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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: "Gabriel L. Somlo" <somlo@cmu.edu>
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	pawel.moll@arm.com, mark.rutland@arm.com,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 1/4] firmware: introduce sysfs driver for QEMU's fw_cfg device
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 07:07:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160223070541-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160222202623.GI16357@HEDWIG.INI.CMU.EDU>

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 03:26:23PM -0500, Gabriel L. Somlo wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:14:50PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 08:06:17AM -0500, Gabriel L. Somlo wrote:
> > > > > +static void fw_cfg_io_cleanup(void)
> > > > > +{
> > > > > +	if (fw_cfg_is_mmio) {
> > > > > +		iounmap(fw_cfg_dev_base);
> > > > > +		release_mem_region(fw_cfg_p_base, fw_cfg_p_size);
> > > > > +	} else {
> > > > > +		ioport_unmap(fw_cfg_dev_base);
> > > > > +		release_region(fw_cfg_p_base, fw_cfg_p_size);
> > > > > +	}
> > > > > +}
> > > > > +
> > > > > +/* arch-specific ctrl & data register offsets are not available in ACPI, DT */
> > > > 
> > > > So for all arches which support ACPI, I think this driver
> > > > should just rely on ACPI.
> > > 
> > > There was a discussion about that a few versions ago, and IIRC the
> > > conclusion was not to expect the firmware to contend for fw_cfg access
> > > after the guest kernel boots:
> > > 
> > > https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/10/5/283
> > > 
> > 
> > So it looks like NVDIMM at least wants to pass label data to guest -
> > for which fw cfg might be a reasonable choice.
> > 
> > I suspect things changed - fw cfg used to be very slow but we now have
> > DMA interface which makes it useful for a range of applications.

Comment on this? I'm really worried we'll release linux
without a way to access fw cfg from aml.
How about taking acpi lock around all accesses?

> > > (I even had a prototype version doing what you suggested, but per the above
> > > reference decided to drop it -- which IMHO is for the better, since otherwise
> > > I'd have had to ifdef between ACPI and non-ACPI versions of the driver --
> > > see https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/11/4/534 )
> > 
> > I'm not sure why you have these ifdefs - they are on the host, are they
> > not?
> 
> Think of those as "pseudocode" ifdefs, they're there to distinguish
> between AML that would be generated on MMIO vs. IOPORT systems
> (specifically, arm vs. x86, respectively)
> 
> Some of the AML is the same, but obviously the _CRS, and
> OperationRegion + Field are different, and I wanted to point that out
> somehow :)
> 
> Cheers,
> --Gabriel

You can do ifs as well.

-- 
MST

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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: "Gabriel L. Somlo" <somlo-D+Gtc/HYRWM@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v8 1/4] firmware: introduce sysfs driver for QEMU's fw_cfg device
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 07:07:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160223070541-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160222202623.GI16357-h65ZQ0r4j6KKUezXOiBB2eW1CriLhL8O@public.gmane.org>

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 03:26:23PM -0500, Gabriel L. Somlo wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:14:50PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 08:06:17AM -0500, Gabriel L. Somlo wrote:
> > > > > +static void fw_cfg_io_cleanup(void)
> > > > > +{
> > > > > +	if (fw_cfg_is_mmio) {
> > > > > +		iounmap(fw_cfg_dev_base);
> > > > > +		release_mem_region(fw_cfg_p_base, fw_cfg_p_size);
> > > > > +	} else {
> > > > > +		ioport_unmap(fw_cfg_dev_base);
> > > > > +		release_region(fw_cfg_p_base, fw_cfg_p_size);
> > > > > +	}
> > > > > +}
> > > > > +
> > > > > +/* arch-specific ctrl & data register offsets are not available in ACPI, DT */
> > > > 
> > > > So for all arches which support ACPI, I think this driver
> > > > should just rely on ACPI.
> > > 
> > > There was a discussion about that a few versions ago, and IIRC the
> > > conclusion was not to expect the firmware to contend for fw_cfg access
> > > after the guest kernel boots:
> > > 
> > > https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/10/5/283
> > > 
> > 
> > So it looks like NVDIMM at least wants to pass label data to guest -
> > for which fw cfg might be a reasonable choice.
> > 
> > I suspect things changed - fw cfg used to be very slow but we now have
> > DMA interface which makes it useful for a range of applications.

Comment on this? I'm really worried we'll release linux
without a way to access fw cfg from aml.
How about taking acpi lock around all accesses?

> > > (I even had a prototype version doing what you suggested, but per the above
> > > reference decided to drop it -- which IMHO is for the better, since otherwise
> > > I'd have had to ifdef between ACPI and non-ACPI versions of the driver --
> > > see https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/11/4/534 )
> > 
> > I'm not sure why you have these ifdefs - they are on the host, are they
> > not?
> 
> Think of those as "pseudocode" ifdefs, they're there to distinguish
> between AML that would be generated on MMIO vs. IOPORT systems
> (specifically, arm vs. x86, respectively)
> 
> Some of the AML is the same, but obviously the _CRS, and
> OperationRegion + Field are different, and I wanted to point that out
> somehow :)
> 
> Cheers,
> --Gabriel

You can do ifs as well.

