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From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
To: "Denis V. Lunev" <den@virtuozzo.com>
Cc: kwolf@redhat.com,
	Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>,
	Fam Zheng <famz@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, armbru@redhat.com, jsnow@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/6] external backup api
Date: Wed, 10 Feb 2016 10:10:04 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160210101004.GB7317@stefanha-x1.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56B9FAAE.8040503@virtuozzo.com>

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On Tue, Feb 09, 2016 at 05:41:50PM +0300, Denis V. Lunev wrote:
> On 02/09/2016 05:28 PM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> >On Fri, Feb 05, 2016 at 11:28:42AM +0300, Denis V. Lunev wrote:
> >>On 02/03/2016 11:14 AM, Fam Zheng wrote:
> >>>On Sat, 01/30 13:56, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
> >>>>Hi all.
> >>>>
> >>>>These series which aims to add external backup api. This is needed to allow
> >>>>backup software use our dirty bitmaps.
> >>>>
> >>>>Vmware and Parallels Cloud Server have this feature.
> >>>What is the advantage of this appraoch over "drive-backup sync=incremental
> >>>..."?
> >>This will allow third-party vendors to backup QEMU VMs into
> >>their own formats or to the cloud etc.
> >As an example, there is a third-party backup format called VMA from
> >Proxmox.  A few years ago I posted a proof-of-concept external backup
> >tool in Python:
> >
> >https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2013-03/msg01536.html
> >
> >It takes a full backup using drive-backup NBD (plus RAM/device state)
> >but the same can be done with incremental backups.
> >
> >Does this NBD approach meet your requirements?
> >
> >Stefan
> for us we should somehow provide implementation of
> calls posted by Vladimir. They are available in Parallels Server
> version 6 and should be available in the next QEMU based
> release using "Parallels SDK to libvirt" convertor. The problem
> for us is that this old approach is used in the other side
> of the product - in containers implementation while this
> SDK is a universal access tool to both things.

Point taken.  I think many other backup applications will expect a
similar API, so it's pragmatic to provide something compatible.

Stefan

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-10 10:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-30 10:56 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/6] external backup api Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-01-30 10:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/6] block dirty bitmap: add next_zero function Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-01-30 10:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/6] qmp: add query-block-dirty-bitmap-ranges Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-02-10 10:08   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2016-02-10 13:57     ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-02-10 15:26       ` John Snow
2016-02-10 15:36         ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-02-10 15:37           ` John Snow
2016-02-10 15:40             ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-02-14  5:05       ` Fam Zheng
2016-01-30 10:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/6] iotests: test query-block-dirty-bitmap-ranges Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-01-30 10:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/6] qapi: add qmp commands for some dirty bitmap functions Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-01-30 10:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/6] qapi: make block-dirty-bitmap-create-successor transaction-able Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-01-30 10:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/6] iotests: test external backup api Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-02-03  8:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 0/6] " Fam Zheng
2016-02-03 10:57   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-02-03 11:02     ` Fam Zheng
2016-02-03 11:24       ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-02-05  8:28   ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-02-05  8:44     ` Fam Zheng
2016-02-09 14:21     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2016-02-09 14:37       ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-02-09 16:49         ` John Snow
2016-02-09 16:58           ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-02-09 18:12             ` John Snow
2016-02-09 19:25               ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-02-10  8:04                 ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-02-09 14:28     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2016-02-09 14:41       ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-02-10 10:10         ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2016-02-16 17:09           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2016-02-16 17:17             ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-02-16 17:20             ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-02-18 16:39               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2016-02-18 17:07                 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-02-17 17:47             ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
2016-02-18  0:59               ` Fam Zheng
2016-02-18 12:11               ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-02-18 16:41                 ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2016-02-19  2:08                   ` Fam Zheng
2016-02-19  8:51                     ` Markus Armbruster
2016-02-24 23:34                       ` John Snow
2016-02-26 19:55                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-02-26 20:03                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-02-26 20:29                           ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-02-26 21:37                           ` John Snow
2016-02-26 20:40                         ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-02-27  4:26                           ` Fam Zheng
2016-02-29  8:14                         ` Markus Armbruster
2016-02-29  8:54                           ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-02-29  9:42                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-02-29 10:05                               ` Fam Zheng
2016-03-10 17:37                               ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2016-03-10 17:40                                 ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-03-14 16:27                                   ` Denis V. Lunev
2016-02-29 10:22                           ` Markus Armbruster

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