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From: Lina Iyer <lina.iyer@linaro.org>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: ulf.hansson@linaro.org, khilman@kernel.org, rjw@rjwysocki.net,
	linux-pm@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	geert@linux-m68k.org, k.kozlowski@samsung.com,
	andy.gross@linaro.org, sboyd@codeaurora.org,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, lorenzo.pieralisi@arm.com,
	ahaslam@baylibre.com, mtitinger@baylibre.com,
	Axel Haslam <ahaslam+renesas@baylibre.com>,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org,
	Marc Titinger <mtitinger+renesas@baylibre.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 02/14] dt/bindings: update binding for PM domain idle states
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 12:04:51 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160623180451.GD1115@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160623173312.GA22204@leverpostej>

Hi Mark,

On Thu, Jun 23 2016 at 11:35 -0600, Mark Rutland wrote:
>Hi,
>
>On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 01:36:37PM -0600, Lina Iyer wrote:
>> From: Axel Haslam <ahaslam+renesas@baylibre.com>
>>
>> Update DT bindings to describe idle states of PM domains.
>>
>> Cc: <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>
>> Signed-off-by: Marc Titinger <mtitinger+renesas@baylibre.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Lina Iyer <lina.iyer@linaro.org>
>> [Lina: Added state properties, removed state names, wakeup-latency,
>> added of_pm_genpd_init() API, pruned commit text]
>> Signed-off-by: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>
>> [Ulf: Moved around code to make it compile properly, rebased on top of multiple state support]
>> ---
>>  .../devicetree/bindings/power/power_domain.txt     | 70 ++++++++++++++++++++++
>>  1 file changed, 70 insertions(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/power/power_domain.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/power/power_domain.txt
>> index 025b5e7..41e8dda 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/power/power_domain.txt
>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/power/power_domain.txt
>> @@ -29,6 +29,43 @@ Optional properties:
>>     specified by this binding. More details about power domain specifier are
>>     available in the next section.
>>
>> +- power-states : A phandle of an idle-state that shall be soaked into a
>> +                generic domain power state.
>
>It's somewhat unfortunate that this gives us two possible locations for
>idle state lists (under the /cpus node and in a pm-domains node),
>especially as it's not clear what would happen were a DT to have both.
>
>I would prefer that we extend the existing bindings such that states can
>refer to the power domains which they affect.
>
I agree. The CPU idle states have become defined to be specific to CPUs.
PM Domain idle states are generic for any type of domain. I am hoping at
some point, we could converge and use the same idle state, but that
would mean changing the CPU idle states to make it generic. At some
point, during my development, I did use the arm,idle-state for domains
as well, but the binding definitions were too restrictive for a generic
PM domain.

I would be willing to make the change to CPU idle states to make it
generic and then we could just reference domain and CPU idle states
using the same bindings. Are we okay with that, specifically,
arm,psci-suspend-param? This binding is very restrictive in its
description. What we pass to the platform driver upon choosing a domain
state is very platform specific and therefore has to be generic in its
description.

Thanks,
Lina

>> +==Power state==
>> +
>> +A PM domain power state describes an idle state of a domain and must be
>> +have the following properties -
>> +
>> +	- entry-latency-us
>> +		Usage: Not required if wakeup-latency-us is provided.
>> +		Value type: <prop-encoded-array>
>> +		Definition: u32 value representing worst case latency in
>> +		microseconds required to enter the idle state.
>> +		The exit-latency-us duration may be guaranteed
>> +		only after entry-latency-us has passed.
>> +
>> +	- exit-latency-us
>> +		Usage: Not required if wakeup-latency-us is provided.
>> +		Value type: <prop-encoded-array>
>> +		Definition: u32 value representing worst case latency
>> +		in microseconds required to exit the idle state.
>
>These are part of the existing idle state binding
>(Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/idle-states.txt), and I would
>prefer that we did not duplicate this nor come up with an independent
>set of idle state bindings.
>
>> +
>> +	- residency-us:
>> +		Usage: Optional
>> +		Value type: <prop-encoded-array>
>> +		Definition: A u32 value representing the time for which a
>> +		domain must be idle in the state to reap power saving benefits
>> +		of entering the state.
>
>This is "min-residency-us" per the existing bindings.
>
>> +
>> +	- state-param:
>> +		Usage: Optional
>> +		Value type: <prop-encoded-array>
>> +		Definition: A u32 value as defined by the state. May be used
>> +		by the driver to hold state related u32 data. In the case of
>> +		PSCI, an extended state-id for the domain may be encoded in
>> +		this value.
>
>This is "arm,psci-suspend-param", per the existing bindings.
>
>Thanks,
>Mark.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: lina.iyer@linaro.org (Lina Iyer)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 02/14] dt/bindings: update binding for PM domain idle states
Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2016 12:04:51 -0600	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160623180451.GD1115@linaro.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160623173312.GA22204@leverpostej>

