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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@kvack.org>,
	linux-aio@kvack.org,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/13] aio: add support for async openat()
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 10:53:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160112095319.GA20597@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFw8j_3Vkb=HVoMwWTPD=5ve8RpNZeL31CcKQZ+HRSbfTA@mail.gmail.com>


* Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> What do you think? Do you think it might be possible to aim for a generic "do 
> system call asynchronously" model instead?
> 
> I'm adding Ingo the to cc, because I think Ingo had a "run this list of system 
> calls" patch at one point - in order to avoid system call overhead. I don't 
> think that was very interesting (because system call overhead is seldom all that 
> noticeable for any interesting system calls), but with the "let's do the list 
> asynchronously" addition it might be much more intriguing. Ingo, do I remember 
> correctly that it was you? I might be confused about who wrote that patch, and I 
> can't find it now.

Yeah, it was the whole 'syslets' and 'threadlets' stuff - I had both implemented 
and prototyped into a 'list directory entries asynchronously' testcase.

Threadlets was pretty close to what you are suggesting now. Here's a very good (as 
usual!) writeup from LWN:

  https://lwn.net/Articles/223899/

Thanks,

	Ingo

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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@kvack.org>,
	linux-aio@kvack.org,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/13] aio: add support for async openat()
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 10:53:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160112095319.GA20597@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFw8j_3Vkb=HVoMwWTPD=5ve8RpNZeL31CcKQZ+HRSbfTA@mail.gmail.com>


* Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> What do you think? Do you think it might be possible to aim for a generic "do 
> system call asynchronously" model instead?
> 
> I'm adding Ingo the to cc, because I think Ingo had a "run this list of system 
> calls" patch at one point - in order to avoid system call overhead. I don't 
> think that was very interesting (because system call overhead is seldom all that 
> noticeable for any interesting system calls), but with the "let's do the list 
> asynchronously" addition it might be much more intriguing. Ingo, do I remember 
> correctly that it was you? I might be confused about who wrote that patch, and I 
> can't find it now.

Yeah, it was the whole 'syslets' and 'threadlets' stuff - I had both implemented 
and prototyped into a 'list directory entries asynchronously' testcase.

Threadlets was pretty close to what you are suggesting now. Here's a very good (as 
usual!) writeup from LWN:

  https://lwn.net/Articles/223899/

Thanks,

	Ingo

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From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Cc: Benjamin LaHaise <bcrl@kvack.org>,
	linux-aio@kvack.org,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 09/13] aio: add support for async openat()
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2016 10:53:19 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160112095319.GA20597@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CA+55aFw8j_3Vkb=HVoMwWTPD=5ve8RpNZeL31CcKQZ+HRSbfTA@mail.gmail.com>


* Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org> wrote:

> What do you think? Do you think it might be possible to aim for a generic "do 
> system call asynchronously" model instead?
> 
> I'm adding Ingo the to cc, because I think Ingo had a "run this list of system 
> calls" patch at one point - in order to avoid system call overhead. I don't 
> think that was very interesting (because system call overhead is seldom all that 
> noticeable for any interesting system calls), but with the "let's do the list 
> asynchronously" addition it might be much more intriguing. Ingo, do I remember 
> correctly that it was you? I might be confused about who wrote that patch, and I 
> can't find it now.

Yeah, it was the whole 'syslets' and 'threadlets' stuff - I had both implemented 
and prototyped into a 'list directory entries asynchronously' testcase.

Threadlets was pretty close to what you are suggesting now. Here's a very good (as 
usual!) writeup from LWN:

