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From: "Pali Rohár" <pali.rohar@gmail.com>
To: sre@kernel.org, Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
Cc: Tony Lindgren <tony@atomide.com>,
	kernel list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	linux-omap@vger.kernel.org, khilman@kernel.org,
	aaro.koskinen@iki.fi, ivo.g.dimitrov.75@gmail.com,
	patrikbachan@gmail.com, serge@hallyn.com,
	Tomi Valkeinen <tomi.valkeinen@ti.com>
Subject: Re: Nokia N900 retention mode in v4.6, camera buttons fun
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2016 15:04:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160421130450.GQ29406@pali> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160417175539.GA502@amd>

On Sunday 17 April 2016 19:55:40 Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> > > > > > Ok, it works now. I was doing tests in daylight so it was poorly
> > > > > > visible. The right part of keyboard stays lit (but that's expected
> > > > > > AFAICT), but the left part blinks.
> > > > > 
> > > > > During idle, both should go off and are doing so for me. Both LEDs off
> > > > > indicates off mode, left LED off is for retention mode. So you still
> > > > > have something blocking off mode, maybe check:
> > > > > 
> > > > > echo 1 > /sys/kernel/debug/pm_debug/enable_off_mode
> > > > 
> > > > What is the power difference between retention and off? I'm now down
> > > > to cca 25mA, which should be around 50 hours standby time. Not ideal,
> > > > but should be usable.
> > 
> > The 25mA sounds way too big to me even for retention mode, some
> > devices must be still on.
> 
> Yes, cca 60mW. 
> 
> > The off mode makes a huge difference for standby time, it should cut
> > down the total power consumption to something like 10+ mW with modem
> > enabled. Aproximately the breakdown is roughly: 900 uW for omap, 5 mW
> > for memory and 5 or more for the modem. Sorry I don't know the exact
> > numbers for the modem. But with 37xx torpedo, mainline kernel is
> > already getting very close to the 900 uW + 5 mW numbers for the CPU
> > module during idle measured from the ina219 shunt on the torpedo
> > devkit.
> 
> CONFIG_HSI breaks power management completely, so power management
> with modem will be another topic.  

Sebastian, any idea why power management does not work for HSI?

> > > > In the meantime, I found what is causing the rention mode to break for
> > > > me: CONFIG_HSI (aka wireless modem support). With HSI off, it seems to work.
> > > > 
> > > > I still get problems with the camera button, in config similar to
> > > > defconfig.  For some reason, I'm even getting (autorepeating) ^@ on
> > > > console. As long as I hold camera button down, I even get it into off
> > > > mode for brief period.
> > > 
> > > Ok, if I turn off CONFIG_KEYBOARD_GPIO, I get it into off
> > > mode... once per screen blank, for about a second. (Does CONFIG_KEYBOARD_GPIO also cause
> > > problems for you?)
> > > 
> > > Any idea why it enters off mode only once after each screenblank?
> > 
> > After disabling CONFIG_PROVE_LOCKING, loading the LCD modules, and
> > blanking the screen, my n900 hits off mode just fine about once
> > a second. Sounds like you still have some extra devices enabled
> > causing it.
> 
> I checked again... also with vanilla 4.6-rc2 to double check... same effect.
> 
> Aha, got it... cat-ing /sys/kernel/debug/pm_debug/count breaks the
> off mode. If I don't do that (tm), it seems to work way better.

So what is result? Is power management working for CONFIG_KEYBOARD_GPIO?
Or problem is somewhere in CONFIG_PROVE_LOCKING?

-- 
Pali Rohár
pali.rohar@gmail.com

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From: pali.rohar@gmail.com (Pali Rohár)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Nokia N900 retention mode in v4.6, camera buttons fun
Date: Thu, 21 Apr 2016 15:04:50 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160421130450.GQ29406@pali> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160417175539.GA502@amd>

On Sunday 17 April 2016 19:55:40 Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
> 
> > > > > > Ok, it works now. I was doing tests in daylight so it was poorly
> > > > > > visible. The right part of keyboard stays lit (but that's expected
> > > > > > AFAICT), but the left part blinks.
> > > > > 
> > > > > During idle, both should go off and are doing so for me. Both LEDs off
> > > > > indicates off mode, left LED off is for retention mode. So you still
> > > > > have something blocking off mode, maybe check:
> > > > > 
> > > > > echo 1 > /sys/kernel/debug/pm_debug/enable_off_mode
> > > > 
> > > > What is the power difference between retention and off? I'm now down
> > > > to cca 25mA, which should be around 50 hours standby time. Not ideal,
> > > > but should be usable.
> > 
> > The 25mA sounds way too big to me even for retention mode, some
> > devices must be still on.
> 
> Yes, cca 60mW. 
> 
> > The off mode makes a huge difference for standby time, it should cut
> > down the total power consumption to something like 10+ mW with modem
> > enabled. Aproximately the breakdown is roughly: 900 uW for omap, 5 mW
> > for memory and 5 or more for the modem. Sorry I don't know the exact
> > numbers for the modem. But with 37xx torpedo, mainline kernel is
> > already getting very close to the 900 uW + 5 mW numbers for the CPU
> > module during idle measured from the ina219 shunt on the torpedo
> > devkit.
> 
> CONFIG_HSI breaks power management completely, so power management
> with modem will be another topic.  

