ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-26 14:32       ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-26 14:32         ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-26 15:23         ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-26 15:23           ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-26 15:38           ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-26 15:38             ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-26 18:17             ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-26 18:17               ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-27 14:01             ` [patch 08/12] mm: page_alloc: wait for OOM killer progressbefore retrying Tetsuo Handa
2015-03-27 14:01               ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-03-26 15:58   ` [patch 08/12] mm: page_alloc: wait for OOM killer progress before retrying Michal Hocko
2015-03-26 15:58     ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-26 18:23     ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-26 18:23       ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-25  6:17 ` [patch 09/12] mm: page_alloc: private memory reserves for OOM-killing allocations Johannes Weiner
2015-03-25  6:17   ` Johannes Weiner
2015-04-14 16:49   ` Michal Hocko
2015-04-14 16:49     ` Michal Hocko
2015-04-24 19:13     ` Johannes Weiner
2015-04-24 19:13       ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-25  6:17 ` [patch 10/12] mm: page_alloc: emergency reserve access for __GFP_NOFAIL allocations Johannes Weiner
2015-03-25  6:17   ` Johannes Weiner
2015-04-14 16:55   ` Michal Hocko
2015-04-14 16:55     ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-25  6:17 ` [patch 11/12] mm: page_alloc: do not lock up GFP_NOFS allocations upon OOM Johannes Weiner
2015-03-25  6:17   ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-26 14:50   ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-26 14:50     ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-25  6:17 ` [patch 12/12] mm: page_alloc: do not lock up low-order " Johannes Weiner
2015-03-25  6:17   ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-26 15:32   ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-26 15:32     ` Michal Hocko
2015-03-26 19:58 ` [patch 00/12] mm: page_alloc: improve OOM mechanism and policy Dave Chinner
2015-03-26 19:58   ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-27 15:05   ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-27 15:05     ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-30  0:32     ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-30  0:32       ` Dave Chinner
2015-03-30 19:31       ` Johannes Weiner
2015-03-30 19:31         ` Johannes Weiner
2015-04-01 15:19       ` Michal Hocko
2015-04-01 15:19         ` Michal Hocko
2015-04-01 21:39         ` Dave Chinner
2015-04-01 21:39           ` Dave Chinner
2015-04-02  7:29           ` Michal Hocko
2015-04-02  7:29             ` Michal Hocko
2015-04-07 14:18         ` Johannes Weiner
2015-04-07 14:18           ` Johannes Weiner
2015-04-11  7:29           ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-04-11  7:29             ` Tetsuo Handa
2015-04-13 12:49             ` Michal Hocko
2015-04-13 12:49               ` Michal Hocko
2015-04-13 12:46           ` Michal Hocko
2015-04-13 12:46             ` Michal Hocko
2015-04-14  0:11             ` Dave Chinner
2015-04-14  0:11               ` Dave Chinner
2015-04-14  7:20               ` Michal Hocko
2015-04-14  7:20                 ` Michal Hocko
2015-04-14 10:36             ` Johannes Weiner
2015-04-14 10:36               ` Johannes Weiner
2015-04-14 14:23               ` Michal Hocko
2015-04-14 14:23                 ` Michal Hocko

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