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From: Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
Cc: Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>,
	"linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"open list:AMD IOMMU (AMD-VI)" <iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org" 
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>, Inki Dae <inki.dae@samsung.com>,
	Kukjin Kim <kgene@kernel.org>,
	Krzysztof Kozlowski <k.kozlowski@samsung.com>,
	Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <b.zolnierkie@samsung.com>,
	Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Andreas Noever <andreas.noever@gmail.com>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 02/10] driver core: Functional dependencies tracking support
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 17:23:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160720152340.GA8337@wunner.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3969169.CcnEsvYuly@vostro.rjw.lan>

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 02:52:42PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 08:24:50 AM Lukas Wunner wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 02:33:18AM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > On Friday, June 17, 2016 04:07:38 PM Lukas Wunner wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 02:54:56PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de> wrote:
> > > > > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 08:26:52AM +0200, Marek Szyprowski wrote:
> > > > > > > From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
> > > > > > We also have such a functional dependency for Thunderbolt on Macs:
> > > > > > On resume from system sleep, the PCIe hotplug ports may not resume
> > > > > > before the thunderbolt driver has reestablished the PCI tunnels.
> > > > > > Currently this is enforced by quirk_apple_wait_for_thunderbolt()
> > > > > > in drivers/pci/quirks.c. It would be good if we could represent
> > > > > > this dependency using something like Rafael's approach instead of
> > > > > > open coding it, however one detail in Rafael's patches is problematic:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > New links are added by calling device_link_add() which may happen
> > > > > > > either before the consumer device is probed or when probing it, in
> > > > > > > which case the caller needs to ensure that the driver of the
> > > > > > > supplier device is present and functional and the DEVICE_LINK_PROBE_TIME
> > > > > > > flag should be passed to device_link_add() to reflect that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The thunderbolt driver cannot call device_link_add() before the
> > > > > > PCIe hotplug ports are bound to a driver unless we amend portdrv
> > > > > > to return -EPROBE_DEFER for Thunderbolt hotplug ports on Macs
> > > > > > if the thunderbolt driver isn't loaded.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It would therefore be beneficial if device_link_add() can be
> > > > > > called even *after* the consumer is bound.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I don't quite follow.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Who's the provider and who's the consumer here?
> > > > 
> > > > thunderbolt.ko is the supplier.
> > > 
> > > But it binds to the children of the ports that are supposed to be its
> > > consumers?
> > > 
> > > Why is that even expected to work?
> > 
> > No, the consumers are aunts (or uncles) of the supplier, if you will. :-)
> > 
> > The consumers are the hotplug ports (named "Downstream Bridge 1 / 2" in
> > the drawing below). The supplier is the NHI:
> > 
> >       (Root Port) ---- Upstream Bridge --+-- Downstream Bridge 0 ---- NHI
> >                                          +-- Downstream Bridge 1 --
> >                                          +-- Downstream Bridge 2 --
> >                                          ...
> > 
> > We're calling pci_power_up() and pci_restore_state() from
> > pci_pm_resume_noirq(). And that will fail for devices below
> > the hotplug ports if the PCI tunnels haven't been re-established
> > yet by the NHI.
> 
> So the NHI is a PCIe device, right?
> 
> Does the Thunderbolt driver bind to that device?

The NHI is a PCI device but not a bridge. It has class 0x88000.
Yes, thunderbolt.ko binds to the NHI.

And portdrv binds to the upstream bridge and downstream bridges.
Those have class 0x60400.

