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From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
To: Miroslav Benes <mbenes@suse.cz>
Cc: Chris J Arges <chris.j.arges@canonical.com>,
	live-patching@vger.kernel.org, jeyu@redhat.com,
	Seth Jennings <sjenning@redhat.com>,
	Jiri Kosina <jikos@kernel.org>, Vojtech Pavlik <vojtech@suse.com>,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] livepatch: old_name.number scheme in livepatch sysfs directory
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 10:03:54 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151104160354.GA29899@treble.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LNX.2.00.1511041047200.5621@pobox.suse.cz>

On Wed, Nov 04, 2015 at 10:52:52AM +0100, Miroslav Benes wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Nov 2015, Josh Poimboeuf wrote:
> > > Object entry would be empty for not loaded object. I would not 
> > > dare to propose to remove such object entries. It would make things worse. 
> > 
> > Why would removing an empty object entry make things worse?
> 
> I think it all comes down to a question whether the sysfs entries say what 
> a patch is capable to patch or what this patch is currently patching in 
> the system. I am inclined to the former so the removal would make me 
> nervous. But I am not against the second approach. We are still in testing 
> mode as far as sysfs is concerned so we can try even harsh changes and see 
> how it's gonna go.

I see your point.  This approach only describes what is patched now, but
it doesn't describe what *will* be patched.  Ideally we could find a way
to describe both.

Speaking of harsh changes, here's an idea.

What if we require the patch author to supply the value of 'n' instead
of supplying the symbol address?  We could get rid of 'old_addr' as an
input in klp_func and and replace it with 'old_sympos' which has the
value of 'n'.  Or alternatively we could require old_name to be of the
format "func,n".

That would uniquely identify each patched function, even _before_ the
object is loaded.

It would also fix another big problem we have today, where there's no
way to disambiguate duplicate symbols in modules, for both function
addresses and for relocs.

It would simplify the code in other places as well: no special handling
for kASLR, no need for klp_verify_vmlinux_symbol() vs
klp_find_object_symbol().

A drawback is that it requires the patch author to do a little more due
diligence when filling out klp_func.  But we already require them to be
careful.

Thoughts?

