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From: Brian Norris <computersforpeace@gmail.com>
To: Boris Brezillon <boris.brezillon@free-electrons.com>
Cc: David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	linux-mtd@lists.infradead.org,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 55/58] mtd: nand: add helpers to access ->priv
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 09:17:00 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160107171700.GE109450@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160107155237.7271aa7e@bbrezillon>

Hi Boris,

On Thu, Jan 07, 2016 at 03:52:37PM +0100, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Jan 2016 15:13:23 -0800
> Brian Norris <computersforpeace@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 04:01:24AM +0100, Boris Brezillon wrote:

> > > Now, the reason I explicitly specified the data usage instead of using
> > > a generic name like nand_{get,set}_data() is because I plan to define
> > 
> > I never suggested just "_data"; I said "_drvdata".
> 
> Not sure it clarifies the per-chip aspect ;), and driver is, IMHO, too
> generic: I also consider manufacturer specific code as drivers (but in
> this case they are chip drivers, not controller drivers).
> 
> How about nand_{get,set}_ctrldrvdata()?

That's just more confusing :)

> > 
> > > other helpers to allow NAND manufacturer code to manipulate its own
> > > private data. This is required if we want to support read-retry on some
> > > chips who are requiring a read OTP area step to retrieve some register
> > > values which will later be used to change from one read-retry mode to
> > > another.
> > > The plan was to define the nand_{set,get}_manufacturer_data() helpers,
> > > and create or reuse an existing priv field (mtd->priv?) to store this
> > > private data.

[...]

> > > Also note that the spi framework provides the same kind of helpers [1].
> > 
> > Hmm, OK. FWIW, they have both "driver data" and "controller state". It's
> > not perfectly clear to me why both exist.
> 
> Well, "driver data" in this case is the data used by the i2c device
> driver (the driver communicating with the device on the i2c bus), while
> the "controller state" is the per-device controller specific data.
> If we do the analogy with the NAND framework, I'd consider the
> "SPI controller state" as what I call here the "NAND controller per-chip
> data", and the "SPI driver data" as the "manufacturer data".
> 
> I know the names are not necessarily better in the SPI framework, but I
> think we should find names that describe as much as possible which
> data is used by which part of the code. 

Re-reviewing the SPI framework helpers suggests to me that their usage
scheme is actually not too bad. And it's actually pretty similar to your
current naming scheme.

> > > This being said, I'm perfectly fine changing the function names, but
> > > I'd like to replace it by something explicitly telling the user that
> > > this field should only be set by NAND controller drivers. 
> > 
> > Sure. I though a "driver data"-based name did this. But I'll leave it to
> > you. I could even be OK with "controller data", if you still think this
> > fits your overall controller refactoring plan, and communicates its
> > purpose best.
> 
> If you're OK with that I'd like to keep a name containing the
> 'controller' or 'ctrl' word in it:
> 1/ nand_{get,set}_controller_data() (the names originally proposed)
> 2/ nand_{get,set}_ctrldrv_data() or nand_{get,set}_ctrldrvdata()
> 
> What do you prefer?

I guess (1) is not that bad in the end. I at least prefer it to (2).
Sorry for the bikeshedding!

So are these last few patches still applicable as-is, or should I await
a new submission?

Thanks,
Brian

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From: computersforpeace@gmail.com (Brian Norris)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v4 55/58] mtd: nand: add helpers to access ->priv
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 09:17:00 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160107171700.GE109450@google.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160107155237.7271aa7e@bbrezillon>

Hi Boris,

On Thu, Jan 07, 2016 at 03:52:37PM +0100, Boris Brezillon wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Jan 2016 15:13:23 -0800
> Brian Norris <computersforpeace@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, Dec 19, 2015 at 04:01:24AM +0100, Boris Brezillon wrote:

> > > Now, the reason I explicitly specified the data usage instead of using
> > > a generic name like nand_{get,set}_data() is because I plan to define
> > 
> > I never suggested just "_data"; I said "_drvdata".
> 
> Not sure it clarifies the per-chip aspect ;), and driver is, IMHO, too
> generic: I also consider manufacturer specific code as drivers (but in
> this case they are chip drivers, not controller drivers).
> 
> How about nand_{get,set}_ctrldrvdata()?

That's just more confusing :)

> > 
> > > other helpers to allow NAND manufacturer code to manipulate its own
> > > private data. This is required if we want to support read-retry on some
> > > chips who are requiring a read OTP area step to retrieve some register
> > > values which will later be used to change from one read-retry mode to
> > > another.
> > > The plan was to define the nand_{set,get}_manufacturer_data() helpers,
> > > and create or reuse an existing priv field (mtd->priv?) to store this
> > > private data.

[...]

