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From: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
To: Pratyush Anand <panand@redhat.com>
Cc: "James Morse" <james.morse@arm.com>,
	"David Long" <dave.long@linaro.org>,
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 3/9] arm64: add copy_to/from_user to kprobes blacklist
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 14:52:43 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160321145242.GJ23397@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160318132902.GA29225@dhcppc6.redhat.com>

On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 06:59:02PM +0530, Pratyush Anand wrote:
> On 17/03/2016:01:27:26 PM, Pratyush Anand wrote:
> > @David: This patch was added in v9 and fixup_exception() had been dropped in v9.
> > Since, dropping of fixup_exception() also caused to fail some systemtap test
> > cases, so it was added back in v10. I wonder if we really need this patch.
> > May be you can try to run related test case by dropping this patch. 
> 
> Had a closer look to the code, and noticed that fixup_exception() does not have
> any role in handling of page fault of copy_to_user(). Then, why do we have the
> problem.
> Probably, I can see why does not it work. So, when we are single stepping an
> instruction and page fault occurs, we will come to el1_da in entry.S. Here, we
> do enable_dbg. As soon as we will do this, we will start receiving single step
> exception after each instruction (not sure, probably for each alternate
> instruction). Since, there will not be any matching single step handler for
> these instructions, so we will see warning "Unexpected kernel single-step
> exception at EL1". 
> 
> So, I think, we should 
> 
> (1) may be do not enable debug for el1_da, or
> (2) enable_dbg only when single stepping is not enabled, or
> (3) or disable single stepping during el1_da execution.
> 
> (1) will solve the issue for sure, but not sure if it could be the best choice.
> 
> Will, what do you suggest?

Leaving debug exceptions disabled isn't something I'm keen on at all,
because it leads to blackspots in kernel debugging that I don't think
should be enforced by the low-level debug machinery. My preference is
for the higher-level debugger code (e.g. kprobes, kdgb) to ignore the
events that it's not interested in.

It's also very easy to lose track of the debug state if you run preemptible
code at EL1 with debug exceptions disabled, because kernel debugging is
per-cpu rather than per-task.

Will

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From: will.deacon@arm.com (Will Deacon)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v11 3/9] arm64: add copy_to/from_user to kprobes blacklist
Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 14:52:43 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160321145242.GJ23397@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160318132902.GA29225@dhcppc6.redhat.com>

On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 06:59:02PM +0530, Pratyush Anand wrote:
> On 17/03/2016:01:27:26 PM, Pratyush Anand wrote:
> > @David: This patch was added in v9 and fixup_exception() had been dropped in v9.
> > Since, dropping of fixup_exception() also caused to fail some systemtap test
> > cases, so it was added back in v10. I wonder if we really need this patch.
> > May be you can try to run related test case by dropping this patch. 
> 
> Had a closer look to the code, and noticed that fixup_exception() does not have
> any role in handling of page fault of copy_to_user(). Then, why do we have the
> problem.
> Probably, I can see why does not it work. So, when we are single stepping an
> instruction and page fault occurs, we will come to el1_da in entry.S. Here, we
> do enable_dbg. As soon as we will do this, we will start receiving single step
> exception after each instruction (not sure, probably for each alternate
> instruction). Since, there will not be any matching single step handler for
> these instructions, so we will see warning "Unexpected kernel single-step
> exception at EL1". 
> 
> So, I think, we should 
> 
> (1) may be do not enable debug for el1_da, or
> (2) enable_dbg only when single stepping is not enabled, or
> (3) or disable single stepping during el1_da execution.
> 
> (1) will solve the issue for sure, but not sure if it could be the best choice.
> 
> Will, what do you suggest?

Leaving debug exceptions disabled isn't something I'm keen on at all,
because it leads to blackspots in kernel debugging that I don't think
should be enforced by the low-level debug machinery. My preference is
for the higher-level debugger code (e.g. kprobes, kdgb) to ignore the
events that it's not interested in.

It's also very easy to lose track of the debug state if you run preemptible
code at EL1 with debug exceptions disabled, because kernel debugging is
per-cpu rather than per-task.