Sebastian, any idea why power management does not work for HSI?

> > > > In the meantime, I found what is causing the rention mode to break for
> > > > me: CONFIG_HSI (aka wireless modem support). With HSI off, it seems to work.
> > > > 
> > > > I still get problems with the camera button, in config similar to
> > > > defconfig.  For some reason, I'm even getting (autorepeating) ^@ on
> > > > console. As long as I hold camera button down, I even get it into off
> > > > mode for brief period.
> > > 
> > > Ok, if I turn off CONFIG_KEYBOARD_GPIO, I get it into off
> > > mode... once per screen blank, for about a second. (Does CONFIG_KEYBOARD_GPIO also cause
> > > problems for you?)
> > > 
> > > Any idea why it enters off mode only once after each screenblank?
> > 
> > After disabling CONFIG_PROVE_LOCKING, loading the LCD modules, and
> > blanking the screen, my n900 hits off mode just fine about once
> > a second. Sounds like you still have some extra devices enabled
> > causing it.
> 
> I checked again... also with vanilla 4.6-rc2 to double check... same effect.
> 
> Aha, got it... cat-ing /sys/kernel/debug/pm_debug/count breaks the
> off mode. If I don't do that (tm), it seems to work way better.

So what is result? Is power management working for CONFIG_KEYBOARD_GPIO?
Or problem is somewhere in CONFIG_PROVE_LOCKING?