Best regards,

Lukas

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From: Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>
Cc: Krzysztof Kozlowski <k.kozlowski@samsung.com>,
	linux-samsung-soc@vger.kernel.org,
	"linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	Bartlomiej Zolnierkiewicz <b.zolnierkie@samsung.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Inki Dae <inki.dae@samsung.com>,
	"open list:AMD IOMMU \(AMD-VI\)"
	<iommu@lists.linux-foundation.org>, Kukjin Kim <kgene@kernel.org>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@kernel.org>,
	linux-pci@vger.kernel.org,
	Andreas Noever <andreas.noever@gmail.com>,
	Ulf Hansson <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
	Marek Szyprowski <m.szyprowski@samsung.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 02/10] driver core: Functional dependencies tracking support
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 17:23:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160720152340.GA8337@wunner.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3969169.CcnEsvYuly@vostro.rjw.lan>

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 02:52:42PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 08:24:50 AM Lukas Wunner wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 02:33:18AM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > On Friday, June 17, 2016 04:07:38 PM Lukas Wunner wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 02:54:56PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de> wrote:
> > > > > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 08:26:52AM +0200, Marek Szyprowski wrote:
> > > > > > > From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
> > > > > > We also have such a functional dependency for Thunderbolt on Macs:
> > > > > > On resume from system sleep, the PCIe hotplug ports may not resume
> > > > > > before the thunderbolt driver has reestablished the PCI tunnels.
> > > > > > Currently this is enforced by quirk_apple_wait_for_thunderbolt()
> > > > > > in drivers/pci/quirks.c. It would be good if we could represent
> > > > > > this dependency using something like Rafael's approach instead of
> > > > > > open coding it, however one detail in Rafael's patches is problematic:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > New links are added by calling device_link_add() which may happen
> > > > > > > either before the consumer device is probed or when probing it, in
> > > > > > > which case the caller needs to ensure that the driver of the
> > > > > > > supplier device is present and functional and the DEVICE_LINK_PROBE_TIME
> > > > > > > flag should be passed to device_link_add() to reflect that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The thunderbolt driver cannot call device_link_add() before the
> > > > > > PCIe hotplug ports are bound to a driver unless we amend portdrv
> > > > > > to return -EPROBE_DEFER for Thunderbolt hotplug ports on Macs
> > > > > > if the thunderbolt driver isn't loaded.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It would therefore be beneficial if device_link_add() can be
> > > > > > called even *after* the consumer is bound.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I don't quite follow.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Who's the provider and who's the consumer here?
> > > > 
> > > > thunderbolt.ko is the supplier.
> > > 
> > > But it binds to the children of the ports that are supposed to be its
> > > consumers?
> > > 
> > > Why is that even expected to work?
> > 
> > No, the consumers are aunts (or uncles) of the supplier, if you will. :-)
> > 
> > The consumers are the hotplug ports (named "Downstream Bridge 1 / 2" in
> > the drawing below). The supplier is the NHI:
> > 
> >       (Root Port) ---- Upstream Bridge --+-- Downstream Bridge 0 ---- NHI
> >                                          +-- Downstream Bridge 1 --
> >                                          +-- Downstream Bridge 2 --
> >                                          ...
> > 
> > We're calling pci_power_up() and pci_restore_state() from
> > pci_pm_resume_noirq(). And that will fail for devices below
> > the hotplug ports if the PCI tunnels haven't been re-established
> > yet by the NHI.
> 
> So the NHI is a PCIe device, right?
> 
> Does the Thunderbolt driver bind to that device?

The NHI is a PCI device but not a bridge. It has class 0x88000.
Yes, thunderbolt.ko binds to the NHI.

And portdrv binds to the upstream bridge and downstream bridges.
Those have class 0x60400.

Best regards,

Lukas

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From: lukas@wunner.de (Lukas Wunner)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v2 02/10] driver core: Functional dependencies tracking support
Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2016 17:23:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160720152340.GA8337@wunner.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3969169.CcnEsvYuly@vostro.rjw.lan>

