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From: Andy Gospodarek <gospo@cumulusnetworks.com>
To: John Fastabend <john.fastabend@gmail.com>
Cc: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, davem@davemloft.net, idosch@mellanox.com,
	eladr@mellanox.com, yotamg@mellanox.com, ogerlitz@mellanox.com,
	yishaih@mellanox.com, dledford@redhat.com, sean.hefty@intel.com,
	hal.rosenstock@gmail.com, eugenia@mellanox.com,
	roopa@cumulusnetworks.com, nikolay@cumulusnetworks.com,
	hadarh@mellanox.com, jhs@mojatatu.com,
	jeffrey.t.kirsher@intel.com, brouer@redhat.com,
	ivecera@redhat.com, rami.rosen@intel.com
Subject: Re: [patch net-next 6/9] mlxsw: spectrum: Unmap local port from module during teardown
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2016 23:50:34 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160223045033.GO33942@gospo.home.greyhouse.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <56CB706F.3000301@gmail.com>

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 12:32:47PM -0800, John Fastabend wrote:
> On 16-02-22 10:32 AM, Jiri Pirko wrote:
> > From: Ido Schimmel <idosch@mellanox.com>
> > 
> > When splitting a port we replace it with 2 or 4 other ports. To be able
> > to do that we need to remove the original port netdev and unmap it from
> > its module. However, we first mark it as disabled, as active ports
> > cannot be unmapped.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Ido Schimmel <idosch@mellanox.com>
> > Signed-off-by: Jiri Pirko <jiri@mellanox.com>
> > ---
> 
> Hi Jiri, Ido,
> 
> You've sort of lost me on this port splitting/unsplitting thread. What
> does this actually do? Are you just creating two netdevs and LAGing them
> in the hardware, I'm guessing not or you wouldn't have some device API
> for it and would do it using normal methods.
> 
> If its something to do with physical layout of the board itself why
> don't you trigger this based on some init time introspection or an
> interrupt if someone plugs in a port splitting cable/module (does that
> exist?).

In some implementations there are interrupts that fire when modules are
connected or removed.  Even if an interrupt doesn't fire, it would be
possible to have a timer event/workqueue in a driver that could read
QFSP VPD information periodically to note that something has changed in
the hardware and reconfigure as needed.  I actually would perfer keying
on something like that to perform a configuration change like rather
than requiring the user configure it.

Today you have to swap a 4x10GbE for a 1x40GbE module and then
performing significant software config (possibly flashing EEPROMs in the
case of some NICs) each time.  That seems too error prone as a user
could swap out a QSFP on what they think is one port on a switch and
then perform a software change on another port without realizing it.

That accidental disruption seems less tolerable than the one where there
wrong physical port was added and removed and config needs to be
applied.  Network management apps can properly solve the problem where
devices come and go accidently due to connecting the wrong QSFP, so that
seems like a less critical use-case to handle than what I described
above.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-02-23  4:50 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-02-22 18:31 [patch net-next 0/9] Introduce devlink interface and first drivers to use it Jiri Pirko
2016-02-22 18:31 ` [patch net-next 1/9] Introduce devlink infrastructure Jiri Pirko
2016-02-22 22:29   ` roopa
2016-02-23  7:47     ` Jiri Pirko
2016-02-24  7:02   ` Yuval Mintz
2016-02-24 10:56     ` Jiri Pirko
2016-02-22 18:31 ` [patch net-next 2/9] mlx4: Implement devlink interface Jiri Pirko
2016-02-22 18:31 ` [patch net-next 3/9] mlx4: Implement port type setting via " Jiri Pirko
2016-02-23 11:26   ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-02-23 12:21     ` Jiri Pirko
2016-02-23 13:28       ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-02-23 14:26         ` Jiri Pirko
2016-02-23 15:16           ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-02-23 15:30             ` Jiri Pirko
2016-02-23 15:57               ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-02-23 16:04                 ` Jiri Pirko
2016-02-23 16:45                   ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-02-23 16:55                     ` Jiri Pirko
2016-02-23 17:07                       ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-02-23 15:20           ` Andy Gospodarek
2016-02-23 15:31             ` Jiri Pirko
2016-02-23 18:16       ` David Miller
2016-02-23 17:31     ` Stephen Hemminger
2016-02-24  7:15       ` Jiri Pirko
2016-02-22 18:31 ` [patch net-next 4/9] mlxsw: Implement " Jiri Pirko
2016-02-22 18:32 ` [patch net-next 5/9] mlxsw: core: Add devlink port splitter callbacks Jiri Pirko
2016-02-22 18:32 ` [patch net-next 6/9] mlxsw: spectrum: Unmap local port from module during teardown Jiri Pirko
2016-02-22 20:32   ` John Fastabend
2016-02-22 21:00     ` Ido Schimmel
2016-02-22 21:08       ` John Fastabend
2016-02-23  4:50     ` Andy Gospodarek [this message]
2016-02-22 18:32 ` [patch net-next 7/9] mlxsw: spectrum: Store local port to module mapping during init Jiri Pirko
2016-02-22 18:32 ` [patch net-next 8/9] mlxsw: spectrum: Mark unused ports using NULL Jiri Pirko
2016-02-22 18:32 ` [patch net-next 9/9] mlxsw: spectrum: Introduce port splitting Jiri Pirko
2016-02-23  5:12 ` [patch net-next 0/9] Introduce devlink interface and first drivers to use it Andy Gospodarek
2016-02-23  7:32   ` Jiri Pirko
2016-02-23 14:34     ` Andy Gospodarek
2016-02-23 14:45       ` Jiri Pirko
2016-02-23 15:55         ` Andy Gospodarek
2016-02-23 16:01           ` Jiri Pirko
2016-02-23 16:19             ` Andy Gospodarek
2016-02-23 16:23               ` Jiri Pirko

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