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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Waiman Long <waiman.long@hp.com>
Cc: tglx@linutronix.de, mingo@redhat.com, hpa@zytor.com,
	paolo.bonzini@gmail.com, konrad.wilk@oracle.com,
	boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com, paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com,
	riel@redhat.com, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	raghavendra.kt@linux.vnet.ibm.com, david.vrabel@citrix.com,
	oleg@redhat.com, scott.norton@hp.com, doug.hatch@hp.com,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, x86@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org,
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	luto@amacapital.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH 8/9] qspinlock: Generic paravirt support
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 19:42:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150401174239.GO24151@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150401171223.GO23123@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 07:12:23PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 12:20:30PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
> > After more careful reading, I think the assumption that the presence of an
> > unused bucket means there is no match is not true. Consider the scenario:
> > 
> > 1. cpu 0 puts lock1 into hb[0]
> > 2. cpu 1 puts lock2 into hb[1]
> > 3. cpu 2 clears hb[0]
> > 4. cpu 3 looks for lock2 and doesn't find it
> 
> Hmm, yes. The only way I can see that being true is if we assume entries
> are never taken out again.
> 
> The wikipedia page could use some clarification here, this is not clear.
> 
> > At this point, I am thinking using back your previous idea of passing the
> > queue head information down the queue.
> 
> Having to scan the entire array for a lookup sure sucks, but the wait
> loops involved in the other idea can get us in the exact predicament we
> were trying to get out, because their forward progress depends on other
> CPUs.
> 
> Hohumm.. time to think more I think ;-)

So bear with me, I've not really pondered this well so it could be full
of holes (again).

After the cmpxchg(&l->locked, _Q_LOCKED_VAL, _Q_SLOW_VAL) succeeds the
spin_unlock() must do the hash lookup, right? We can make the lookup
unhash.

If the cmpxchg() fails the unlock will not do the lookup and we must
unhash.


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Waiman Long <waiman.long@hp.com>
Cc: linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, riel@redhat.com, x86@kernel.org,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, konrad.wilk@oracle.com, scott.norton@hp.com,
	raghavendra.kt@linux.vnet.ibm.com, paolo.bonzini@gmail.com,
	oleg@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com,
	david.vrabel@citrix.com, hpa@zytor.com, luto@amacapital.net,
	xen-devel@lists.xenproject.org, tglx@linutronix.de,
	paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com, torvalds@linux-foundation.org,
	boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, doug.hatch@hp.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 8/9] qspinlock: Generic paravirt support
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2015 19:42:39 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150401174239.GO24151@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150401171223.GO23123@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 07:12:23PM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 12:20:30PM -0400, Waiman Long wrote:
> > After more careful reading, I think the assumption that the presence of an
> > unused bucket means there is no match is not true. Consider the scenario:
> > 
> > 1. cpu 0 puts lock1 into hb[0]
> > 2. cpu 1 puts lock2 into hb[1]
> > 3. cpu 2 clears hb[0]
> > 4. cpu 3 looks for lock2 and doesn't find it
> 
> Hmm, yes. The only way I can see that being true is if we assume entries
> are never taken out again.
> 
> The wikipedia page could use some clarification here, this is not clear.
> 
> > At this point, I am thinking using back your previous idea of passing the
> > queue head information down the queue.
> 
> Having to scan the entire array for a lookup sure sucks, but the wait
> loops involved in the other idea can get us in the exact predicament we
> were trying to get out, because their forward progress depends on other
> CPUs.
> 
> Hohumm.. time to think more I think ;-)

So bear with me, I've not really pondered this well so it could be full
of holes (again).

After the cmpxchg(&l->locked, _Q_LOCKED_VAL, _Q_SLOW_VAL) succeeds the
spin_unlock() must do the hash lookup, right? We can make the lookup
unhash.

