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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov@virtuozzo.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] memcg/kmem: switch to white list policy
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 11:45:18 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151109164518.GA23356@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151109140832.GE8916@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Mon, Nov 09, 2015 at 03:08:32PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> I am _all_ for this semantic I am just not sure what to do with the
> legacy kmem controller. Can we change its semantic? If we cannot do that
> we would have to distinguish legacy and unified hierarchies during
> runtime and add the flag automagically for the first one (that would
> however require to keep __GFP_NOACCOUNT as well) which is all as clear
> as mud. But maybe the workloads which are using kmem legacy API can cope
> with that.

I think we can make that change for the existing kmem accounting too,
simply because the whitelist should be covering all memory consumers
that actually matter for isolation in practice. Yes, there is a risk
for accidents, but we are not actually intending to change semantics.

> Anyway if we go this way then I think the kmem accounting would be safe
> to be enabled by default with the cgroup2.

Cool, I'm happy we're on the same page about this.

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From: Johannes Weiner <hannes@cmpxchg.org>
To: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
Cc: Vladimir Davydov <vdavydov@virtuozzo.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>, Greg Thelen <gthelen@google.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, cgroups@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/5] memcg/kmem: switch to white list policy
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 11:45:18 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20151109164518.GA23356@cmpxchg.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20151109140832.GE8916@dhcp22.suse.cz>

On Mon, Nov 09, 2015 at 03:08:32PM +0100, Michal Hocko wrote:
> I am _all_ for this semantic I am just not sure what to do with the
> legacy kmem controller. Can we change its semantic? If we cannot do that
> we would have to distinguish legacy and unified hierarchies during
> runtime and add the flag automagically for the first one (that would
> however require to keep __GFP_NOACCOUNT as well) which is all as clear
> as mud. But maybe the workloads which are using kmem legacy API can cope
> with that.

I think we can make that change for the existing kmem accounting too,
simply because the whitelist should be covering all memory consumers
that actually matter for isolation in practice. Yes, there is a risk
for accidents, but we are not actually intending to change semantics.

> Anyway if we go this way then I think the kmem accounting would be safe
> to be enabled by default with the cgroup2.

Cool, I'm happy we're on the same page about this.

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-11-09 16:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-11-07 20:07 [PATCH 0/5] memcg/kmem: switch to white list policy Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-07 20:07 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-07 20:07 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-07 20:07 ` [PATCH 1/5] Revert "kernfs: do not account ino_ida allocations to memcg" Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-07 20:07   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-07 20:07   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-07 20:07 ` [PATCH 2/5] Revert "gfp: add __GFP_NOACCOUNT" Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-07 20:07   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-07 20:07 ` [PATCH 3/5] memcg: only account kmem allocations marked as __GFP_ACCOUNT Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-07 20:07   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-07 20:07 ` [PATCH 4/5] vmalloc: allow to account vmalloc to memcg Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-07 20:07   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-07 20:07 ` [PATCH 5/5] Account certain kmem allocations " Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-07 20:07   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-09 14:39   ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-09 14:39     ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-10  8:07     ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-10  8:07       ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-10  8:07       ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-10 13:23       ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-10 13:23         ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-10 13:23         ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-09 14:08 ` [PATCH 0/5] memcg/kmem: switch to white list policy Michal Hocko
2015-11-09 14:08   ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-09 16:45   ` Johannes Weiner [this message]
2015-11-09 16:45     ` Johannes Weiner
2015-11-09 18:28   ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-09 18:28     ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-09 18:28     ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-09 18:54     ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-09 18:54       ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-09 19:27       ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-09 19:27         ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-09 19:27         ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-09 19:32         ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-09 19:32           ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-09 20:12           ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-09 20:12             ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-09 20:12             ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-09 20:30             ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-09 20:30               ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-09 20:30               ` Tejun Heo
2015-11-10  7:49               ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-10  7:49                 ` Vladimir Davydov
2015-11-11  8:12     ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-11  8:12       ` Michal Hocko
2015-11-11  8:12       ` Michal Hocko

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