On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 02:52:42PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 20, 2016 08:24:50 AM Lukas Wunner wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 02:33:18AM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > On Friday, June 17, 2016 04:07:38 PM Lukas Wunner wrote:
> > > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 02:54:56PM +0200, Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
> > > > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 12:36 PM, Lukas Wunner <lukas@wunner.de> wrote:
> > > > > > On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 08:26:52AM +0200, Marek Szyprowski wrote:
> > > > > > > From: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rafael.j.wysocki@intel.com>
> > > > > > We also have such a functional dependency for Thunderbolt on Macs:
> > > > > > On resume from system sleep, the PCIe hotplug ports may not resume
> > > > > > before the thunderbolt driver has reestablished the PCI tunnels.
> > > > > > Currently this is enforced by quirk_apple_wait_for_thunderbolt()
> > > > > > in drivers/pci/quirks.c. It would be good if we could represent
> > > > > > this dependency using something like Rafael's approach instead of
> > > > > > open coding it, however one detail in Rafael's patches is problematic:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > New links are added by calling device_link_add() which may happen
> > > > > > > either before the consumer device is probed or when probing it, in
> > > > > > > which case the caller needs to ensure that the driver of the
> > > > > > > supplier device is present and functional and the DEVICE_LINK_PROBE_TIME
> > > > > > > flag should be passed to device_link_add() to reflect that.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The thunderbolt driver cannot call device_link_add() before the
> > > > > > PCIe hotplug ports are bound to a driver unless we amend portdrv
> > > > > > to return -EPROBE_DEFER for Thunderbolt hotplug ports on Macs
> > > > > > if the thunderbolt driver isn't loaded.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It would therefore be beneficial if device_link_add() can be
> > > > > > called even *after* the consumer is bound.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I don't quite follow.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Who's the provider and who's the consumer here?
> > > > 
> > > > thunderbolt.ko is the supplier.
> > > 
> > > But it binds to the children of the ports that are supposed to be its
> > > consumers?
> > > 
> > > Why is that even expected to work?
> > 
> > No, the consumers are aunts (or uncles) of the supplier, if you will. :-)
> > 
> > The consumers are the hotplug ports (named "Downstream Bridge 1 / 2" in
> > the drawing below). The supplier is the NHI:
> > 
> >       (Root Port) ---- Upstream Bridge --+-- Downstream Bridge 0 ---- NHI
> >                                          +-- Downstream Bridge 1 --
> >                                          +-- Downstream Bridge 2 --
> >                                          ...
> > 
> > We're calling pci_power_up() and pci_restore_state() from
> > pci_pm_resume_noirq(). And that will fail for devices below
> > the hotplug ports if the PCI tunnels haven't been re-established
> > yet by the NHI.
> 
> So the NHI is a PCIe device, right?
> 
> Does the Thunderbolt driver bind to that device?

The NHI is a PCI device but not a bridge. It has class 0x88000.
Yes, thunderbolt.ko binds to the NHI.

And portdrv binds to the upstream bridge and downstream bridges.
Those have class 0x60400.

