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From: Eric B Munson <emunson@akamai.com>
To: Michal Hocko <miso@dhcp22.suse.cz>
Cc: Michael Kerrisk <mtk.manpages@gmail.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mmap.2: clarify MAP_LOCKED semantic
Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 10:48:30 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150513144830.GF1227@akamai.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150513144506.GD1227@akamai.com>

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On Wed, 13 May 2015, Eric B Munson wrote:

> On Wed, 13 May 2015, Michal Hocko wrote:
> 
> > From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
> > 
> > MAP_LOCKED had a subtly different semantic from mmap(2)+mlock(2) since
> > it has been introduced.
> > mlock(2) fails if the memory range cannot get populated to guarantee
> > that no future major faults will happen on the range. mmap(MAP_LOCKED) on
> > the other hand silently succeeds even if the range was populated only
> > partially.
> > 
> > Fixing this subtle difference in the kernel is rather awkward because
> > the memory population happens after mm locks have been dropped and so
> > the cleanup before returning failure (munlock) could operate on something
> > else than the originally mapped area.
> > 
> > E.g. speculative userspace page fault handler catching SEGV and doing
> > mmap(fault_addr, MAP_FIXED|MAP_LOCKED) might discard portion of a racing
> > mmap and lead to lost data. Although it is not clear whether such a
> > usage would be valid, mmap page doesn't explicitly describe requirements
> > for threaded applications so we cannot exclude this possibility.
> > 
> > This patch makes the semantic of MAP_LOCKED explicit and suggest using
> > mmap + mlock as the only way to guarantee no later major page faults.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.cz>
> 
> Does the problem still happend when MAP_POPULATE | MAP_LOCKED is used
> (AFAICT MAP_POPULATE will cause the mmap to fail if all the pages cannot
> be made present).
> 
> Either way this is a good catch.
> 
> Acked-by: Eric B Munson <emunson@akamai.com>
> 
Sorry for the noise, this should have been a

Reviewed-by: Eric B Munson <emunson@akamai.com>


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From: Eric B Munson <emunson-JqFfY2XvxFXQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Michal Hocko <miso-2MMpYkNvuYDjFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Michael Kerrisk
	<mtk.manpages-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	Andrew Morton
	<akpm-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	Linus Torvalds
	<torvalds-de/tnXTf+JLsfHDXvbKv3WD2FQJk+8+b@public.gmane.org>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-mm-Bw31MaZKKs3YtjvyW6yDsg@public.gmane.org,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] mmap.2: clarify MAP_LOCKED semantic
Date: Wed, 13 May 2015 10:48:30 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150513144830.GF1227@akamai.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150513144506.GD1227-JqFfY2XvxFXQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

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On Wed, 13 May 2015, Eric B Munson wrote:

> On Wed, 13 May 2015, Michal Hocko wrote:
> 
> > From: Michal Hocko <mhocko-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
> > 
> > MAP_LOCKED had a subtly different semantic from mmap(2)+mlock(2) since
> > it has been introduced.
> > mlock(2) fails if the memory range cannot get populated to guarantee
> > that no future major faults will happen on the range. mmap(MAP_LOCKED) on
> > the other hand silently succeeds even if the range was populated only
> > partially.
> > 
> > Fixing this subtle difference in the kernel is rather awkward because
> > the memory population happens after mm locks have been dropped and so
> > the cleanup before returning failure (munlock) could operate on something
> > else than the originally mapped area.
> > 
> > E.g. speculative userspace page fault handler catching SEGV and doing
> > mmap(fault_addr, MAP_FIXED|MAP_LOCKED) might discard portion of a racing
> > mmap and lead to lost data. Although it is not clear whether such a
> > usage would be valid, mmap page doesn't explicitly describe requirements
> > for threaded applications so we cannot exclude this possibility.
> > 
> > This patch makes the semantic of MAP_LOCKED explicit and suggest using
> > mmap + mlock as the only way to guarantee no later major page faults.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
> 
> Does the problem still happend when MAP_POPULATE | MAP_LOCKED is used
> (AFAICT MAP_POPULATE will cause the mmap to fail if all the pages cannot
> be made present).
> 
> Either way this is a good catch.
> 
> Acked-by: Eric B Munson <emunson-JqFfY2XvxFXQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
> 
Sorry for the noise, this should have been a

Reviewed-by: Eric B Munson <emunson-JqFfY2XvxFXQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>


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  reply	other threads:[~2015-05-13 14:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-13 14:38 [PATCH 0/2] man-pages: clarify MAP_LOCKED semantic Michal Hocko
2015-05-13 14:38 ` Michal Hocko
2015-05-13 14:38 ` [PATCH 1/2] mmap.2: " Michal Hocko
2015-05-13 14:38   ` Michal Hocko
2015-05-13 14:38   ` Michal Hocko
2015-05-13 14:45   ` Eric B Munson
2015-05-13 14:48     ` Eric B Munson [this message]
2015-05-13 14:48       ` Eric B Munson
2015-05-14  8:01     ` Michal Hocko
2015-05-14  8:01       ` Michal Hocko
2015-05-14  8:01       ` Michal Hocko
2015-05-14 13:36   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-05-14 13:36     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2016-05-11 11:07   ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-11 11:07     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-11 11:07     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-11 11:18     ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-11 11:18       ` Peter Zijlstra
2016-05-11 11:32     ` Michal Hocko
2016-05-11 11:32       ` Michal Hocko
2016-05-11 11:32       ` Michal Hocko
2015-05-13 14:38 ` [PATCH 2/2] mmap2: clarify MAP_POPULATE Michal Hocko
2015-05-13 14:38   ` Michal Hocko
2015-05-13 14:47   ` Eric B Munson
2015-05-13 14:47     ` Eric B Munson
2015-05-14 13:36   ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-05-14 13:36     ` Michael Kerrisk (man-pages)
2015-05-15  0:13   ` David Rientjes
2015-05-15  0:13     ` David Rientjes
2015-05-18  9:12 ` [PATCH 0/2] man-pages: clarify MAP_LOCKED semantic Michal Hocko
2015-05-18  9:12   ` Michal Hocko
2015-05-18  9:12   ` Michal Hocko

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