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From: Will Deacon <will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
To: Robin Murphy <robin.murphy-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
Cc: iommu-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
	tchalamarla-M3mlKVOIwJVv6pq1l3V1OdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org,
	brian.starkey-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org,
	linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 6/7] iommu/arm-smmu: Decouple context format from kernel config
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 14:41:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160425134108.GD30830@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <571E1851.2030400-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>

On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 02:14:57PM +0100, Robin Murphy wrote:
> On 25/04/16 12:02, Will Deacon wrote:
> >In what case would you not have a viable AArch64 granule, but the option
> >of falling back to AArch32 makes things work?
> 
> A 4KB page kernel with MMU-401, whose only supported AArch64 granule is
> supposedly 64KB.

That doesn't sound right at all!

> >>Plus we'd have to remove the LPAE page sizes
> >>from the bitmap beforehand in the case we don't support AARCH64_4K lest we
> >>end up with a phantom format the hardware doesn't actually do, and it all
> >>starts getting rather horrible...
> >
> >I'm not following. The io-pgtable code shouldn't give you back a phanton
> >format.
> 
> If you call alloc_io_pgtable_ops() with ARM_64_LPAE_S2 and an unmolested
> MMU-401 pgsize_bitmap, you get back a 4K granule v8 pagetable, which per a
> strict reading of the TRM isn't supported (although does appear to work in
> practice...)

I suspect that's a badly worded/incorrect TRM. In reality, I'd be happy
to assume that a given granule is supported across all formats (in as
much as it can be) if it's supported by one of them, but acknowledge
that's not guaranteed by the architecture.

> Consider also a stage 1 SMMU supporting all formats but only with 4K
> granules: with a 64K page arm64 kernel, the presence of AARCH64_4K support
> would lead us into arm_64_lpae_alloc_pgtable_s1(), which would be tricked
> into giving us back a 64K granule v8 format by the short descriptor large
> page size matching PAGE_SIZE, and things would definitely go downhill from
> there.

We could improve this by having a separate pgsize_bitmap per format, and
passing the relevant one to the relevant page table constructor.

> Given that, I think the only truly safe thing to do is to pass an explicit
> granule in the io_pgtable_cfg and just get rid of the bitmap-based guessing
> in arm_lpae_restrict_pgsizes() - otherwise, we'd still have to pre-restrict
> the bitmap, making it pretty much redundant anyway. I'll have a hack at that

Actually, I think I prefer to go the other way. Let's try moving more of
this common logic into the io-pgtable code. For example, an IOMMU driver
could say "I support these formats, and these options (page sizes, quirks,
etc) for each format" and the io-pgtable code can choose the most
appropriate thing.

> - in the meantime please feel free to queue patches 1-3 if you're happy with
> them, as that part is still feature-complete without all this context stuff.

Queued those, thanks!

Will

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: will.deacon@arm.com (Will Deacon)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 6/7] iommu/arm-smmu: Decouple context format from kernel config
Date: Mon, 25 Apr 2016 14:41:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160425134108.GD30830@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <571E1851.2030400@arm.com>

On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 02:14:57PM +0100, Robin Murphy wrote:
> On 25/04/16 12:02, Will Deacon wrote:
> >In what case would you not have a viable AArch64 granule, but the option
> >of falling back to AArch32 makes things work?
> 
> A 4KB page kernel with MMU-401, whose only supported AArch64 granule is
> supposedly 64KB.

That doesn't sound right at all!

> >>Plus we'd have to remove the LPAE page sizes
> >>from the bitmap beforehand in the case we don't support AARCH64_4K lest we
> >>end up with a phantom format the hardware doesn't actually do, and it all
> >>starts getting rather horrible...
> >
> >I'm not following. The io-pgtable code shouldn't give you back a phanton
> >format.
> 
> If you call alloc_io_pgtable_ops() with ARM_64_LPAE_S2 and an unmolested
> MMU-401 pgsize_bitmap, you get back a 4K granule v8 pagetable, which per a
> strict reading of the TRM isn't supported (although does appear to work in
> practice...)

I suspect that's a badly worded/incorrect TRM. In reality, I'd be happy
to assume that a given granule is supported across all formats (in as
much as it can be) if it's supported by one of them, but acknowledge
that's not guaranteed by the architecture.

> Consider also a stage 1 SMMU supporting all formats but only with 4K
> granules: with a 64K page arm64 kernel, the presence of AARCH64_4K support
> would lead us into arm_64_lpae_alloc_pgtable_s1(), which would be tricked
> into giving us back a 64K granule v8 format by the short descriptor large
> page size matching PAGE_SIZE, and things would definitely go downhill from
> there.

We could improve this by having a separate pgsize_bitmap per format, and
passing the relevant one to the relevant page table constructor.