  https://lwn.net/Articles/223899/

Thanks,

	Ingo

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-01-12  9:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 133+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-11 22:06 [PATCH 00/13] aio: thread (work queue) based aio and new aio functionality Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-11 22:06 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-11 22:06 ` [PATCH 01/13] signals: distinguish signals sent due to i/o via io_send_sig() Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-11 22:06   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-11 22:06   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-11 22:06 ` [PATCH 02/13] aio: add aio_get_mm() helper Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-11 22:06   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-11 22:06   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-11 22:06 ` [PATCH 03/13] aio: for async operations, make the iter argument persistent Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-11 22:06   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-11 22:06   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-11 22:07 ` [PATCH 04/13] signals: add and use aio_get_task() to direct signals sent via io_send_sig() Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-11 22:07   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-11 22:07   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-11 22:07 ` [PATCH 05/13] fs: make do_loop_readv_writev() non-static Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-11 22:07   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-11 22:07   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-11 22:07 ` [PATCH 06/13] aio: add queue_work() based threaded aio support Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-11 22:07   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-11 22:07   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-11 22:07 ` [PATCH 07/13] aio: enabled thread based async fsync Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-11 22:07   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-11 22:07   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-12  1:11   ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-12  1:11     ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-12  1:20     ` Linus Torvalds
2016-01-12  1:20       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-01-12  2:25       ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-12  2:25         ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-12  2:25         ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-12  2:38         ` Linus Torvalds
2016-01-12  2:38           ` Linus Torvalds
2016-01-12  3:37           ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-12  3:37             ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-12  4:03             ` Linus Torvalds
2016-01-12  4:03               ` Linus Torvalds
2016-01-12  4:48               ` Linus Torvalds
2016-01-12  4:48                 ` Linus Torvalds
2016-01-12 22:50                 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-12 22:50                   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-12 22:50                   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-15 20:21                 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-15 20:21                   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-15 20:21                   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-20  3:59                   ` Linus Torvalds
2016-01-20  3:59                     ` Linus Torvalds
2016-01-20  3:59                     ` Linus Torvalds
2016-01-20  5:02                     ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-01-20  5:02                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-01-20  5:02                       ` Theodore Ts'o
2016-01-20 19:59                     ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-20 19:59                       ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-20 19:59                       ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-20 20:29                       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-01-20 20:29                         ` Linus Torvalds
2016-01-20 20:44                         ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-20 20:44                           ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-20 20:44                           ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-20 21:45                           ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-20 21:45                             ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-20 21:56                             ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-20 21:56                               ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-20 21:56                               ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-23  4:24                               ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-23  4:24                                 ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-23  4:50                                 ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-23  4:50                                   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-23  4:50                                   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-23 22:22                                   ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-23 22:22                                     ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-23 22:22                                     ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-20 23:07                             ` Linus Torvalds
2016-01-23  4:39                               ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-23  4:39                                 ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-23  4:39                                 ` Dave Chinner
2016-03-14 17:17                                 ` aio openat " Benjamin LaHaise
2016-03-14 17:17                                   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-03-20  1:20                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-20  1:20                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-20  1:26                                     ` Al Viro
2016-03-20  1:26                                       ` Al Viro
2016-03-20  1:26                                       ` Al Viro
2016-03-20  1:45                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-20  1:45                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-20  1:45                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-20  1:55                                         ` Al Viro
2016-03-20  1:55                                           ` Al Viro
2016-03-20  2:03                                           ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-20  2:03                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2016-03-20  2:03                                             ` Linus Torvalds
2016-01-20 21:57                         ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-20 21:57                           ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-20 21:57                           ` Dave Chinner
2016-01-22 15:41                     ` Andres Freund
2016-01-22 15:41                       ` Andres Freund
2016-01-12 22:59               ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-01-12 22:59                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-01-12 22:59                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2016-01-14  9:19       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-01-14  9:19         ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-01-14  9:19         ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-01-12  1:30     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-12  1:30       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-12  1:30       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-22 15:31     ` Andres Freund
2016-01-22 15:31       ` Andres Freund
2016-01-22 15:31       ` Andres Freund
2016-01-11 22:07 ` [PATCH 08/13] aio: add support for aio poll via aio thread helper Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-11 22:07   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-11 22:07 ` [PATCH 09/13] aio: add support for async openat() Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-11 22:07   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-11 22:07   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-12  0:22   ` Linus Torvalds
2016-01-12  0:22     ` Linus Torvalds
2016-01-12  1:17     ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-12  1:17       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-12  1:17       ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-12  1:45     ` Chris Mason
2016-01-12  1:45       ` Chris Mason
2016-01-12  1:45       ` Chris Mason
2016-01-12  9:53     ` Ingo Molnar [this message]
2016-01-12  9:53       ` Ingo Molnar
2016-01-12  9:53       ` Ingo Molnar
2016-01-11 22:07 ` [PATCH 10/13] aio: add async unlinkat functionality Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-11 22:07   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-11 22:07   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-11 22:07 ` [PATCH 11/13] mm: enable __do_page_cache_readahead() to include present pages Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-11 22:07   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-11 22:07 ` [PATCH 12/13] aio: add support for aio readahead Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-11 22:07   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-11 22:08 ` [PATCH 13/13] aio: add support for aio renameat operation Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-11 22:08   ` Benjamin LaHaise
2016-01-11 22:08   ` Benjamin LaHaise

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