Hi Mark,

On Thu, Jun 23 2016 at 11:35 -0600, Mark Rutland wrote:
>Hi,
>
>On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 01:36:37PM -0600, Lina Iyer wrote:
>> From: Axel Haslam <ahaslam+renesas@baylibre.com>
>>
>> Update DT bindings to describe idle states of PM domains.
>>
>> Cc: <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>
>> Signed-off-by: Marc Titinger <mtitinger+renesas@baylibre.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Lina Iyer <lina.iyer@linaro.org>
>> [Lina: Added state properties, removed state names, wakeup-latency,
>> added of_pm_genpd_init() API, pruned commit text]
>> Signed-off-by: Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>
>> [Ulf: Moved around code to make it compile properly, rebased on top of multiple state support]
>> ---
>>  .../devicetree/bindings/power/power_domain.txt     | 70 ++++++++++++++++++++++
>>  1 file changed, 70 insertions(+)
>>
>> diff --git a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/power/power_domain.txt b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/power/power_domain.txt
>> index 025b5e7..41e8dda 100644
>> --- a/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/power/power_domain.txt
>> +++ b/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/power/power_domain.txt
>> @@ -29,6 +29,43 @@ Optional properties:
>>     specified by this binding. More details about power domain specifier are
>>     available in the next section.
>>
>> +- power-states : A phandle of an idle-state that shall be soaked into a
>> +                generic domain power state.
>
>It's somewhat unfortunate that this gives us two possible locations for
>idle state lists (under the /cpus node and in a pm-domains node),
>especially as it's not clear what would happen were a DT to have both.
>
>I would prefer that we extend the existing bindings such that states can
>refer to the power domains which they affect.
>
I agree. The CPU idle states have become defined to be specific to CPUs.
PM Domain idle states are generic for any type of domain. I am hoping at
some point, we could converge and use the same idle state, but that
would mean changing the CPU idle states to make it generic. At some
point, during my development, I did use the arm,idle-state for domains
as well, but the binding definitions were too restrictive for a generic
PM domain.

I would be willing to make the change to CPU idle states to make it
generic and then we could just reference domain and CPU idle states
using the same bindings. Are we okay with that, specifically,
arm,psci-suspend-param? This binding is very restrictive in its
description. What we pass to the platform driver upon choosing a domain
state is very platform specific and therefore has to be generic in its
description.

Thanks,
Lina

>> +==Power state==
>> +
>> +A PM domain power state describes an idle state of a domain and must be
>> +have the following properties -
>> +
>> +	- entry-latency-us
>> +		Usage: Not required if wakeup-latency-us is provided.
>> +		Value type: <prop-encoded-array>
>> +		Definition: u32 value representing worst case latency in
>> +		microseconds required to enter the idle state.
>> +		The exit-latency-us duration may be guaranteed
>> +		only after entry-latency-us has passed.
>> +
>> +	- exit-latency-us
>> +		Usage: Not required if wakeup-latency-us is provided.
>> +		Value type: <prop-encoded-array>
>> +		Definition: u32 value representing worst case latency
>> +		in microseconds required to exit the idle state.
>
>These are part of the existing idle state binding
>(Documentation/devicetree/bindings/arm/idle-states.txt), and I would
>prefer that we did not duplicate this nor come up with an independent
>set of idle state bindings.
>
>> +
>> +	- residency-us:
>> +		Usage: Optional
>> +		Value type: <prop-encoded-array>
>> +		Definition: A u32 value representing the time for which a
>> +		domain must be idle in the state to reap power saving benefits
>> +		of entering the state.
>
>This is "min-residency-us" per the existing bindings.
>
>> +
>> +	- state-param:
>> +		Usage: Optional
>> +		Value type: <prop-encoded-array>
>> +		Definition: A u32 value as defined by the state. May be used
>> +		by the driver to hold state related u32 data. In the case of
>> +		PSCI, an extended state-id for the domain may be encoded in
>> +		this value.
>
>This is "arm,psci-suspend-param", per the existing bindings.
>
>Thanks,
>Mark.

