[Qemu-devel] Bouncing maintainers

[Qemu-devel] Bouncing maintainers

[Markus Armbruster]

I just had another cc: to an address gotten from MAINTAINERS bounce with
"user unknown".

How do we weed out dead MAINTAINERS entries?

Re: [Qemu-devel] Bouncing maintainers

[John Snow]

On 03/25/2015 10:48 AM, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> I just had another cc: to an address gotten from MAINTAINERS bounce with
> "user unknown".
>
> How do we weed out dead MAINTAINERS entries?
>

Automated spambot that runs once a release cycle and reports back to the 
list which entries were dead?

--js

Re: [Qemu-devel] Bouncing maintainers

[Kevin Wolf]

Am 25.03.2015 um 16:45 hat John Snow geschrieben:
> 
> 
> On 03/25/2015 10:48 AM, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> >I just had another cc: to an address gotten from MAINTAINERS bounce with
> >"user unknown".
> >
> >How do we weed out dead MAINTAINERS entries?
> >
> 
> Automated spambot that runs once a release cycle and reports back to
> the list which entries were dead?

I don't need more email. Why can't we just send a patch to MAINTAINERS
dropping the line the first time someone actually notices it?

Kevin

Re: [Qemu-devel] Bouncing maintainers

[John Snow]

On 03/26/2015 09:19 AM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> Am 25.03.2015 um 16:45 hat John Snow geschrieben:
>>
>>
>> On 03/25/2015 10:48 AM, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>>> I just had another cc: to an address gotten from MAINTAINERS bounce with
>>> "user unknown".
>>>
>>> How do we weed out dead MAINTAINERS entries?
>>>
>>
>> Automated spambot that runs once a release cycle and reports back to
>> the list which entries were dead?
>
> I don't need more email. Why can't we just send a patch to MAINTAINERS
> dropping the line the first time someone actually notices it?
>
> Kevin
>

Could make a bot that just watches from: addresses on the list. If it 
sees a mail from you within the last release cycle, it assumes you are 
still alive.

If it doesn't hear from you for an entire release cycle, it sends out a 
small ping and looks for bounces.

Only once a release would be not more than four times a year, and most 
active maintainers would never see a single email.

Or, yes, manually when it happens...

Re: [Qemu-devel] Bouncing maintainers

[Markus Armbruster]

John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com> writes:

> On 03/26/2015 09:19 AM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
>> Am 25.03.2015 um 16:45 hat John Snow geschrieben:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 03/25/2015 10:48 AM, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>>>> I just had another cc: to an address gotten from MAINTAINERS bounce with
>>>> "user unknown".
>>>>
>>>> How do we weed out dead MAINTAINERS entries?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Automated spambot that runs once a release cycle and reports back to
>>> the list which entries were dead?
>>
>> I don't need more email. Why can't we just send a patch to MAINTAINERS
>> dropping the line the first time someone actually notices it?
>>
>> Kevin
>>
>
> Could make a bot that just watches from: addresses on the list. If it
> sees a mail from you within the last release cycle, it assumes you are
> still alive.

Is this something patchew could do for us?  It already watches list
traffic.

> If it doesn't hear from you for an entire release cycle, it sends out
> a small ping and looks for bounces.

I'm not sure I'd bother with the ping.  Post the list of absentee
maintainers, and let humans take it from there.

> Only once a release would be not more than four times a year, and most
> active maintainers would never see a single email.
>
> Or, yes, manually when it happens...

Re: [Qemu-devel] Bouncing maintainers

[John Snow]

On 03/31/2015 06:01 AM, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com> writes:
>
>> On 03/26/2015 09:19 AM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
>>> Am 25.03.2015 um 16:45 hat John Snow geschrieben:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 03/25/2015 10:48 AM, Markus Armbruster wrote:
>>>>> I just had another cc: to an address gotten from MAINTAINERS bounce with
>>>>> "user unknown".
>>>>>
>>>>> How do we weed out dead MAINTAINERS entries?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Automated spambot that runs once a release cycle and reports back to
>>>> the list which entries were dead?
>>>
>>> I don't need more email. Why can't we just send a patch to MAINTAINERS
>>> dropping the line the first time someone actually notices it?
>>>
>>> Kevin
>>>
>>
>> Could make a bot that just watches from: addresses on the list. If it
>> sees a mail from you within the last release cycle, it assumes you are
>> still alive.
>
> Is this something patchew could do for us?  It already watches list
> traffic.
>

Good idea. We can add a Maintainers status page that shows how long it's 
been since it's heard from each maintainer, and sort them in order, and 
we can check the page here and again.

(Or, when patchew is made to be more stable, incorporated into a 
quarterly status report that it sends out to the list)

>> If it doesn't hear from you for an entire release cycle, it sends out
>> a small ping and looks for bounces.
>
> I'm not sure I'd bother with the ping.  Post the list of absentee
> maintainers, and let humans take it from there.
>
>> Only once a release would be not more than four times a year, and most
>> active maintainers would never see a single email.
>>
>> Or, yes, manually when it happens...

Re: [Qemu-devel] Bouncing maintainers

[Fam Zheng]

On Tue, 03/31 12:01, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com> writes:
> 
> > On 03/26/2015 09:19 AM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> >> Am 25.03.2015 um 16:45 hat John Snow geschrieben:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 03/25/2015 10:48 AM, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> >>>> I just had another cc: to an address gotten from MAINTAINERS bounce with
> >>>> "user unknown".
> >>>>
> >>>> How do we weed out dead MAINTAINERS entries?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Automated spambot that runs once a release cycle and reports back to
> >>> the list which entries were dead?
> >>
> >> I don't need more email. Why can't we just send a patch to MAINTAINERS
> >> dropping the line the first time someone actually notices it?
> >>
> >> Kevin
> >>
> >
> > Could make a bot that just watches from: addresses on the list. If it
> > sees a mail from you within the last release cycle, it assumes you are
> > still alive.
> 
> Is this something patchew could do for us?  It already watches list
> traffic.

Yes.

Patchew can be added a page to list active addresses by release cycles. By
comparing against MAINTAINERS file we know who are inactive.

Fam

> 
> > If it doesn't hear from you for an entire release cycle, it sends out
> > a small ping and looks for bounces.
> 
> I'm not sure I'd bother with the ping.  Post the list of absentee
> maintainers, and let humans take it from there.
> 
> > Only once a release would be not more than four times a year, and most
> > active maintainers would never see a single email.
> >
> > Or, yes, manually when it happens...