-- 
Josh

  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-04 16:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-02 17:58 [PATCH] livepatch: old_name.number scheme in livepatch sysfs directory Chris J Arges
2015-11-02 17:58 ` Chris J Arges
2015-11-02 19:15 ` Jessica Yu
2015-11-02 19:52 ` [PATCH] " Josh Poimboeuf
2015-11-02 19:52   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-11-02 20:16   ` Chris J Arges
2015-11-02 20:32     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-11-02 22:59       ` [PATCH v2] " Chris J Arges
2015-11-02 22:59         ` Chris J Arges
2015-11-03  9:50         ` Miroslav Benes
2015-11-03 15:03           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-11-03 10:52         ` Miroslav Benes
2015-11-03 10:52           ` Miroslav Benes
2015-11-03 12:44           ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-03 12:44             ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-03 15:03             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-11-03 15:03               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-11-03 19:57             ` Jiri Kosina
2015-11-03 19:57               ` Jiri Kosina
2015-11-03 20:06               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-11-03 20:06                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
     [not found]                 ` <1447259366-7055-1-git-send-email-chris.j.arges@canonical.com>
2015-11-11 16:28                   ` [PATCH 1/3 v4] livepatch: add old_sympos as disambiguator field to klp_func Chris J Arges
2015-11-11 17:43                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-11-12 10:22                     ` Miroslav Benes
2015-11-11 16:29                   ` [PATCH 2/3 v4] livepatch: add old_sympos as disambiguator field to klp_reloc Chris J Arges
2015-11-11 16:39                     ` Chris J Arges
2015-11-11 17:57                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-11-12 14:31                       ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-12 19:19                         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-11-13 13:54                           ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-13 16:59                             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-11-16 12:11                               ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-12 10:23                     ` Miroslav Benes
2015-11-11 16:29                   ` [PATCH 3/3 v4] livepatch: old_name,number scheme in livepatch sysfs directory Chris J Arges
2015-11-11 18:01                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-11-11 18:01                       ` Josh Poimboeuf
     [not found]                   ` <1447347595-30728-1-git-send-email-chris.j.arges@canonical.com>
2015-11-12 16:59                     ` [PATCH 1/4 v5] livepatch: add old_sympos as disambiguator field to klp_func Chris J Arges
2015-11-12 19:45                       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-11-13  9:56                       ` Jiri Kosina
2015-11-13 10:14                       ` Miroslav Benes
2015-11-13 16:27                       ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-12 16:59                     ` [PATCH 2/4 v5] livepatch: Simplify code for relocated external symbols Chris J Arges
2015-11-13 10:24                       ` Miroslav Benes
2015-11-13 13:55                         ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-12 16:59                     ` [PATCH 3/4 v5] livepatch: add sympos as disambiguator field to klp_reloc Chris J Arges
2015-11-12 19:50                       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-11-13 16:42                       ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-12 16:59                     ` [PATCH 4/4 v5] livepatch: function,sympos scheme in livepatch sysfs directory Chris J Arges
     [not found]                     ` <1447431804-18786-1-git-send-email-chris.j.arges@canonical.com>
2015-11-13 16:23                       ` [PATCH 1/3 v6] livepatch: add old_sympos as disambiguator field to klp_func Chris J Arges
2015-11-13 16:23                       ` [PATCH 2/3 v6] livepatch: add sympos as disambiguator field to klp_reloc Chris J Arges
2015-11-13 16:23                       ` [PATCH 3/3 v6] livepatch: function,sympos scheme in livepatch sysfs directory Chris J Arges
     [not found]                       ` <1447693391-10065-1-git-send-email-chris.j.arges@canonical.com>
2015-11-16 17:03                         ` [PATCH 1/3 v7] livepatch: add old_sympos as disambiguator field to klp_func Chris J Arges
2015-11-16 21:59                           ` Jiri Kosina
2015-11-17 14:29                             ` Chris J Arges
2015-11-19 10:02                               ` Jiri Kosina
2015-11-16 17:03                         ` [PATCH 2/3 v7] livepatch: add sympos as disambiguator field to klp_reloc Chris J Arges
2015-11-18  9:56                           ` Miroslav Benes
2015-11-18 14:01                             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-11-18 16:47                               ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 16:37                           ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 16:39                             ` Chris J Arges
2015-11-18 16:55                               ` Petr Mladek
2015-11-18 20:34                                 ` Jiri Kosina
2015-11-16 17:03                         ` [PATCH 3/3 v7] livepatch: function,sympos scheme in livepatch sysfs directory Chris J Arges
2015-11-20 17:25                         ` [PATCH 0/3 v8] livepatch: disambiguate symbols with the same name Chris J Arges
2015-11-20 17:25                           ` [PATCH 1/3 v8] livepatch: add old_sympos as disambiguator field to klp_func Chris J Arges
2015-11-23  9:47                             ` Miroslav Benes
2015-11-20 17:25                           ` [PATCH 2/3 v8] livepatch: add sympos as disambiguator field to klp_reloc Chris J Arges
2015-11-23  9:52                             ` Miroslav Benes
2015-11-30 20:46                               ` Chris J Arges
2015-12-01  1:17                                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-11-20 17:25                           ` [PATCH 3/3 v8] livepatch: function,sympos scheme in livepatch sysfs directory Chris J Arges
2015-11-23  9:47                             ` Miroslav Benes
2015-12-02  2:40                           ` [PATCH 0/3 v9] livepatch: disambiguate symbols with the same name Chris J Arges
2015-12-02  2:40                             ` [PATCH 1/3 v9] livepatch: add old_sympos as disambiguator field to klp_func Chris J Arges
2015-12-02  2:40                             ` [PATCH 2/3 v9] livepatch: add sympos as disambiguator field to klp_reloc Chris J Arges
2015-12-14 12:45                               ` Miroslav Benes
2015-12-02  2:40                             ` [PATCH 3/3 v9] livepatch: function,sympos scheme in livepatch sysfs directory Chris J Arges
2015-12-02 15:28                             ` [PATCH 0/3 v9] livepatch: disambiguate symbols with the same name Petr Mladek
2015-12-03 17:59                             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-12-03 22:04                             ` Jiri Kosina
2015-11-03 14:58           ` [PATCH v2] livepatch: old_name.number scheme in livepatch sysfs directory Josh Poimboeuf
2015-11-03 16:09             ` Miroslav Benes
2015-11-03 16:50               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-11-03 20:42                 ` Chris J Arges
2015-11-03 20:42                   ` Chris J Arges
2015-11-04  9:52                 ` Miroslav Benes
2015-11-04  9:52                   ` Miroslav Benes
2015-11-04 16:03                   ` Josh Poimboeuf [this message]
2015-11-04 16:17                     ` Chris J Arges
2015-11-04 16:17                       ` Chris J Arges
2015-11-05 15:18                     ` Miroslav Benes
2015-11-05 15:56                       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-11-05 16:07                         ` Chris J Arges
2015-11-09 16:16                         ` [PATCH v3] livepatch: old_name,number " Chris J Arges
2015-11-09 16:16                           ` Chris J Arges
2015-11-09 20:56                           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-11-09 23:01                             ` Chris J Arges
2015-11-09 23:01                               ` Chris J Arges
2015-11-10  4:54                               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-11-10  8:49                                 ` Miroslav Benes
2015-11-10 13:40                                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-11-10 13:40                                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2015-11-10  9:02                           ` Miroslav Benes

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