-- 
MST

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
To: "Gabriel L. Somlo" <somlo@cmu.edu>
Cc: mark.rutland@arm.com, peter.maydell@linaro.org,
	matt@codeblueprint.co.uk, stefanha@gmail.com,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, eric@anholt.net, kraxel@redhat.com,
	linux-api@vger.kernel.org, agross@codeaurora.org,
	pawel.moll@arm.com, zajec5@gmail.com,
	rmk+kernel@arm.linux.org.uk, lersek@redhat.com,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, ehabkost@redhat.com, arnd@arndb.de,
	ijc+devicetree@hellion.org.uk, galak@codeaurora.org,
	leif.lindholm@linaro.org, robh+dt@kernel.org,
	pbonzini@redhat.com, rth@twiddle.net, ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org,
	gregkh@linuxfoundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	luto@amacapital.net, hanjun.guo@linaro.org, sudeep.holla@arm.com,
	imammedo@redhat.com, revol@free.fr
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v8 1/4] firmware: introduce sysfs driver for QEMU's fw_cfg device
Date: Tue, 23 Feb 2016 07:07:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160223070541-mutt-send-email-mst@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160222202623.GI16357@HEDWIG.INI.CMU.EDU>

On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 03:26:23PM -0500, Gabriel L. Somlo wrote:
> On Mon, Feb 22, 2016 at 10:14:50PM +0200, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 08:06:17AM -0500, Gabriel L. Somlo wrote:
> > > > > +static void fw_cfg_io_cleanup(void)
> > > > > +{
> > > > > +	if (fw_cfg_is_mmio) {
> > > > > +		iounmap(fw_cfg_dev_base);
> > > > > +		release_mem_region(fw_cfg_p_base, fw_cfg_p_size);
> > > > > +	} else {
> > > > > +		ioport_unmap(fw_cfg_dev_base);
> > > > > +		release_region(fw_cfg_p_base, fw_cfg_p_size);
> > > > > +	}
> > > > > +}
> > > > > +
> > > > > +/* arch-specific ctrl & data register offsets are not available in ACPI, DT */
> > > > 
> > > > So for all arches which support ACPI, I think this driver
> > > > should just rely on ACPI.
> > > 
> > > There was a discussion about that a few versions ago, and IIRC the
> > > conclusion was not to expect the firmware to contend for fw_cfg access
> > > after the guest kernel boots:
> > > 
> > > https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/10/5/283
> > > 
> > 
> > So it looks like NVDIMM at least wants to pass label data to guest -
> > for which fw cfg might be a reasonable choice.
> > 
> > I suspect things changed - fw cfg used to be very slow but we now have
> > DMA interface which makes it useful for a range of applications.

Comment on this? I'm really worried we'll release linux
without a way to access fw cfg from aml.
How about taking acpi lock around all accesses?

> > > (I even had a prototype version doing what you suggested, but per the above
> > > reference decided to drop it -- which IMHO is for the better, since otherwise
> > > I'd have had to ifdef between ACPI and non-ACPI versions of the driver --
> > > see https://lkml.org/lkml/2015/11/4/534 )
> > 
> > I'm not sure why you have these ifdefs - they are on the host, are they
> > not?
> 
> Think of those as "pseudocode" ifdefs, they're there to distinguish
> between AML that would be generated on MMIO vs. IOPORT systems
> (specifically, arm vs. x86, respectively)
> 
> Some of the AML is the same, but obviously the _CRS, and
> OperationRegion + Field are different, and I wanted to point that out
> somehow :)
> 
> Cheers,
> --Gabriel

You can do ifs as well.

-- 
MST

  reply	other threads:[~2016-02-23  5:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-28 14:23 [PATCH v8 0/4] SysFS driver for QEMU fw_cfg device Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-01-28 14:23 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-01-28 14:23 ` [PATCH v8 1/4] firmware: introduce sysfs driver for QEMU's " Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-01-28 14:23   ` [Qemu-devel] " Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-02-21  8:30   ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-02-21  8:30     ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-02-21  8:30     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-02-21 13:06     ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-02-21 13:06       ` [Qemu-devel] " Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-02-21 13:06       ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-02-21 13:10       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-02-21 13:10         ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-02-21 13:10         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-02-21 17:20         ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-02-21 17:20           ` [Qemu-devel] " Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-02-21 17:20           ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-02-21 13:14       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-02-21 13:14         ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-02-21 13:14         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-02-22 20:14       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-02-22 20:14         ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-02-22 20:14         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-02-22 20:26         ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-02-22 20:26           ` [Qemu-devel] " Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-02-22 20:26           ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-02-23  5:07           ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message]
2016-02-23  5:07             ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-02-23  5:07             ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-02-23 13:47             ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-02-23 13:47               ` [Qemu-devel] " Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-02-23 13:47               ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-02-23 14:14               ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-02-23 14:14                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-02-23 14:14                 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2016-02-24  0:03                 ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-02-24  0:03                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-02-24  0:03                   ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-01-28 14:23 ` [PATCH v8 2/4] kobject: export kset_find_obj() for module use Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-01-28 14:23   ` [Qemu-devel] " Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-02-07  7:24   ` Greg KH
2016-02-07  7:24     ` [Qemu-devel] " Greg KH
2016-02-07  7:24     ` Greg KH
2016-02-07 14:27     ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-02-07 14:27       ` [Qemu-devel] " Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-02-07 14:27       ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-01-28 14:23 ` [PATCH v8 3/4] firmware: create directory hierarchy for sysfs fw_cfg entries Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-01-28 14:23   ` [Qemu-devel] " Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-01-28 14:23   ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-01-28 14:23 ` [PATCH v8 4/4] devicetree: update documentation for fw_cfg ARM bindings Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-01-28 14:23   ` [Qemu-devel] " Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-01-28 14:23   ` Gabriel L. Somlo
2016-02-03 22:47 ` [PATCH v8 0/4] SysFS driver for QEMU fw_cfg device Matt Fleming
2016-02-03 22:47   ` [Qemu-devel] " Matt Fleming
2016-02-03 22:47   ` Matt Fleming
2016-02-10  1:38   ` Greg KH
2016-02-10  1:38     ` [Qemu-devel] " Greg KH
2016-02-10  1:38     ` Greg KH

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