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From: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
Cc: umgwanakikbuti@gmail.com, mingo@elte.hu, ktkhai@parallels.com,
	rostedt@goodmis.org, tglx@linutronix.de, juri.lelli@gmail.com,
	pang.xunlei@linaro.org, wanpeng.li@linux.intel.com,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/14] hrtimer: Allow hrtimer::function() to free the timer
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 16:27:49 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150608142749.GB13168@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150608124234.GW18673@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net>

On 06/08, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jun 08, 2015 at 11:14:17AM +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > > Finally. Suppose that timer->function() returns HRTIMER_RESTART
> > > and hrtimer_active() is called right after __run_hrtimer() sets
> > > cpu_base->running = NULL. I can't understand why hrtimer_active()
> > > can't miss ENQUEUED in this case. We have wmb() in between, yes,
> > > but then hrtimer_active() should do something like
> > >
> > > 	active = cpu_base->running == timer;
> > > 	if (!active) {
> > > 		rmb();
> > > 		active = state != HRTIMER_STATE_INACTIVE;
> > > 	}
> > >
> > > No?
> >
> > Hmm, good point. Let me think about that. It would be nice to be able to
> > avoid more memory barriers.

Yes, but otoh, can't we avoid seqcount_t altogether?

To remind, we assume that

	- "false positive" is fine. If we observe ENQUEUED or ->running
	  we can safely return true. It doesn't matter if the timer becomes
	  "inactive" right after return.

	- we need to fix migrate_hrtimer_list() and __hrtimer_start_range_ns()
	  to preserve ENQUEUED. This fixes the races with hrtimer_is_queued()
	  and hrtimer_active() we currently have.

Now, can't we simply do

	__run_hrtimer()
	{

		cpu_base->running = timer;

		wmb();				// 1

		__remove_hrtimer(INACTIVE);	// clears ENQUEUED

		fn();				// autorearm can set ENQUEUED again

		wmb();				// 2

		cpu_base->running = NULL;	// XXX
	}

	hrtimer_active(timer)
	{
		if (timer->state & ENQUEUED)
			return true;

		rmb();				// pairs with 1


		// We do not care if we race with __hrtimer_start_range_ns().
		// The running timer can't change its base.
		// If it was ENQUEUED, we rely on the previous check.

		base = timer->base->cpu_base;
		read_barrier_depends();
		if (base->running == timer)
			return true;

		rmb();				// pairs with 2

		// Avoid the race with auto-rearming timer. If we see the
		// result of XXX above we should also see ENQUEUED if it
		// was set by __run_hrtimer() or timer->function().
		//
		// We do not care if another thread does hrtimer_start()
		// and we miss ENQUEUED. In this case we can the "inactive"
		// window anyway, we can pretend that hrtimer_start() was
		// called after XXX above. So we can equally pretend that
		// hrtimer_active() was called in this window.
		//
		if (timer->state & ENQUEUED)
			return true;

		return false;
	}

Most probably I missed something... I'll try to think more, but perhaps
you see a hole immediately?

Oleg.


  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-08 14:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-05  8:48 [PATCH 00/14] sched: balance callbacks Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-05  8:48 ` [PATCH 01/14] sched: Replace post_schedule with a balance callback list Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-05  8:48 ` [PATCH 02/14] sched: Use replace normalize_task() with __sched_setscheduler() Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-05  8:48 ` [PATCH 03/14] sched: Allow balance callbacks for check_class_changed() Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-05  8:48 ` [PATCH 04/14] sched,rt: Remove return value from pull_rt_task() Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-05  8:48 ` [PATCH 05/14] sched,rt: Convert switched_{from,to}_rt() / prio_changed_rt() to balance callbacks Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-05  8:48 ` [PATCH 06/14] sched,dl: Remove return value from pull_dl_task() Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-05  8:48 ` [PATCH 07/14] sched,dl: Convert switched_{from,to}_dl() / prio_changed_dl() to balance callbacks Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-05  8:48 ` [PATCH 08/14] hrtimer: Allow hrtimer::function() to free the timer Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-05  9:48   ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-06-07 19:43   ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-07 22:33   ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-07 22:56     ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-08  8:06       ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-06-08  9:14     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-08 10:55       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-08 12:42       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-08 14:27         ` Oleg Nesterov [this message]
2015-06-08 14:42           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-08 15:49             ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-08 15:10           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-08 15:16             ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-09 21:33         ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-09 21:39           ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-10  6:55           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-10  7:46           ` Kirill Tkhai
2015-06-10 16:04             ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-11  7:31               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-11 16:25               ` Kirill Tkhai
2015-06-10 15:49           ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-10 22:37           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-08 14:03       ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-08 14:17       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-08 15:10         ` [PATCH 0/3] hrtimer: HRTIMER_STATE_ fixes Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-08 15:11           ` [PATCH 2/3] hrtimer: turn newstate arg of __remove_hrtimer() into clear_enqueued Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-08 15:11           ` [PATCH 3/3] hrtimer: fix the __hrtimer_start_range_ns() race with hrtimer_active() Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-08 15:12           ` [PATCH 1/3] hrtimer: kill HRTIMER_STATE_MIGRATE, fix the race with hrtimer_is_queued() Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-08 15:35           ` [PATCH 0/3] hrtimer: HRTIMER_STATE_ fixes Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-08 15:56             ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-08 17:11             ` Thomas Gleixner
2015-06-08 19:08               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-08 20:52               ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-08 15:10         ` [PATCH 1/3] hrtimer: kill HRTIMER_STATE_MIGRATE, fix the race with hrtimer_is_queued() Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-08 15:13           ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-05  8:48 ` [PATCH 09/14] sched,dl: Fix sched class hopping CBS hole Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-05  8:48 ` [PATCH 10/14] sched: Move code around Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-05  8:48 ` [PATCH 11/14] sched: Streamline the task migration locking a little Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-05  8:48 ` [PATCH 12/14] lockdep: Simplify lock_release() Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-05  8:48 ` [PATCH 13/14] lockdep: Implement lock pinning Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-05  9:55   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-11 11:37     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-05  8:48 ` [PATCH 14/14] sched,lockdep: Employ " Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-05  9:57   ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-05 11:03     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-05 11:24       ` Ingo Molnar

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