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From: Martin Jansa <martin.jansa@gmail.com>
To: Alexander Kanavin <alexander.kanavin@linux.intel.com>
Cc: OE Core mailing list <openembedded-core@lists.openembedded.org>
Subject: Re: meta-gplv2? [Was Re: parted_1.8.6.bb: add parted that not GPLv3]
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 2015 09:54:09 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20150818075409.GA2458@jama> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <55C4A405.6050209@linux.intel.com>

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On Fri, Aug 07, 2015 at 03:26:45PM +0300, Alexander Kanavin wrote:
> On 08/07/2015 12:17 PM, Philip Balister wrote:
> 
> > Thanks Khem. I also do not agree that we lack a self-sustaining
> > community. OpenEmbedded has functioned independently for far longer than
> > the Yocto Project has existed.
> 
> By 'self-sustaining' I mean 'being able to continuously produce quality 
> work'. Looking at layers in meta-openembedded, not all of them are of 
> high quality. Meta-gnome in particular is badly out of date, because no 
> one wants to maintain it properly. If oe-core starts taking a lot more 
> volunteer contributions, and the same thing happens (a volunteer 
> contributes a large set of recipes, then disappears), what is supposed 
> to happen then?

Having latest version of all recipes is good thing, but it's not the
best quality indicator.

In meta-oe and oe-classic package upgrades were usually done by people
who were actively using those recipes and only when the new version
introduced something they really needed or wanted. Still it was causing
new issues, because nobody can test every combination how something can
be used.

Now we see a lot of upgrades in oe-core which are done by people just
because "package upgrade report" says it's possible and the upgrade is
tested mostly by autobuilder (which doesn't exersize any "extra" layers
and runtime-test coverage is very low) - so in the end many of these
"good to have" upgrades are breaking some other components which aren't
upgraded so often or breaking/changing runtime behavior and only couple
months later someone who is actually using them will report that.

Regards,

-- 
Martin 'JaMa' Jansa     jabber: Martin.Jansa@gmail.com

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-08-18  7:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-07-09  7:14 [PATCH] parted_1.8.6.bb: add parted that not GPLv3 Lei Maohui
2015-07-09 11:33 ` alexander.kanavin
2015-07-09 11:38   ` Otavio Salvador
2015-07-10 22:31     ` Burton, Ross
2015-07-11  7:20       ` Andre McCurdy
2015-07-11  7:57         ` meta-gplv2? [Was Re: parted_1.8.6.bb: add parted that not GPLv3] Richard Purdie
2015-07-30 12:06           ` Alexander Kanavin
2015-07-30 23:14             ` Andre McCurdy
2015-07-31 11:41               ` Alexander Kanavin
2015-08-07  6:12                 ` Khem Raj
2015-08-07  9:17                   ` Philip Balister
2015-08-07 12:26                     ` Alexander Kanavin
2015-08-07 19:16                       ` Khem Raj
2015-08-08 17:09                       ` Philip Balister
2015-08-10 12:13                         ` Alexander Kanavin
2015-08-10 19:15                           ` Philip Balister
2015-08-11 13:26                             ` Alexander Kanavin
2015-08-11 15:46                               ` Khem Raj
2015-08-11 20:36                                 ` Burton, Ross
2015-08-11 20:46                                   ` Otavio Salvador
2015-08-13  8:42                                     ` Philip Balister
2015-08-13 14:29                                       ` Mark Hatle
2015-08-14  1:43                                       ` Andre McCurdy
2015-08-18  9:03                                       ` Martin Jansa
2015-08-18 10:11                                         ` Richard Purdie
2015-08-18 11:16                                           ` Martin Jansa
2015-08-18 11:27                                             ` Richard Purdie
2015-08-11 23:26                                   ` Khem Raj
2015-08-12 14:49                                   ` Mark Hatle
2015-08-13  9:59                                     ` Anders Darander
2015-08-18  7:54                       ` Martin Jansa [this message]
2015-08-18 11:12                         ` Alexander Kanavin
2015-08-07  6:10           ` Khem Raj
2015-07-10  3:20   ` [PATCH] parted_1.8.6.bb: add parted that not GPLv3 Lei, Maohui

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