> Given that, I think the only truly safe thing to do is to pass an explicit
> granule in the io_pgtable_cfg and just get rid of the bitmap-based guessing
> in arm_lpae_restrict_pgsizes() - otherwise, we'd still have to pre-restrict
> the bitmap, making it pretty much redundant anyway. I'll have a hack at that

Actually, I think I prefer to go the other way. Let's try moving more of
this common logic into the io-pgtable code. For example, an IOMMU driver
could say "I support these formats, and these options (page sizes, quirks,
etc) for each format" and the io-pgtable code can choose the most
appropriate thing.

> - in the meantime please feel free to queue patches 1-3 if you're happy with
> them, as that part is still feature-complete without all this context stuff.

Queued those, thanks!

Will

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-04-25 13:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 56+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-04-13 17:12 [PATCH 0/7] arm-smmu: Implementation and context format differentiation Robin Murphy
2016-04-13 17:12 ` Robin Murphy
     [not found] ` <cover.1460391217.git.robin.murphy-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-13 17:12   ` [PATCH 1/7] iommu/arm-smmu: Differentiate specific implementations Robin Murphy
2016-04-13 17:12     ` Robin Murphy
     [not found]     ` <cc1789284c5efa05514231fa3dede9d1d5f2df18.1460391217.git.robin.murphy-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-13 21:15       ` Chalamarla, Tirumalesh
2016-04-13 21:15         ` Chalamarla, Tirumalesh
2016-04-13 17:12   ` [PATCH 2/7] iommu/arm-smmu: Convert ThunderX workaround to new method Robin Murphy
2016-04-13 17:12     ` Robin Murphy
     [not found]     ` <98b8079ee3ede4427b045214a60ba77f1cb3552c.1460391217.git.robin.murphy-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-13 21:16       ` Chalamarla, Tirumalesh
2016-04-13 21:16         ` Chalamarla, Tirumalesh
2016-04-13 17:12   ` [PATCH 3/7] iommu/arm-smmu: Work around MMU-500 prefetch errata Robin Murphy
2016-04-13 17:12     ` Robin Murphy
     [not found]     ` <0484444b6257bfb6adb68405a72c64fc4fc98142.1460391217.git.robin.murphy-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-21 16:15       ` Will Deacon
2016-04-21 16:15         ` Will Deacon
2016-04-21 16:16       ` Will Deacon
2016-04-21 16:16         ` Will Deacon
2016-04-13 17:13   ` [PATCH 4/7] io-64-nonatomic: Add relaxed accessor variants Robin Murphy
2016-04-13 17:13     ` Robin Murphy
     [not found]     ` <44173fd4e8efd27d670cadc6b30e215243a14099.1460391217.git.robin.murphy-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-21 16:18       ` Will Deacon
2016-04-21 16:18         ` Will Deacon
     [not found]         ` <20160421161859.GK929-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-22 17:08           ` Robin Murphy
2016-04-22 17:08             ` Robin Murphy
     [not found]             ` <571A5A9E.7040305-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-25 13:32               ` Will Deacon
2016-04-25 13:32                 ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                 ` <20160425133242.GC30830-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-25 15:21                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-04-25 15:21                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-04-25 15:28                     ` Robin Murphy
2016-04-25 15:28                       ` Robin Murphy
     [not found]                       ` <571E3781.3070609-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-25 15:41                         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-04-25 15:41                           ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-04-25 16:11                           ` Will Deacon
2016-04-25 16:11                             ` Will Deacon
2016-04-25 16:11       ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-04-25 16:11         ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-04-26 10:38       ` [PATCH v2] " Robin Murphy
2016-04-26 10:38         ` Robin Murphy
2016-04-13 17:13   ` [PATCH 5/7] iommu/arm-smmu: Tidy up 64-bit/atomic I/O accesses Robin Murphy
2016-04-13 17:13     ` Robin Murphy
2016-04-13 17:13   ` [PATCH 6/7] iommu/arm-smmu: Decouple context format from kernel config Robin Murphy
2016-04-13 17:13     ` Robin Murphy
     [not found]     ` <173006777218859d1671ae517c70592c6c02f630.1460391217.git.robin.murphy-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-21 16:30       ` Will Deacon
2016-04-21 16:30         ` Will Deacon
     [not found]         ` <20160421163019.GL929-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-22 17:38           ` Robin Murphy
2016-04-22 17:38             ` Robin Murphy
     [not found]             ` <571A617C.3020102-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-25 11:02               ` Will Deacon
2016-04-25 11:02                 ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                 ` <20160425110219.GH16065-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-25 13:14                   ` Robin Murphy
2016-04-25 13:14                     ` Robin Murphy
     [not found]                     ` <571E1851.2030400-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-25 13:41                       ` Will Deacon [this message]
2016-04-25 13:41                         ` Will Deacon
     [not found]                         ` <20160425134108.GD30830-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
2016-04-25 16:21                           ` Robin Murphy
2016-04-25 16:21                             ` Robin Murphy
2016-04-28 16:12       ` [PATCH v2] " Robin Murphy
2016-04-28 16:12         ` Robin Murphy
2016-04-13 17:13   ` [PATCH 7/7] iommu/arm-smmu: Support SMMUv1 64KB supplement Robin Murphy
2016-04-13 17:13     ` Robin Murphy

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