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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xensource.com,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>,
	rth@twiddle.net
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Do not emulate a floppy drive when -nodefaults
Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 16:07:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150514160545-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878ucr4bb7.fsf@blackfin.pond.sub.org>

On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 02:02:04PM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Correct.
> 
> Here's how I think it should be done:
> 
> * Create a machine option to control the FDC
> 
>   This is a machine-specific option.  It should only exist for machine
>   types that have an optional FDC.
> 
>   Default must be "on" for old machine types.  Default may be "off" for
>   new machine types.
> 
>   It should certainly be off for pc-q35-2.4 and newer.  Real Q35 boards
>   commonly don't have an FDC (depends on the Super I/O chip used).
> 
>   We may want to keep it off for pc-i440fx-2.4 and newer.  I doubt
>   there's a real i440FX without an FDC, but our virtual i440FX is quite
>   unlike a real one in other ways already.

I think making it off by default is a bad idea, it will break
command-line users.


> * Create the FDC only if the option is "on".
> 
> * Optional: make -drive if=floppy,... auto-enable it

Every time we do such auto hacks, we regret this later.
Just do what we are told, fail if=floppy if disabled.

>   I wouldn't bother doing the same for -global isa-fdc.driveA=... and
>   such.
> 
> Stefano, if you're willing to tackle this, go right ahead!

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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>,
	xen-devel@lists.xensource.com,
	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@eu.citrix.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, pbonzini@redhat.com,
	John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>,
	rth@twiddle.net
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Do not emulate a floppy drive when -nodefaults
Date: Thu, 14 May 2015 16:07:55 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150514160545-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <878ucr4bb7.fsf@blackfin.pond.sub.org>

On Thu, May 14, 2015 at 02:02:04PM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Correct.
> 
> Here's how I think it should be done:
> 
> * Create a machine option to control the FDC
> 
>   This is a machine-specific option.  It should only exist for machine
>   types that have an optional FDC.
> 
>   Default must be "on" for old machine types.  Default may be "off" for
>   new machine types.
> 
>   It should certainly be off for pc-q35-2.4 and newer.  Real Q35 boards
>   commonly don't have an FDC (depends on the Super I/O chip used).
> 
>   We may want to keep it off for pc-i440fx-2.4 and newer.  I doubt
>   there's a real i440FX without an FDC, but our virtual i440FX is quite
>   unlike a real one in other ways already.

I think making it off by default is a bad idea, it will break
command-line users.


> * Create the FDC only if the option is "on".
> 
> * Optional: make -drive if=floppy,... auto-enable it

Every time we do such auto hacks, we regret this later.
Just do what we are told, fail if=floppy if disabled.

>   I wouldn't bother doing the same for -global isa-fdc.driveA=... and
>   such.
> 
> Stefano, if you're willing to tackle this, go right ahead!

  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-05-14 14:08 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-05-13 17:29 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Do not emulate a floppy drive when -nodefaults Stefano Stabellini
2015-05-13 17:29 ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-05-13 17:42 ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2015-05-13 17:42   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-05-13 18:15   ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
2015-05-13 18:15     ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-05-13 21:46     ` [Qemu-devel] " John Snow
2015-05-13 21:46       ` John Snow
2015-05-14 11:12       ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
2015-05-14 11:12         ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-05-14 11:18         ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2015-05-14 11:18           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-05-14 11:46           ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-05-14 11:46             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-05-14 12:02           ` [Qemu-devel] " Markus Armbruster
2015-05-14 12:02             ` Markus Armbruster
2015-05-14 12:11             ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-14 12:11               ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-14 12:45               ` [Qemu-devel] " Markus Armbruster
2015-05-14 12:45                 ` Markus Armbruster
2015-05-14 12:48                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2015-05-14 12:48                   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-05-14 12:53                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-14 12:53                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-14 13:25                   ` [Qemu-devel] [Xen-devel] " Sander Eikelenboom
2015-05-14 13:25                     ` Sander Eikelenboom
2015-05-14 13:41                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Daniel P. Berrange
2015-05-14 13:41                       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2015-05-14 13:55                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-14 13:55                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-14 14:39                       ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
2015-05-14 14:39                         ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-05-14 14:44                         ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-14 14:44                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-14 14:52                           ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
2015-05-14 14:52                             ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-05-14 13:57                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-05-14 13:57                       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-05-14 14:07             ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2015-05-14 14:07               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-05-14 17:54               ` [Qemu-devel] " John Snow
2015-05-14 17:54                 ` John Snow
2015-05-15  7:50                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Markus Armbruster
2015-05-15  7:50                   ` Markus Armbruster
2015-05-15  8:19                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-15  8:19                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-15 10:20                     ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefano Stabellini
2015-05-15 10:20                       ` Stefano Stabellini
2015-05-18  9:19                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2015-05-18  9:19                   ` Kevin Wolf
2015-05-14 11:47         ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-05-14 11:47           ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-05-14 11:54           ` [Qemu-devel] " Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-14 11:54             ` Paolo Bonzini
2015-05-14 11:56             ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-05-14 11:56               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-05-14 12:47             ` [Qemu-devel] " Markus Armbruster
2015-05-14 12:47               ` Markus Armbruster
2015-05-14  4:38     ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Weil
2015-05-14  4:38       ` Stefan Weil
2015-05-14  5:45       ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-05-14  5:45         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-05-13 21:44 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2015-05-13 21:44   ` Michael S. Tsirkin

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