> > > Also note that the spi framework provides the same kind of helpers [1].
> > 
> > Hmm, OK. FWIW, they have both "driver data" and "controller state". It's
> > not perfectly clear to me why both exist.
> 
> Well, "driver data" in this case is the data used by the i2c device
> driver (the driver communicating with the device on the i2c bus), while
> the "controller state" is the per-device controller specific data.
> If we do the analogy with the NAND framework, I'd consider the
> "SPI controller state" as what I call here the "NAND controller per-chip
> data", and the "SPI driver data" as the "manufacturer data".
> 
> I know the names are not necessarily better in the SPI framework, but I
> think we should find names that describe as much as possible which
> data is used by which part of the code. 

Re-reviewing the SPI framework helpers suggests to me that their usage
scheme is actually not too bad. And it's actually pretty similar to your
current naming scheme.

> > > This being said, I'm perfectly fine changing the function names, but
> > > I'd like to replace it by something explicitly telling the user that
> > > this field should only be set by NAND controller drivers. 
> > 
> > Sure. I though a "driver data"-based name did this. But I'll leave it to
> > you. I could even be OK with "controller data", if you still think this
> > fits your overall controller refactoring plan, and communicates its
> > purpose best.
> 
> If you're OK with that I'd like to keep a name containing the
> 'controller' or 'ctrl' word in it:
> 1/ nand_{get,set}_controller_data() (the names originally proposed)
> 2/ nand_{get,set}_ctrldrv_data() or nand_{get,set}_ctrldrvdata()
> 
> What do you prefer?

I guess (1) is not that bad in the end. I at least prefer it to (2).
Sorry for the bikeshedding!

So are these last few patches still applicable as-is, or should I await
a new submission?