Best regards,

Lukas

  reply	other threads:[~2016-07-20 15:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 110+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-06-17  6:26 [PATCH v2 00/10] Exynos IOMMU: proper runtime PM support (use device dependencies) Marek Szyprowski
2016-06-17  6:26 ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-06-17  6:26 ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-06-17  6:26 ` [PATCH v2 01/10] driver core: Add a wrapper around __device_release_driver() Marek Szyprowski
2016-06-17  6:26   ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-06-17  6:26   ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-06-17  6:26 ` [PATCH v2 02/10] driver core: Functional dependencies tracking support Marek Szyprowski
2016-06-17  6:26   ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-06-17  6:26   ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-06-17 10:36   ` Lukas Wunner
2016-06-17 10:36     ` Lukas Wunner
2016-06-17 12:54     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-06-17 12:54       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-06-17 12:54       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-06-17 14:07       ` Lukas Wunner
2016-06-17 14:07         ` Lukas Wunner
2016-06-17 14:07         ` Lukas Wunner
2016-07-20  0:33         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-07-20  0:33           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-07-20  0:33           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-07-20  0:33           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-07-20  6:24           ` Lukas Wunner
2016-07-20  6:24             ` Lukas Wunner
2016-07-20  6:24             ` Lukas Wunner
2016-07-20  6:24             ` Lukas Wunner
2016-07-20 12:52             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-07-20 12:52               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-07-20 12:52               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-07-20 12:52               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-07-20 15:23               ` Lukas Wunner [this message]
2016-07-20 15:23                 ` Lukas Wunner
2016-07-20 15:23                 ` Lukas Wunner
2016-07-20 15:23                 ` Lukas Wunner
2016-07-20 22:51                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-07-20 22:51                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-07-20 22:51                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-07-20 22:51                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-07-20 23:25                   ` Lukas Wunner
2016-07-20 23:25                     ` Lukas Wunner
2016-07-20 23:25                     ` Lukas Wunner
2016-07-20 23:25                     ` Lukas Wunner
2016-07-21  0:25                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-07-21  0:25                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-07-21  0:25                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-07-21  0:25                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-07-24 22:48                       ` Lukas Wunner
2016-07-24 22:48                         ` Lukas Wunner
2016-07-24 22:48                         ` Lukas Wunner
2016-07-28  0:30                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-07-28  0:30                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-07-28  0:30                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-07-28 15:28                           ` Lukas Wunner
2016-07-28 15:28                             ` Lukas Wunner
2016-07-28 15:28                             ` Lukas Wunner
2016-09-06 23:57                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-06 23:57                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-06 23:57                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-06 23:57                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-06-17  6:26 ` [PATCH v2 03/10] PM core: Make async suspend/resume of devices use device links Marek Szyprowski
2016-06-17  6:26   ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-06-17  6:26   ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-06-17  6:26 ` [PATCH v2 04/10] PM core: Make runtime PM " Marek Szyprowski
2016-06-17  6:26   ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-06-17  6:26   ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-06-17  6:26 ` [PATCH v2 05/10] PM core: Optimize the use of device links for runtime PM Marek Szyprowski
2016-06-17  6:26   ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-06-17  6:26   ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-06-17  6:26 ` [PATCH v2 06/10] driver core: Avoid endless recursion if device has more than one link Marek Szyprowski
2016-06-17  6:26   ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-06-17  6:26   ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-09-06 23:09   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-06 23:09     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-06 23:09     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-06-17  6:26 ` [PATCH v2 07/10] driver core: Add support for links to already probed drivers Marek Szyprowski
2016-06-17  6:26   ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-06-17  6:26   ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-09-06 23:13   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-06 23:13     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-06-17  6:26 ` [PATCH v2 08/10] PM core: Fix restoring devices with links during system PM transition Marek Szyprowski
2016-06-17  6:26   ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-06-17  6:26   ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-09-06 23:24   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-09-06 23:24     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2016-06-17  6:26 ` [PATCH v2 09/10] iommu/exynos: Remove excessive, useless debug Marek Szyprowski
2016-06-17  6:26   ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-06-17  6:26   ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-06-17  6:27 ` [PATCH v2 10/10] iommu/exynos: Add proper runtime pm support Marek Szyprowski
2016-06-17  6:27   ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-06-17  6:27   ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-07-14 15:41 ` [PATCH v2 00/10] Exynos IOMMU: proper runtime PM support (use device dependencies) Tobias Jakobi
2016-07-14 15:41   ` Tobias Jakobi
2016-07-15 13:21   ` Tobias Jakobi
2016-07-15 13:21     ` Tobias Jakobi
2016-07-15 13:21     ` Tobias Jakobi
2016-07-18 10:32     ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-07-18 10:32       ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-07-18 11:00       ` Tobias Jakobi
2016-07-18 11:00         ` Tobias Jakobi
2016-07-18 13:50         ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-07-18 13:50           ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-07-18 13:50           ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-07-18 16:43           ` Tobias Jakobi
2016-07-18 16:43             ` Tobias Jakobi
2016-07-18 16:43             ` Tobias Jakobi
2016-07-19  6:26             ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-07-19  6:26               ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-07-19  6:26               ` Marek Szyprowski
2016-07-24 18:02               ` Tobias Jakobi
2016-07-24 18:02                 ` Tobias Jakobi
2016-07-24 18:02                 ` Tobias Jakobi

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