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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	tj@kernel.org, mingo@redhat.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	der.herr@hofr.at, dave@stgolabs.net, riel@redhat.com,
	viro@ZenIV.linux.org.uk, torvalds@linux-foundation.org
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH 12/13] stop_machine: Remove lglock
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 13:07:34 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150625110734.GX3644@twins.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20150625032303.GO3717@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 08:23:17PM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> Here is what I had in mind, where you don't have any global trashing
> except when the ->expedited_sequence gets updated.  Passes mild rcutorture
> testing.

>  	/*
> +	 * Each pass through the following loop works its way
> +	 * up the rcu_node tree, returning if others have done the
> +	 * work or otherwise falls through holding the root rnp's
> +	 * ->exp_funnel_mutex.  The mapping from CPU to rcu_node structure
> +	 * can be inexact, as it is just promoting locality and is not
> +	 * strictly needed for correctness.
>  	 */
> +	rnp0 = per_cpu_ptr(rsp->rda, raw_smp_processor_id())->mynode;
> +	for (; rnp0 != NULL; rnp0 = rnp0->parent) {
> +		if (sync_sched_exp_wd(rsp, rnp1, &rsp->expedited_workdone1, s))
>  			return;
> +		mutex_lock(&rnp0->exp_funnel_mutex);
> +		if (rnp1)
> +			mutex_unlock(&rnp1->exp_funnel_mutex);
> +		rnp1 = rnp0;
> +	}
> +	rnp0 = rnp1;  /* rcu_get_root(rsp), AKA root rcu_node structure. */
> +	if (sync_sched_exp_wd(rsp, rnp0, &rsp->expedited_workdone2, s))
> +		return;

I'm still somewhat confused by the whole strict order sequence vs this
non ordered 'polling' of global state.

This funnel thing basically waits random times depending on the
contention of these mutexes and tries again. Ultimately serializing on
the root funnel thing.

So on the one hand you have to strictly order these expedited caller,
but then you don't want to actually process them in order. If 'by magic'
you manage to process the 3rd in queue, you can drop the 2nd because it
will have waited long enough. OTOH the 2nd will have waited too long.

You also do not take the actual RCU state machine into account -- this
is a parallel state.

Can't we integrate the force quiescent state machinery with the
expedited machinery -- that is instead of building a parallel state, use
the expedited thing to push the regular machine forward?

We can use the stop_machine calls to force the local RCU state forward,
after all, we _know_ we just made a context switch into the stopper
thread. All we need to do is disable interrupts to hold off the tick
(which normally drives the state machine) and just unconditionally
advance our state.

If we use the regular GP machinery, you also don't have to strongly
order the callers, just stick them on whatever GP was active when they
came in and let them roll, this allows much better (and more natural)
concurrent processing.

  reply	other threads:[~2015-06-25 11:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-06-22 12:16 [RFC][PATCH 00/13] percpu rwsem -v2 Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-22 12:16 ` [RFC][PATCH 01/13] rcu: Create rcu_sync infrastructure Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-22 12:16 ` [RFC][PATCH 02/13] rcusync: Introduce struct rcu_sync_ops Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-22 12:16 ` [RFC][PATCH 03/13] rcusync: Add the CONFIG_PROVE_RCU checks Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-22 12:16 ` [RFC][PATCH 04/13] rcusync: Introduce rcu_sync_dtor() Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-22 12:16 ` [RFC][PATCH 05/13] percpu-rwsem: Optimize readers and reduce global impact Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-22 23:02   ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-23  7:28   ` Nicholas Mc Guire
2015-06-25 19:08     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-25 19:17       ` Tejun Heo
2015-06-29  9:32         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-29 15:12           ` Tejun Heo
2015-06-29 15:14             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-22 12:16 ` [RFC][PATCH 06/13] percpu-rwsem: Provide percpu_down_read_trylock() Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-22 23:08   ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-22 12:16 ` [RFC][PATCH 07/13] sched: Reorder task_struct Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-22 12:16 ` [RFC][PATCH 08/13] percpu-rwsem: DEFINE_STATIC_PERCPU_RWSEM Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-22 12:16 ` [RFC][PATCH 09/13] hotplug: Replace hotplug lock with percpu-rwsem Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-22 22:57   ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-23  7:16     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-23 17:01       ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-23 17:53         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-24 13:50           ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-24 14:13             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-24 15:12               ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-24 16:15                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-28 23:56             ` [PATCH 0/3] percpu-rwsem: introduce percpu_rw_semaphore->recursive mode Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-28 23:56               ` [PATCH 1/3] rcusync: introduce rcu_sync_struct->exclusive mode Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-28 23:56               ` [PATCH 2/3] percpu-rwsem: don't use percpu_rw_semaphore->rw_sem to exclude writers Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-28 23:56               ` [PATCH 3/3] percpu-rwsem: introduce percpu_rw_semaphore->recursive mode Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-22 12:16 ` [RFC][PATCH 10/13] fs/locks: Replace lg_global with a percpu-rwsem Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-22 12:16 ` [RFC][PATCH 11/13] fs/locks: Replace lg_local with a per-cpu spinlock Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-23  0:19   ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-22 12:16 ` [RFC][PATCH 12/13] stop_machine: Remove lglock Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-22 22:21   ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-23 10:09     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-23 10:55       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-23 11:20         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-23 13:08           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-23 16:36             ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-23 17:30             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-23 18:04               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-23 18:26                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-23 19:05                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-24  2:23                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-24  8:32                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-24  9:31                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-24 13:48                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-24 15:01                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-24 15:34                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-24  7:35                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-24  8:42                     ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-24 13:39                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-24 13:43                         ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-24 14:03                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-24 14:50                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-24 15:01                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-24 15:27                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-24 15:40                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-24 16:09                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-24 16:42                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-24 17:10                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-24 17:20                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-24 17:29                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-24 17:28                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-24 17:32                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-24 18:14                                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-24 17:58                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-25  3:23                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-25 11:07                                       ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2015-06-25 13:47                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-25 14:20                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-25 14:51                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-26 12:32                                               ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-26 16:14                                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-29  7:56                                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-30 21:32                                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-01 11:56                                                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-01 15:56                                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-07-01 16:16                                                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-01 18:45                                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-23 14:39         ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-06-23 16:20       ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-23 17:24         ` Oleg Nesterov
2015-06-25 19:18           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-22 12:16 ` [RFC][PATCH 13/13] locking: " Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-22 12:36 ` [RFC][PATCH 00/13] percpu rwsem -v2 Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-22 18:11 ` Daniel Wagner
2015-06-22 19:05   ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-23  9:35     ` Daniel Wagner
2015-06-23 10:00       ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-23 14:34       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-23 14:56         ` Daniel Wagner
2015-06-23 17:50           ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-23 19:36             ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-24  8:46               ` Ingo Molnar
2015-06-24  9:01                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-06-24  9:18                 ` Daniel Wagner
2015-07-01  5:57                   ` Daniel Wagner
2015-07-01 21:54                     ` Linus Torvalds
2015-07-02  9:41                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2015-07-20  5:53                         ` Daniel Wagner
2015-07-20 18:44                           ` Linus Torvalds
2015-06-22 20:06 ` Linus Torvalds
2015-06-23 16:10 ` Davidlohr Bueso
2015-06-23 16:21   ` Peter Zijlstra

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