Thanks,
Brian

  reply	other threads:[~2016-01-07 17:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 243+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-12-10  7:59 [PATCH v4 00/58] mtd: nand: refactor the NAND subsystem (part 1) Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59 ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59 ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59 ` [PATCH v4 01/58] mtd: nand: denali: add missing nand_release() call in denali_remove() Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-11  0:40   ` Brian Norris
2015-12-11  0:40     ` Brian Norris
2015-12-11  0:40     ` Brian Norris
2015-12-11 13:53     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-11 13:53       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-11 13:53       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-11 14:39       ` Dan Carpenter
2015-12-11 14:39         ` Dan Carpenter
2015-12-11 14:39         ` Dan Carpenter
2015-12-11 15:15         ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-11 15:15           ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-11 15:15           ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-11 22:03     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-11 22:03       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-11 22:03       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-11 22:11       ` Brian Norris
2015-12-11 22:11         ` Brian Norris
2015-12-11 22:11         ` Brian Norris
2015-12-11 14:02   ` [PATCH v5 " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-11 14:02     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-11 14:02     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-11 15:10     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-11 15:10       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-11 15:10       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-11 16:50       ` Dinh Nguyen
2015-12-11 16:50         ` Dinh Nguyen
2015-12-11 16:50         ` Dinh Nguyen
2015-12-11 16:50         ` Dinh Nguyen
2015-12-11 17:08         ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-11 17:08           ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-11 17:08           ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-11 17:08           ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-11 17:21           ` Dinh Nguyen
2015-12-11 17:21             ` Dinh Nguyen
2015-12-11 17:21             ` Dinh Nguyen
2015-12-11 17:21             ` Dinh Nguyen
2015-12-10  7:59 ` [PATCH v4 02/58] mtd: nand: fsmc: create and use mtd_to_fsmc() Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59 ` [PATCH v4 03/58] mtd: nand: nuc900: create and use mtd_to_nuc900() Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59 ` [PATCH v4 04/58] mtd: nand: omap2: create and use mtd_to_omap() Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59 ` [PATCH v4 05/58] mtd: nand: ams-delta: use the mtd instance embedded in struct nand_chip Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59 ` [PATCH v4 06/58] mtd: nand: atmel: " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59 ` [PATCH v4 07/58] mtd: nand: au1550nd: " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59 ` [PATCH v4 08/58] mtd: nand: bcm47xx: " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59 ` [PATCH v4 09/58] mtd: nand: bf5xx: " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59 ` [PATCH v4 10/58] mtd: nand: brcm: " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59 ` [PATCH v4 11/58] mtd: nand: cafe: " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59 ` [PATCH v4 12/58] mtd: nand: cmx270: " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59 ` [PATCH v4 13/58] mtd: nand: cs553x: " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59 ` [PATCH v4 14/58] mtd: nand: davinci: " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59 ` [PATCH v4 15/58] mtd: nand: denali: " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  7:59   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-11 14:06   ` [PATCH v5 " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-11 14:06     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-11 14:06     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00 ` [PATCH v4 16/58] mtd: nand: diskonchip: " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00 ` [PATCH v4 17/58] mtd: nand: docg4: " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00 ` [PATCH v4 18/58] mtd: nand: fsl_elbc: " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00 ` [PATCH v4 19/58] mtd: nand: fsl_ifc: " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00 ` [PATCH v4 20/58] mtd: nand: fsl_upm: " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00 ` [PATCH v4 21/58] mtd: nand: fsmc: " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00 ` [PATCH v4 22/58] mtd: nand: gpio: " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00 ` [PATCH v4 23/58] mtd: nand: gpmi: " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00 ` [PATCH v4 24/58] mtd: nand: hisi504: " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00 ` [PATCH v4 25/58] mtd: nand: jz4740: " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00 ` [PATCH v4 26/58] mtd: nand: lpc32xx: " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00 ` [PATCH v4 27/58] mtd: nand: mpc5121: " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00 ` [PATCH v4 28/58] mtd: nand: mxc: " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00 ` [PATCH v4 29/58] mtd: nand: nandsim: " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00 ` [PATCH v4 30/58] mtd: nand: ndfc: " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00 ` [PATCH v4 31/58] mtd: nand: nuc900: " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00 ` [PATCH v4 32/58] mtd: nand: omap2: " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00 ` [PATCH v4 33/58] mtd: nand: orion: " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00 ` [PATCH v4 34/58] mtd: nand: pasemi: " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00 ` [PATCH v4 35/58] mtd: nand: plat: " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00 ` [PATCH v4 36/58] mtd: nand: pxa3xx: " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00 ` [PATCH v4 37/58] mtd: nand: r852: " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00 ` [PATCH v4 38/58] mtd: nand: s3c2410: " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-11  2:38   ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-12-11  2:38     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-12-11  2:38     ` Krzysztof Kozlowski
2015-12-10  8:00 ` [PATCH v4 39/58] mtd: nand: sh_flctl: " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00 ` [PATCH v4 40/58] mtd: nand: sharpsl: " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00 ` [PATCH v4 41/58] mtd: nand: socrates: " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-11 14:04   ` [PATCH v5 " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-11 14:04     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-11 14:04     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00 ` [PATCH v4 42/58] mtd: nand: sunxi: " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00 ` [PATCH v4 43/58] mtd: nand: tmio: " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00 ` [PATCH v4 44/58] mtd: nand: txx9ndfmc: " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00 ` [PATCH v4 45/58] mtd: nand: vf610: " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00 ` [PATCH v4 46/58] mtd: nand: update the documentation to reflect framework changes Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00 ` [PATCH v4 47/58] staging: mt29f_spinand: use the mtd instance embedded in struct nand_chip Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00 ` [PATCH v4 48/58] cris: nand: " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00 ` [PATCH v4 49/58] mtd: nand: update mtd_to_nand() Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00 ` [PATCH v4 50/58] mtd: nand: remove useless mtd->priv = chip assignments Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00 ` [PATCH v4 51/58] cris: " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00 ` [PATCH v4 52/58] staging: mt29f_spinand: remove useless mtd->priv = chip assignment Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00 ` [PATCH v4 53/58] mtd: nand: simplify nand_dt_init() usage Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00 ` [PATCH v4 54/58] mtd: nand: kill the chip->flash_node field Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00 ` [PATCH v4 55/58] mtd: nand: add helpers to access ->priv Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-18 22:17   ` Brian Norris
2015-12-18 22:17     ` Brian Norris
2015-12-18 22:17     ` Brian Norris
2015-12-19  3:01     ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-19  3:01       ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-19  3:01       ` Boris Brezillon
2016-01-06 23:13       ` Brian Norris
2016-01-06 23:13         ` Brian Norris
2016-01-06 23:13         ` Brian Norris
2016-01-07 14:52         ` Boris Brezillon
2016-01-07 14:52           ` Boris Brezillon
2016-01-07 14:52           ` Boris Brezillon
2016-01-07 17:17           ` Brian Norris [this message]
2016-01-07 17:17             ` Brian Norris
2016-01-07 17:17             ` Brian Norris
     [not found]             ` <20160107182140.02111dc1@bbrezillon>
2016-01-07 18:27               ` Brian Norris
2016-01-07 18:27                 ` Brian Norris
2015-12-10  8:00 ` [PATCH v4 56/58] ARM: make use of nand_set/get_controller_data() helpers Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00 ` [PATCH v4 57/58] mtd: nand: " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00 ` [PATCH v4 58/58] staging: mt29f_spinand: " Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-10  8:00   ` Boris Brezillon
2015-12-18 22:03 ` [PATCH v4 00/58] mtd: nand: refactor the NAND subsystem (part 1) Brian Norris
2015-12-18 22:03   ` Brian Norris
2015-12-18 22:03   ` Brian Norris
2015-12-18 22:03   ` Brian Norris

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