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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
To: Steve Wise <swise-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH V6 9/9] isert: Support iWARP transports using FRMRs
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 13:24:11 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150724192411.GC26225@obsidianresearch.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <00ce01d0c641$493ea300$dbbbe900$@opengridcomputing.com>

On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 01:48:09PM -0500, Steve Wise wrote:
> > The use of FRWR for RDMA READ should be iWarp specific, IB shouldn't
> > pay that overhead. I am expecting to see a cap_rdma_read_rkey or
> > something in here ?
> 
> Ok.  But cap_rdma_read_rkey() doesn't really describe the
> requirement.  The requirement is rkey + REMOTE_WRITE.  So it is more
> like rdma_cap_read_requires_remote_write() which is ugly and too
> long (but descriptive)...

I don't care much what name you pick, just jam something like this in
the description

 If set then RDMA_READ must be performed by mapping the local
 buffers through a rkey MR with ACCESS_REMOTE_WRITE enabled.
 The rkey of this MR should be passed in as the sg_lists's lkey for
 IB_WR_RDMA_READ_WITH_INV.

 FRWR should be used to register the buffer in the send queue,
 and the read should be issued using IB_WR_RDMA_READ_WITH_INV (xx
 can we just implicitly rely on this? Are there any iWarp cards that
 support FRWR but not WITH_INV?)

 Finally, only a single SGE can be used with RDMA_READ, all scattering
 must be accomplished with the MR.

This quite dramatically changes what is an allowed scatter for the
transfer, IB can support arbitary unaligned S/G lists, while this is
now forced into gapless page aligned elements.

Your patch takes care of this? And only impacts IB?

Jason
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From: Jason Gunthorpe <jgunthorpe@obsidianresearch.com>
To: Steve Wise <swise@opengridcomputing.com>
Cc: dledford@redhat.com, infinipath@intel.com, sagig@mellanox.com,
	ogerlitz@mellanox.com, roid@mellanox.com,
	linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, eli@mellanox.com,
	target-devel@vger.kernel.org, linux-nfs@vger.kernel.org,
	bfields@fieldses.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH V6 9/9] isert: Support iWARP transports using FRMRs
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 13:24:11 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150724192411.GC26225@obsidianresearch.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <00ce01d0c641$493ea300$dbbbe900$@opengridcomputing.com>

On Fri, Jul 24, 2015 at 01:48:09PM -0500, Steve Wise wrote:
> > The use of FRWR for RDMA READ should be iWarp specific, IB shouldn't
> > pay that overhead. I am expecting to see a cap_rdma_read_rkey or
> > something in here ?
> 
> Ok.  But cap_rdma_read_rkey() doesn't really describe the
> requirement.  The requirement is rkey + REMOTE_WRITE.  So it is more
> like rdma_cap_read_requires_remote_write() which is ugly and too
> long (but descriptive)...

I don't care much what name you pick, just jam something like this in
the description

 If set then RDMA_READ must be performed by mapping the local
 buffers through a rkey MR with ACCESS_REMOTE_WRITE enabled.
 The rkey of this MR should be passed in as the sg_lists's lkey for
 IB_WR_RDMA_READ_WITH_INV.

 FRWR should be used to register the buffer in the send queue,
 and the read should be issued using IB_WR_RDMA_READ_WITH_INV (xx
 can we just implicitly rely on this? Are there any iWarp cards that
 support FRWR but not WITH_INV?)

 Finally, only a single SGE can be used with RDMA_READ, all scattering
 must be accomplished with the MR.

This quite dramatically changes what is an allowed scatter for the
transfer, IB can support arbitary unaligned S/G lists, while this is
now forced into gapless page aligned elements.

Your patch takes care of this? And only impacts IB?