  reply	other threads:[~2016-06-23 18:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-22 19:36 [PATCH 00/14] PM: SoC idle support using PM domains Lina Iyer
2016-06-22 19:36 ` Lina Iyer
2016-06-22 19:36 ` [PATCH 01/14] PM / Domains: Allow domain power states to be read from DT Lina Iyer
2016-06-22 19:36   ` Lina Iyer
2016-06-23 17:38   ` Mark Rutland
2016-06-23 17:38     ` Mark Rutland
     [not found] ` <1466624209-27432-1-git-send-email-lina.iyer-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-22 19:36   ` [PATCH 02/14] dt/bindings: update binding for PM domain idle states Lina Iyer
2016-06-22 19:36     ` Lina Iyer
     [not found]     ` <1466624209-27432-3-git-send-email-lina.iyer-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-23 17:35       ` Mark Rutland
2016-06-23 17:35         ` Mark Rutland
2016-06-23 18:04         ` Lina Iyer [this message]
2016-06-23 18:04           ` Lina Iyer
     [not found]           ` <20160623180451.GD1115-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2016-06-23 18:19             ` Mark Rutland
2016-06-23 18:19               ` Mark Rutland
2016-06-23 18:39               ` Lina Iyer
2016-06-23 18:39                 ` Lina Iyer
2016-07-27 11:11                 ` [draft] " Brendan Jackman
2016-06-22 19:36 ` [PATCH 03/14] PM / Domains: Abstract genpd locking Lina Iyer
2016-06-22 19:36   ` Lina Iyer
2016-06-22 19:36 ` [PATCH 04/14] PM / Domains: Support IRQ safe PM domains Lina Iyer
2016-06-22 19:36   ` Lina Iyer
2016-06-22 19:36 ` [PATCH 05/14] PM / doc: update device documentation for devices in " Lina Iyer
2016-06-22 19:36   ` Lina Iyer
2016-07-25 22:50   ` Kevin Hilman
2016-07-25 22:50     ` Kevin Hilman
2016-07-25 23:21     ` Lina Iyer
2016-07-25 23:21       ` Lina Iyer
2016-06-22 19:36 ` [PATCH 06/14] PM / cpu_domains: Setup PM domains for CPUs/clusters Lina Iyer
2016-06-22 19:36   ` Lina Iyer
2016-06-22 19:36 ` [PATCH 07/14] ARM: cpuidle: Add runtime PM support for CPUs Lina Iyer
2016-06-22 19:36   ` Lina Iyer
2016-06-22 19:36 ` [PATCH 08/14] timer: Export next wake up of a CPU Lina Iyer
2016-06-22 19:36   ` Lina Iyer
2016-07-26 18:26   ` Kevin Hilman
2016-07-26 18:26     ` Kevin Hilman
2016-07-27  9:14   ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-07-27  9:14     ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-07-27 15:04     ` Lina Iyer
2016-07-27 15:04       ` Lina Iyer
2016-06-22 19:36 ` [PATCH 09/14] PM / cpu_domains: Add PM Domain governor for CPUs Lina Iyer
2016-06-22 19:36   ` Lina Iyer
2016-06-22 19:36 ` [PATCH 10/14] doc / cpu_domains: Describe CPU PM domains setup and governor Lina Iyer
2016-06-22 19:36   ` Lina Iyer
2016-06-22 19:36 ` [PATCH 11/14] drivers: firmware: psci: Allow OS Initiated suspend mode Lina Iyer
2016-06-22 19:36   ` Lina Iyer
2016-06-24  4:25   ` Vikas Sajjan
2016-06-24  4:25     ` Vikas Sajjan
2016-06-24 16:53     ` Lina Iyer
2016-06-24 16:53       ` Lina Iyer
2016-06-27 10:12     ` Mark Rutland
2016-06-27 10:12       ` Mark Rutland
2016-06-28  6:07       ` Vikas Sajjan
2016-06-28  6:07         ` Vikas Sajjan
2016-06-22 19:36 ` [PATCH 12/14] drivers: firmware: psci: Support cluster idle states for OS-Initiated Lina Iyer
2016-06-22 19:36   ` Lina Iyer
2016-06-22 19:36 ` [PATCH 13/14] ARM64: dts: Add PSCI cpuidle support for MSM8916 Lina Iyer
2016-06-22 19:36   ` Lina Iyer
2016-06-22 19:36 ` [PATCH 14/14] ARM64: dts: Define CPU power domain " Lina Iyer
2016-06-22 19:36   ` Lina Iyer
2016-07-26 22:08 ` [PATCH 00/14] PM: SoC idle support using PM domains Kevin Hilman
2016-07-26 22:08   ` Kevin Hilman
2016-07-27 15:06   ` Lina Iyer
2016-07-27 15:06     ` Lina Iyer

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