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From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: aduyck@mirantis.com
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org, intel-wired-lan@lists.osuosl.org,
	hannes@redhat.com, jesse@kernel.org, eugenia@mellanox.com,
	jbenc@redhat.com, alexander.duyck@gmail.com, saeedm@mellanox.com,
	ariel.elior@qlogic.com, tom@herbertland.com,
	michael.chan@broadcom.com, Dept-GELinuxNICDev@qlogic.com
Subject: Re: [net-next PATCH v3 00/17] Future-proof tunnel offload handlers
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 20:26:41 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160617.202641.1821023739498595024.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160616191851.20872.67154.stgit@localhost.localdomain>

From: Alexander Duyck <aduyck@mirantis.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 12:20:35 -0700

> s patch is meant to address two things.  First we are currently using
> the ndo_add/del_vxlan_port calls with VXLAN-GPE tunnels and we cannot
> really support that as it is likely to cause more harm than good since
> VXLAN-GPE can support tunnels without a MAC address on the inner header.
> 
> As such we need to add a new offload to advertise this, but in doing so it
> would mean introducing 3 new functions for the driver to request the ports,
> and then for the tunnel to push the changes to add and delete the ports to
> the device.  However instead of taking that approach I think it would be
> much better if we just made one common function for fetching the ports, and
> provided a generic means to push the tunnels to the device.  So in order to
> make this work this patch set does several things.
 ...

Series applied, thanks Alexander.

Tom, I've heard your arguments, but I think your fears are unfounded.
Look at what Alexander's patches are actually doing.

First, he's fixing a bug.  Hardware that supports VXLAN offloading
doesn't support VXLAN-GPE, yet we were sending such things to the
VXLAN offload paths.

Second, he's eliminating a metric ton of Kconfig garbage, as drivers
had to have all kinds of contrived dependencies to support UDP tunnel
offloads.

Third, he's consolidating several driver NDO methods into just two.

And finally, he added a big comment explaining that new tunnel types
should not be added to the tunnel type list, and those that exist
should only be used for RX.

Therefore, this isn't openning the door for new random offloads, quite
the contrary.  Instead, if it making clearer what the existing
facilitites support, and putting an explicit cap on them.

Thanks.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>
To: intel-wired-lan@osuosl.org
Subject: [Intel-wired-lan] [net-next PATCH v3 00/17] Future-proof tunnel offload handlers
Date: Fri, 17 Jun 2016 20:26:41 -0700 (PDT)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160617.202641.1821023739498595024.davem@davemloft.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160616191851.20872.67154.stgit@localhost.localdomain>

From: Alexander Duyck <aduyck@mirantis.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 12:20:35 -0700

> s patch is meant to address two things.  First we are currently using
> the ndo_add/del_vxlan_port calls with VXLAN-GPE tunnels and we cannot
> really support that as it is likely to cause more harm than good since
> VXLAN-GPE can support tunnels without a MAC address on the inner header.
> 
> As such we need to add a new offload to advertise this, but in doing so it
> would mean introducing 3 new functions for the driver to request the ports,
> and then for the tunnel to push the changes to add and delete the ports to
> the device.  However instead of taking that approach I think it would be
> much better if we just made one common function for fetching the ports, and
> provided a generic means to push the tunnels to the device.  So in order to
> make this work this patch set does several things.
 ...

Series applied, thanks Alexander.

Tom, I've heard your arguments, but I think your fears are unfounded.
Look at what Alexander's patches are actually doing.

First, he's fixing a bug.  Hardware that supports VXLAN offloading
doesn't support VXLAN-GPE, yet we were sending such things to the
VXLAN offload paths.

Second, he's eliminating a metric ton of Kconfig garbage, as drivers
had to have all kinds of contrived dependencies to support UDP tunnel
offloads.

Third, he's consolidating several driver NDO methods into just two.

And finally, he added a big comment explaining that new tunnel types
should not be added to the tunnel type list, and those that exist
should only be used for RX.

Therefore, this isn't openning the door for new random offloads, quite
the contrary.  Instead, if it making clearer what the existing
facilitites support, and putting an explicit cap on them.