If the cmpxchg() fails the unlock will not do the lookup and we must
unhash.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-04-01 17:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-03-16 13:16 [PATCH 0/9] qspinlock stuff -v15 Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-16 13:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-16 13:16 ` [PATCH 1/9] qspinlock: A simple generic 4-byte queue spinlock Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-16 13:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-16 13:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-16 13:16 ` [PATCH 2/9] qspinlock, x86: Enable x86-64 to use " Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-16 13:16   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-16 13:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-16 13:16 ` [PATCH 3/9] qspinlock: Add pending bit Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-16 13:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-16 13:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-16 13:16 ` [PATCH 4/9] qspinlock: Extract out code snippets for the next patch Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-16 13:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-16 13:16   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-16 13:16 ` [PATCH 5/9] qspinlock: Optimize for smaller NR_CPUS Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-16 13:16   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-16 13:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-16 13:16 ` [PATCH 6/9] qspinlock: Use a simple write to grab the lock Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-16 13:16   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-16 13:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-16 13:16 ` [PATCH 7/9] qspinlock: Revert to test-and-set on hypervisors Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-16 13:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-16 13:16   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-16 13:16 ` [PATCH 8/9] qspinlock: Generic paravirt support Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-16 13:16   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-18 20:50   ` Waiman Long
2015-03-19 10:12     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-19 10:12     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-19 10:12     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-19 12:25       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-19 12:25         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-19 13:43         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-19 13:43         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-19 13:43         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-19 23:25         ` Waiman Long
2015-03-19 23:25         ` Waiman Long
2015-03-19 23:25         ` Waiman Long
2015-04-01 16:20         ` Waiman Long
2015-04-01 16:20         ` Waiman Long
2015-04-01 16:20           ` Waiman Long
2015-04-01 17:12           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-01 17:12           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-01 17:12           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-01 17:42             ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2015-04-01 17:42               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-01 18:17               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-01 18:17                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-01 18:54                 ` Waiman Long
2015-04-01 18:54                   ` Waiman Long
2015-04-01 18:48                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-01 18:48                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-01 19:58                     ` Waiman Long
2015-04-01 21:03                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-01 21:03                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-01 21:03                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-02 16:28                         ` Waiman Long
2015-04-02 17:20                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-02 17:20                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-02 19:48                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-02 19:48                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-03  3:39                               ` Waiman Long
2015-04-03  3:39                                 ` Waiman Long
2015-04-03  3:39                               ` Waiman Long
2015-04-03 13:43                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-03 13:43                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-03 13:43                                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-02 19:48                             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-02 17:20                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-02 16:28                         ` Waiman Long
2015-04-02 16:28                         ` Waiman Long
2015-04-01 19:58                     ` Waiman Long
2015-04-01 19:58                     ` Waiman Long
2015-04-01 18:48                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-01 18:54                 ` Waiman Long
2015-04-01 18:17               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-01 17:42             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-04-01 20:10             ` Waiman Long
2015-04-01 20:10             ` Waiman Long
2015-04-01 20:10             ` Waiman Long
2015-03-19 12:25       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-18 20:50   ` Waiman Long
2015-03-16 13:16 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-16 13:16 ` [PATCH 9/9] qspinlock, x86, kvm: Implement KVM support for paravirt qspinlock Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-16 13:16 ` [PATCH 9/9] qspinlock,x86,kvm: " Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-16 13:16   ` [PATCH 9/9] qspinlock, x86, kvm: " Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-19  2:45   ` Waiman Long
2015-03-19 10:01     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-19 10:01     ` [PATCH 9/9] qspinlock,x86,kvm: " Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-19 10:01       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-19 21:08       ` [PATCH 9/9] qspinlock, x86, kvm: " Waiman Long
2015-03-19 21:08       ` [PATCH 9/9] qspinlock,x86,kvm: " Waiman Long
2015-03-19 21:08         ` [PATCH 9/9] qspinlock, x86, kvm: " Waiman Long
2015-03-20  7:43         ` Raghavendra K T
2015-03-20  7:43         ` [PATCH 9/9] qspinlock,x86,kvm: " Raghavendra K T
2015-03-20  7:43           ` [PATCH 9/9] qspinlock, x86, kvm: " Raghavendra K T
2015-03-19  2:45   ` Waiman Long
2015-03-16 14:08 ` [PATCH 0/9] qspinlock stuff -v15 David Vrabel
2015-03-16 14:08 ` [Xen-devel] " David Vrabel
2015-03-16 14:08   ` David Vrabel
2015-03-16 14:08   ` David Vrabel
2015-03-16 14:08   ` David Vrabel
2015-03-18 20:36 ` Waiman Long
2015-03-18 20:36 ` Waiman Long
2015-03-18 20:36 ` Waiman Long
2015-03-19 18:01 ` [Xen-devel] " David Vrabel
2015-03-19 18:01 ` David Vrabel
2015-03-19 18:01   ` David Vrabel
2015-03-19 18:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-19 18:32     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-19 18:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-19 18:01 ` David Vrabel
2015-03-25 19:47 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-03-26 20:21   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-26 20:21   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-26 20:21     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-27 14:07     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-03-27 14:07     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-03-27 14:07     ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-03-30 16:41       ` Waiman Long
2015-03-30 16:41       ` Waiman Long
2015-03-30 16:41       ` Waiman Long
2015-03-30 16:25   ` Waiman Long
2015-03-30 16:25   ` Waiman Long
2015-03-30 16:29     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-30 16:29       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-30 16:43       ` Waiman Long
2015-03-30 16:43       ` Waiman Long
2015-03-30 16:43         ` Waiman Long
2015-03-30 16:29     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-03-30 16:25   ` Waiman Long
2015-03-25 19:47 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-03-25 19:47 ` Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk
2015-03-27  6:40 ` Raghavendra K T
2015-03-27  6:40 ` Raghavendra K T
2015-03-27  6:40 ` Raghavendra K T

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