Will

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-03-21 14:52 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 76+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-03-09  5:32 [PATCH v11 0/9] arm64: Add kernel probes (kprobes) support David Long
2016-03-09  5:32 ` David Long
2016-03-09  5:32 ` [PATCH v11 1/9] arm64: Add HAVE_REGS_AND_STACK_ACCESS_API feature David Long
2016-03-09  5:32   ` David Long
2016-03-11 18:07   ` James Morse
2016-03-11 18:07     ` James Morse
2016-03-18 13:06     ` David Long
2016-03-18 13:06       ` David Long
2016-03-15 11:04   ` Marc Zyngier
2016-03-15 11:04     ` Marc Zyngier
2016-03-21  7:08     ` David Long
2016-03-21  7:08       ` David Long
2016-03-09  5:32 ` [PATCH v11 2/9] arm64: Add more test functions to insn.c David Long
2016-03-09  5:32   ` David Long
2016-03-09  5:32 ` [PATCH v11 3/9] arm64: add copy_to/from_user to kprobes blacklist David Long
2016-03-09  5:32   ` David Long
2016-03-15 18:47   ` James Morse
2016-03-15 18:47     ` James Morse
2016-03-16  5:43     ` Pratyush Anand
2016-03-16  5:43       ` Pratyush Anand
2016-03-16 10:27       ` James Morse
2016-03-16 10:27         ` James Morse
2016-03-17  7:57         ` Pratyush Anand
2016-03-17  7:57           ` Pratyush Anand
2016-03-18 13:29           ` Pratyush Anand
2016-03-18 13:29             ` Pratyush Anand
2016-03-18 14:02             ` James Morse
2016-03-18 14:02               ` James Morse
2016-03-18 14:43               ` Pratyush Anand
2016-03-18 14:43                 ` Pratyush Anand
2016-03-18 18:12                 ` James Morse
2016-03-18 18:12                   ` James Morse
2016-03-21  5:17                   ` Pratyush Anand
2016-03-21  5:17                     ` Pratyush Anand
2016-03-21 14:52             ` Will Deacon [this message]
2016-03-21 14:52               ` Will Deacon
2016-03-22 16:51               ` Pratyush Anand
2016-03-22 16:51                 ` Pratyush Anand
2016-03-17 12:04   ` 平松雅巳 / HIRAMATU,MASAMI
2016-03-17 12:04     ` 平松雅巳 / HIRAMATU,MASAMI
2016-03-09  5:32 ` [PATCH v11 4/9] arm64: add conditional instruction simulation support David Long
2016-03-09  5:32   ` David Long
2016-03-13 12:09   ` Marc Zyngier
2016-03-13 12:09     ` Marc Zyngier
2016-03-14  4:04     ` Pratyush Anand
2016-03-14  4:04       ` Pratyush Anand
2016-03-14  7:38       ` Marc Zyngier
2016-03-14  7:38         ` Marc Zyngier
2016-03-21  8:35         ` David Long
2016-03-21  8:35           ` David Long
2016-03-09  5:32 ` [PATCH v11 5/9] arm64: Kprobes with single stepping support David Long
2016-03-09  5:32   ` David Long
2016-04-20  1:29   ` Li Bin
2016-04-20  1:29     ` Li Bin
2016-03-09  5:32 ` [PATCH v11 6/9] arm64: kprobes instruction simulation support David Long
2016-03-09  5:32   ` David Long
2016-03-12  3:56   ` Marc Zyngier
2016-03-12  3:56     ` Marc Zyngier
2016-03-21  9:39     ` David Long
2016-03-21  9:39       ` David Long
2016-03-09  5:32 ` [PATCH v11 7/9] arm64: Add trampoline code for kretprobes David Long
2016-03-09  5:32   ` David Long
2016-03-13 13:52   ` Marc Zyngier
2016-03-13 13:52     ` Marc Zyngier
2016-03-21 13:30     ` David Long
2016-03-21 13:30       ` David Long
2016-03-09  5:32 ` [PATCH v11 8/9] arm64: Add kernel return probes support (kretprobes) David Long
2016-03-09  5:32   ` David Long
2016-03-17 12:22   ` 平松雅巳 / HIRAMATU,MASAMI
2016-03-17 12:22     ` 平松雅巳 / HIRAMATU,MASAMI
2016-03-17 12:58     ` 平松雅巳 / HIRAMATU,MASAMI
2016-03-17 12:58       ` 平松雅巳 / HIRAMATU,MASAMI
2016-03-21 13:33       ` David Long
2016-03-21 13:33         ` David Long
2016-03-09  5:32 ` [PATCH v11 9/9] kprobes: Add arm64 case in kprobe example module David Long
2016-03-09  5:32   ` David Long

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