-- 
Pali Roh?r
pali.rohar at gmail.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-04-21 13:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 120+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-01-23 12:10 N900 sleep mode (in 4.5-rc0, if that matters) Pavel Machek
2016-01-23 12:10 ` Pavel Machek
2016-01-25 16:33 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-01-25 16:33   ` Tony Lindgren
2016-01-25 22:23   ` Pavel Machek
2016-01-25 22:23     ` Pavel Machek
2016-01-25 22:50     ` Tony Lindgren
2016-01-25 22:50       ` Tony Lindgren
2016-01-26 14:00   ` Pavel Machek
2016-01-26 14:00     ` Pavel Machek
2016-01-26 17:25     ` Tony Lindgren
2016-01-26 17:25       ` Tony Lindgren
2016-01-26 22:51       ` Tony Lindgren
2016-01-26 22:51         ` Tony Lindgren
2016-01-30 20:02       ` Pavel Machek
2016-01-30 20:02         ` Pavel Machek
2016-01-30 20:14         ` Pavel Machek
2016-01-30 20:14           ` Pavel Machek
2016-01-30 22:15           ` Pavel Machek
2016-01-30 22:15             ` Pavel Machek
2016-02-01 18:13             ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-01 18:13               ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-01 21:17               ` Pavel Machek
2016-02-01 21:17                 ` Pavel Machek
2016-02-01 22:11                 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-01 22:11                   ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-04  5:35                   ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-04  5:35                     ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-07 21:37                     ` Pavel Machek
2016-02-07 21:37                       ` Pavel Machek
2016-02-07 21:37                       ` Pavel Machek
2016-02-08  8:51                       ` Pali Rohár
2016-02-08  8:51                         ` Pali Rohár
2016-02-07 21:23                   ` Pavel Machek
2016-02-07 21:23                     ` Pavel Machek
2016-02-09 17:24                     ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-09 17:24                       ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-09 17:38                       ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-09 17:38                         ` Tony Lindgren
2016-03-20  8:38                         ` Pavel Machek
2016-03-20  8:38                           ` Pavel Machek
2016-02-11  1:08                       ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-11  1:08                         ` Tony Lindgren
2016-02-11  1:08                         ` Tony Lindgren
2016-03-23 14:37                         ` Pavel Machek
2016-03-23 14:37                           ` Pavel Machek
2016-03-20  8:33                       ` Pavel Machek
2016-03-20  8:33                         ` Pavel Machek
2016-03-23 12:38                       ` Pavel Machek
2016-03-23 12:38                         ` Pavel Machek
2016-03-30 19:12                         ` Tony Lindgren
2016-03-30 19:12                           ` Tony Lindgren
2016-04-04 11:09                           ` Pali Rohár
2016-04-04 11:09                             ` Pali Rohár
2016-04-04 22:31                             ` Tony Lindgren
2016-04-04 22:31                               ` Tony Lindgren
2016-04-04 21:30                           ` Pavel Machek
2016-04-04 21:30                             ` Pavel Machek
2016-04-04 22:07                             ` Tony Lindgren
2016-04-04 22:07                               ` Tony Lindgren
2016-04-05 10:09                               ` Pavel Machek
2016-04-05 10:09                                 ` Pavel Machek
2016-04-05 13:17                               ` Pavel Machek
2016-04-05 13:17                                 ` Pavel Machek
2016-04-05 14:22                               ` 4.4: camera and unlock buttons produce tons of interrupts (was Re: N900 sleep mode) Pavel Machek
2016-04-05 14:22                                 ` Pavel Machek
2016-04-05 15:29                                 ` Tony Lindgren
2016-04-05 15:29                                   ` Tony Lindgren
2016-04-05 20:51                                   ` Pavel Machek
2016-04-05 20:51                                     ` Pavel Machek
2016-04-07 17:40                                     ` Tony Lindgren
2016-04-07 17:40                                       ` Tony Lindgren
2016-04-07 19:48                                       ` 4.4, 4.6: " Pavel Machek
2016-04-07 19:48                                         ` Pavel Machek
2016-04-07 21:32                                         ` Tony Lindgren
2016-04-07 21:32                                           ` Tony Lindgren
2016-04-07 23:01                                           ` Pavel Machek
2016-04-07 23:01                                             ` Pavel Machek
2016-04-07 23:41                                             ` Tony Lindgren
2016-04-07 23:41                                               ` Tony Lindgren
2016-04-08  9:19                                               ` Pavel Machek
2016-04-08  9:19                                                 ` Pavel Machek
2016-04-11  8:27                                               ` 4.6-rc2: regression with omap video and lockdep (was Re: 4.4, 4.6: camera and unlock buttons produce tons of interrupts (was Re: N900 sleep mode)) Pavel Machek
2016-04-11  8:27                                                 ` Pavel Machek
2016-04-11  9:30                                               ` 4.4, 4.6: camera and unlock buttons produce tons of interrupts (was Re: N900 sleep mode) Pavel Machek
2016-04-11  9:30                                                 ` Pavel Machek
2016-04-11  9:41                                                 ` Pavel Machek
2016-04-11  9:41                                                   ` Pavel Machek
2016-04-11 21:10                                                   ` Tony Lindgren
2016-04-11 21:10                                                     ` Tony Lindgren
2016-04-12 12:16                                                     ` Nokia N900 retention mode in v4.6, camera buttons fun Pavel Machek
2016-04-12 12:30                                                       ` Pavel Machek
2016-04-12 12:30                                                         ` Pavel Machek
2016-04-12 16:30                                                         ` Tony Lindgren
2016-04-12 16:30                                                           ` Tony Lindgren
2016-04-13  5:52                                                           ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-04-13  5:52                                                             ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-04-13  5:52                                                             ` Tomi Valkeinen
2016-04-13 15:15                                                             ` Tony Lindgren
2016-04-13 15:15                                                               ` Tony Lindgren
2016-04-17 17:55                                                           ` Pavel Machek
2016-04-17 17:55                                                             ` Pavel Machek
2016-04-18 23:47                                                             ` Tony Lindgren
2016-04-18 23:47                                                               ` Tony Lindgren
2016-04-21 13:04                                                             ` Pali Rohár [this message]
2016-04-21 13:04                                                               ` Pali Rohár
2016-04-21 21:28                                                               ` Pavel Machek
2016-04-21 21:28                                                                 ` Pavel Machek
2016-04-22  7:05                                                                 ` Pali Rohár
2016-04-22  7:05                                                                   ` Pali Rohár
2016-04-29 20:06                                                               ` Sebastian Reichel
2016-04-29 20:06                                                                 ` Sebastian Reichel
2016-05-01  8:52                                                                 ` Pavel Machek
2016-05-01  8:52                                                                   ` Pavel Machek
2016-05-01 15:48                                                                   ` Sebastian Reichel
2016-05-01 15:48                                                                     ` Sebastian Reichel
2016-05-02 20:12                                                                     ` Sebastian Reichel
2016-05-02 20:12                                                                       ` Sebastian Reichel
2016-05-28 11:09                                                                       ` Pavel Machek
2016-05-28 11:09                                                                         ` Pavel Machek

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