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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org, xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] DAX bdev fixes - move flushing calls to FS
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2016 07:50:49 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160211205049.GJ19486@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160211194922.GA5260@linux.intel.com>

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 12:49:22PM -0700, Ross Zwisler wrote:
> I think the plan of unsetting S_DAX on bdev->bd_inode when we mount will save
> us from this, as long as we do it super early in the mount process.

I think that S_DAX should not be set on the block device by default
in the first place. If we've been surprised by unexpected behaviour,
then I'm sure there are going to be other surprises waiting for us.
DAX default policy should be opt-in, not opt-out.

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

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From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, "Theodore Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-nvdimm@ml01.01.org, xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] DAX bdev fixes - move flushing calls to FS
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2016 07:50:49 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160211205049.GJ19486@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160211194922.GA5260@linux.intel.com>

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 12:49:22PM -0700, Ross Zwisler wrote:
> I think the plan of unsetting S_DAX on bdev->bd_inode when we mount will save
> us from this, as long as we do it super early in the mount process.

I think that S_DAX should not be set on the block device by default
in the first place. If we've been surprised by unexpected behaviour,
then I'm sure there are going to be other surprises waiting for us.
DAX default policy should be opt-in, not opt-out.

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>
To: Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>,
	Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Theodore Ts'o <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Andreas Dilger <adilger.kernel@dilger.ca>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>, Jan Kara <jack@suse.com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <willy@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org, linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org, xfs@oss.sgi.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/2] DAX bdev fixes - move flushing calls to FS
Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2016 07:50:49 +1100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160211205049.GJ19486@dastard> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160211194922.GA5260@linux.intel.com>

On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 12:49:22PM -0700, Ross Zwisler wrote:
> I think the plan of unsetting S_DAX on bdev->bd_inode when we mount will save
> us from this, as long as we do it super early in the mount process.

I think that S_DAX should not be set on the block device by default
in the first place. If we've been surprised by unexpected behaviour,
then I'm sure there are going to be other surprises waiting for us.
DAX default policy should be opt-in, not opt-out.

Cheers,

Dave.
-- 
Dave Chinner
david@fromorbit.com

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-11 20:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-10 20:48 [PATCH v2 0/2] DAX bdev fixes - move flushing calls to FS Ross Zwisler
2016-02-10 20:48 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-10 20:48 ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-10 20:48 ` [PATCH v2 1/2] dax: supply DAX clearing code with correct bdev Ross Zwisler
2016-02-10 20:48   ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-10 20:48   ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-10 20:48 ` [PATCH v2 2/2] dax: move writeback calls into the filesystems Ross Zwisler
2016-02-10 20:48   ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-10 20:48   ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-10 22:03   ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-10 22:03     ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-10 22:03     ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-10 22:43     ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-10 22:43       ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-10 22:43       ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-10 23:44       ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-10 23:44         ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-10 23:44         ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-11 12:50       ` Jan Kara
2016-02-11 12:50         ` Jan Kara
2016-02-11 12:50         ` Jan Kara
2016-02-11 15:22         ` Dan Williams
2016-02-11 15:22           ` Dan Williams
2016-02-11 15:22           ` Dan Williams
2016-02-11 15:22           ` Dan Williams
2016-02-11 16:22           ` Jan Kara
2016-02-11 16:22             ` Jan Kara
2016-02-11 16:22             ` Jan Kara
2016-02-11 16:22             ` Jan Kara
2016-02-11 20:46           ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-11 20:46             ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-11 20:46             ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-11 20:46             ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-11 20:58             ` Dan Williams
2016-02-11 20:58               ` Dan Williams
2016-02-11 20:58               ` Dan Williams
2016-02-11 20:58               ` Dan Williams
2016-02-11 22:46               ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-11 22:46                 ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-11 22:46                 ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-11 22:59                 ` Dan Williams
2016-02-11 22:59                   ` Dan Williams
2016-02-11 22:59                   ` Dan Williams
2016-02-11 23:44                   ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-11 23:44                     ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-11 23:44                     ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-11 12:43 ` [PATCH v2 0/2] DAX bdev fixes - move flushing calls to FS Jan Kara
2016-02-11 12:43   ` Jan Kara
2016-02-11 12:43   ` Jan Kara
2016-02-11 19:49   ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-11 19:49     ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-11 19:49     ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-11 19:49     ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-11 20:50     ` Dave Chinner [this message]
2016-02-11 20:50       ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-11 20:50       ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-12 19:03   ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-12 19:03     ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-12 19:03     ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-12 19:03     ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-13  2:38     ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-13  2:38       ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-13  2:38       ` Dave Chinner
2016-02-13  4:59       ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-13  4:59         ` Ross Zwisler
2016-02-13  4:59         ` Ross Zwisler

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