Jason

  reply	other threads:[~2015-07-24 19:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-24 16:18 [PATCH V6 0/9] iSER support for iWARP Steve Wise
2015-07-24 16:18 ` Steve Wise
     [not found] ` <20150724161331.25617.8475.stgit-PBeJgSbIpn97NCTnQtmixQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-24 16:18   ` [PATCH V6 1/9] RDMA/iser: Limit sg tablesize and max_sectors to device fastreg max depth Steve Wise
2015-07-24 16:18     ` Steve Wise
     [not found]     ` <20150724161820.25617.63886.stgit-PBeJgSbIpn97NCTnQtmixQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-24 16:41       ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-24 16:41         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-24 18:40         ` Steve Wise
2015-07-24 18:40           ` Steve Wise
2015-07-24 19:14           ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-26  9:58             ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-07-26  9:57           ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-07-26  9:57             ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-07-24 16:18   ` [PATCH V6 2/9] mlx4, mlx5, mthca: Expose max_sge_rd correctly Steve Wise
2015-07-24 16:18     ` Steve Wise
2015-07-24 16:18   ` [PATCH V6 3/9] ipath,qib: " Steve Wise
2015-07-24 16:18     ` Steve Wise
2015-07-24 16:18   ` [PATCH V6 4/9] svcrdma: Use max_sge_rd for destination read depths Steve Wise
2015-07-24 16:18     ` Steve Wise
     [not found]     ` <20150724161837.25617.48584.stgit-PBeJgSbIpn97NCTnQtmixQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-24 18:51       ` Steve Wise
2015-07-24 18:51         ` Steve Wise
2015-07-26  9:58         ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]           ` <55B4AF63.3040108-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-26 10:42             ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-07-26 10:42               ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-07-24 16:18   ` [PATCH V6 6/9] isert: Rename IO functions to more descriptive names Steve Wise
2015-07-24 16:18     ` Steve Wise
     [not found]     ` <20150724161848.25617.26092.stgit-PBeJgSbIpn97NCTnQtmixQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-26 10:08       ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-07-26 10:08         ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]         ` <55B4B190.7070305-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-26 10:43           ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-07-26 10:43             ` Christoph Hellwig
     [not found]             ` <20150726104328.GB18944-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-26 11:00               ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-07-26 11:00                 ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-07-26 15:53                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2015-07-26 16:44                   ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]                 ` <55B4BDE3.8040801-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-26 17:32                   ` Steve Wise
2015-07-26 17:32                     ` Steve Wise
2015-07-26 17:40                     ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]                       ` <55B51B7A.8030008-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-26 20:15                         ` Steve Wise
2015-07-26 20:15                           ` Steve Wise
2015-07-26 20:17           ` Steve Wise
2015-07-26 20:17             ` Steve Wise
     [not found]             ` <55B5404F.5040404-7bPotxP6k4+P2YhJcF5u+vpXobYPEAuW@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-27 21:45               ` Steve Wise
2015-07-27 21:45                 ` Steve Wise
2015-08-03 19:32               ` Steve Wise
2015-08-03 19:32                 ` Steve Wise
2015-08-04 17:26                 ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]                   ` <55C0F5B7.4040100-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-04 17:44                     ` Steve Wise
2015-08-04 17:44                       ` Steve Wise
2015-08-05 21:23                   ` Steve Wise
2015-08-05 21:23                     ` Steve Wise
2015-08-06 15:37                     ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-08-06 15:37                       ` Sagi Grimberg
     [not found]                       ` <55C37F43.6080106-LDSdmyG8hGV8YrgS2mwiifqBs+8SCbDb@public.gmane.org>
2015-08-12 22:15                         ` Steve Wise
2015-08-12 22:15                           ` Steve Wise
2015-08-13 13:09                           ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-07-24 16:18 ` [PATCH V6 5/9] RDMA/isert: Limit read depth based on the device max_sge_rd capability Steve Wise
2015-07-24 16:18 ` [PATCH V6 7/9] isert: Use the device's max fastreg page list depth Steve Wise
2015-07-24 16:18 ` [PATCH V6 8/9] isert: Use local_dma_lkey whenever possible Steve Wise
     [not found]   ` <20150724161859.25617.17286.stgit-PBeJgSbIpn97NCTnQtmixQ@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-24 16:49     ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-24 16:49       ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]       ` <20150724164909.GB25480-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-24 18:41         ` Steve Wise
2015-07-24 18:41           ` Steve Wise
2015-07-24 16:19 ` [PATCH V6 9/9] isert: Support iWARP transports using FRMRs Steve Wise
2015-07-24 16:57   ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-24 18:48     ` Steve Wise
2015-07-24 18:48       ` Steve Wise
2015-07-24 19:24       ` Jason Gunthorpe [this message]
2015-07-24 19:24         ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-24 19:57         ` Steve Wise
2015-07-24 19:57           ` Steve Wise
2015-07-24 22:11           ` Steve Wise
2015-07-24 22:11             ` Steve Wise
2015-07-24 22:38             ` Jason Gunthorpe
2015-07-24 22:38               ` Jason Gunthorpe
     [not found]         ` <20150724192411.GC26225-ePGOBjL8dl3ta4EC/59zMFaTQe2KTcn/@public.gmane.org>
2015-07-26 10:23           ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-07-26 10:23             ` Sagi Grimberg
2015-07-27 17:07             ` Jason Gunthorpe

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