Thanks.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-06-18  3:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 82+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-16 19:20 [net-next PATCH v3 00/17] Future-proof tunnel offload handlers Alexander Duyck
2016-06-16 19:20 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Alexander Duyck
2016-06-16 19:20 ` [net-next PATCH v3 01/17] vxlan/geneve: Include udp_tunnel.h in vxlan/geneve.h and fixup includes Alexander Duyck
2016-06-16 19:20   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Alexander Duyck
2016-06-16 23:06   ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-06-16 23:06     ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-06-16 19:20 ` [net-next PATCH v3 02/17] net: Combine GENEVE and VXLAN port notifiers into single functions Alexander Duyck
2016-06-16 19:20   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Alexander Duyck
2016-06-16 22:45   ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-06-16 22:45     ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-06-16 19:21 ` [net-next PATCH v3 03/17] net: Merge VXLAN and GENEVE push notifiers into a single notifier Alexander Duyck
2016-06-16 19:21   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Alexander Duyck
2016-06-16 22:47   ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-06-16 22:47     ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-06-16 19:21 ` [net-next PATCH v3 04/17] bnx2x: Move all UDP port notifiers to single function Alexander Duyck
2016-06-16 19:21   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Alexander Duyck
2016-06-16 19:21 ` [net-next PATCH v3 05/17] bnxt: Update drivers to support unified UDP encapsulation offload functions Alexander Duyck
2016-06-16 19:21   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Alexander Duyck
2016-06-16 19:21 ` [net-next PATCH v3 06/17] bnxt: Move GENEVE support from hard-coded port to using port notifier Alexander Duyck
2016-06-16 19:21   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Alexander Duyck
2016-06-16 23:12   ` Michael Chan
2016-06-16 23:12     ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Michael Chan
2016-06-16 19:21 ` [net-next PATCH v3 07/17] benet: Replace ndo_add/del_vxlan_port with ndo_add/del_udp_enc_port Alexander Duyck
2016-06-16 19:21   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Alexander Duyck
2016-06-16 19:21 ` [net-next PATCH v3 08/17] fm10k: " Alexander Duyck
2016-06-16 19:21   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Alexander Duyck
2016-06-16 19:22 ` [net-next PATCH v3 09/17] i40e: Move all UDP port notifiers to single function Alexander Duyck
2016-06-16 19:22   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Alexander Duyck
2016-06-16 19:22 ` [net-next PATCH v3 10/17] ixgbe: Replace ndo_add/del_vxlan_port with ndo_add/del_udp_enc_port Alexander Duyck
2016-06-16 19:22   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Alexander Duyck
2016-06-16 19:22 ` [net-next PATCH v3 11/17] mlx4_en: " Alexander Duyck
2016-06-16 19:22   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Alexander Duyck
2016-06-16 19:22 ` [net-next PATCH v3 12/17] mlx5_en: " Alexander Duyck
2016-06-16 19:22   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Alexander Duyck
2016-06-16 19:22 ` [net-next PATCH v3 13/17] nfp: " Alexander Duyck
2016-06-16 19:22   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Alexander Duyck
2016-06-16 19:22 ` [net-next PATCH v3 14/17] qede: Move all UDP port notifiers to single function Alexander Duyck
2016-06-16 19:22   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Alexander Duyck
2016-06-16 19:23 ` [net-next PATCH v3 15/17] qlcnic: Replace ndo_add/del_vxlan_port with ndo_add/del_udp_enc_port Alexander Duyck
2016-06-16 19:23   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Alexander Duyck
2016-06-16 19:23 ` [net-next PATCH v3 16/17] net: Remove deprecated tunnel specific UDP offload functions Alexander Duyck
2016-06-16 19:23   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Alexander Duyck
2016-06-16 22:59   ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-06-16 22:59     ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-06-16 19:23 ` [net-next PATCH v3 17/17] vxlan: Add new UDP encapsulation offload type for VXLAN-GPE Alexander Duyck
2016-06-16 19:23   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Alexander Duyck
2016-06-16 23:01   ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-06-16 23:01     ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-06-18  3:26 ` David Miller [this message]
2016-06-18  3:26   ` [Intel-wired-lan] [net-next PATCH v3 00/17] Future-proof tunnel offload handlers David Miller
2016-06-20 17:05   ` Tom Herbert
2016-06-20 17:05     ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Tom Herbert
2016-06-20 18:11     ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-06-20 18:11       ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-06-20 19:27       ` Tom Herbert
2016-06-20 19:27         ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Tom Herbert
2016-06-20 21:36         ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-06-20 21:36           ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-06-20 21:45           ` Tom Herbert
2016-06-20 21:45             ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Tom Herbert
2016-06-21  8:34       ` David Miller
2016-06-21  8:34         ` [Intel-wired-lan] " David Miller
2016-06-21  8:22     ` David Miller
2016-06-21  8:22       ` [Intel-wired-lan] " David Miller
2016-06-21 10:41       ` Edward Cree
2016-06-21 10:41         ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Edward Cree
2016-06-21 15:23       ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-06-21 15:23         ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-06-21 17:05       ` Alexander Duyck
2016-06-21 17:05         ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Alexander Duyck
2016-06-21 17:27         ` Edward Cree
2016-06-21 17:27           ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Edward Cree
2016-06-21 17:40           ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-06-21 17:40             ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-06-21 18:17             ` Alexander Duyck
2016-06-21 18:17               ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Alexander Duyck
2016-06-21 18:42               ` Tom Herbert
2016-06-21 18:42                 ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Tom Herbert
2016-06-21 21:34                 ` Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-06-21 21:34                   ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Hannes Frederic Sowa
2016-06-21 18:23             ` Edward Cree
2016-06-21 18:23               ` [Intel-wired-lan] " Edward Cree

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