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From: Vinod Koul <vinod.koul@intel.com>
To: Sinan Kaya <okaya@codeaurora.org>
Cc: Russell King - ARM Linux <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, timur@codeaurora.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	Christopher Covington <cov@codeaurora.org>,
	dmaengine@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] dmaengine: qcom_hidma: release the descriptor before the callback
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 14:32:03 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160808090203.GY9681@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cff588a1-d85f-3d2c-ef61-1674d0d3ca92@codeaurora.org>

On Thu, Aug 04, 2016 at 11:27:46AM -0400, Sinan Kaya wrote:
> On 8/4/2016 10:40 AM, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 04, 2016 at 10:17:24AM -0400, Sinan Kaya wrote:
> >> On 8/4/2016 8:55 AM, Vinod Koul wrote:
> >>> Dmaengine tells transaction is complete. It does not say if the txn is
> >>> success or failure. It can transfer data and not say if data was
> >>> correct. A successful transaction implies data integrity as well, which
> >>> dmaengine can't provide.
> >>
> >> Thanks for describing this. I was confused about DMA_SUCCESS and DMA_COMPLETE.
> >> I now understand that tx_success API just returns information that the request
> >> was executed whether the result is error or not. This makes sense now.
> >>
> >> However, if the txn is failure; then we should never call the client callback
> >> since DMA engine cannot provide such feedback to the client without Dave's patch.
> >> You are saying that the calling the callback is optional.
> >>
> >> Then, the callback cannot be optional in the error case for old behavior.
> >>
> >> How does the client know if memcpy executed or not? The client got its callback
> >> and tx_status is also DMA_COMPLETE.
> > 
> > If an error occurred, then dma_async_is_tx_complete() is supposed to
> > return DMA_ERROR.  It's up to the DMA engine driver to ensure that
> > this happens if it has error detection abilities.
> > 
> 
> Well, that's not what I'm getting from Vinod and also from the current usage
> in most of the drivers that I looked.

Sorry but, you are not interpreting it correctly. Me and Russell are saying the
same thing!

> 
> The current drivers implement tx_status as follows.
> 
> static enum dma_status xyz_tx_status(struct dma_chan *chan,
> 	dma_cookie_t cookie, struct dma_tx_state *state) 
> {
> ...
> 	ret = dma_cookie_status(&c->vc.chan, cookie, state);
> 	if (ret == DMA_COMPLETE)
> 		return ret; 
> ...
> }
> 
> What Vinod is telling me that I need to set the cookie to complete 
> whether the transaction is successful or not if the request was accepted
> by HW. xyz_tx_status is just an indication that the transaction was accepted
> by HW. An error can happen as a result of transaction execution.

Nope, if the txn is completed you mark it complete. If you can detect error
(can you??) then you can report DMA_ERROR.

In that latter case do not use dma_async_is_complete() to check. You would
need to store and report that cookie 'x' failed which you report status in
.tx_statis()

> 
> If I call dma_cookie_complete for all transactions regardless of transaction
> success or not, then the xyz_tx_status returns DMA_COMPLETE. 

Again that is based on your implementation.

> This also matches what Vinod is saying. The transaction is complete but
> it may not be success. I'm saying that if we follow this scheme, then
> we should not call the callback.

That is not in driver's control. If the callback is set, you have to call
it. Client may choose to not set it.

> I also made the argument that the driver should not call dma_cookie_complete
> for failure cases and somehow return an error for transactions that failed. 
> This is your suggestion.
> 
> I don't think it matches Vinod's expectation.

It does!

> > Most of the helpers in drivers/dma/dmaengine.h are there to _assist_
> > the driver writer - they can't do magic.  dma_cookie_status() will
> > return from the point of view of the generic DMA code what the status
> > of a particular cookie is, and the cookie state.  It doesn't take
> > care of whether a particular transaction associated with a cookie
> > failed or not - that's up to the driver.
> > 
> > So, if dma_cookie_status() says that a cookie has DMA_COMPLETED
> > status, and the DMA engine is able to detect errors on individual
> > transfers, then the driver needs to do further status lookup to
> > determine whether the particular transaction referred to by the
> > cookie did fail, and modify the returned status appropriately.
> > 
> > If dma_cookie_status() says that the cookie is DMA_IN_PROGRESS,
> > then the driver is expected to calculate and report the residue
> > (the remaining number of bytes) of the referred to transaction.
> > 
> 
> This part is fine. I'm worried about transactions that are failing.

And you issue is complete orthogonal to this debate. I am not saying we
should not discuss this, but you fix would be entirely different here (going
by data you have provided till now)

-- 
~Vinod

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: vinod.koul@intel.com (Vinod Koul)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH] dmaengine: qcom_hidma: release the descriptor before the callback
Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2016 14:32:03 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160808090203.GY9681@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <cff588a1-d85f-3d2c-ef61-1674d0d3ca92@codeaurora.org>

On Thu, Aug 04, 2016 at 11:27:46AM -0400, Sinan Kaya wrote:
> On 8/4/2016 10:40 AM, Russell King - ARM Linux wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 04, 2016 at 10:17:24AM -0400, Sinan Kaya wrote:
> >> On 8/4/2016 8:55 AM, Vinod Koul wrote:
> >>> Dmaengine tells transaction is complete. It does not say if the txn is
> >>> success or failure. It can transfer data and not say if data was
> >>> correct. A successful transaction implies data integrity as well, which
> >>> dmaengine can't provide.
> >>
> >> Thanks for describing this. I was confused about DMA_SUCCESS and DMA_COMPLETE.
> >> I now understand that tx_success API just returns information that the request
> >> was executed whether the result is error or not. This makes sense now.
> >>
> >> However, if the txn is failure; then we should never call the client callback
> >> since DMA engine cannot provide such feedback to the client without Dave's patch.
> >> You are saying that the calling the callback is optional.
> >>
> >> Then, the callback cannot be optional in the error case for old behavior.
> >>
> >> How does the client know if memcpy executed or not? The client got its callback
> >> and tx_status is also DMA_COMPLETE.
> > 
> > If an error occurred, then dma_async_is_tx_complete() is supposed to
> > return DMA_ERROR.  It's up to the DMA engine driver to ensure that
> > this happens if it has error detection abilities.
> > 
> 
> Well, that's not what I'm getting from Vinod and also from the current usage
> in most of the drivers that I looked.

Sorry but, you are not interpreting it correctly. Me and Russell are saying the
same thing!

> 
> The current drivers implement tx_status as follows.
> 
> static enum dma_status xyz_tx_status(struct dma_chan *chan,
> 	dma_cookie_t cookie, struct dma_tx_state *state) 
> {
> ...
> 	ret = dma_cookie_status(&c->vc.chan, cookie, state);
> 	if (ret == DMA_COMPLETE)
> 		return ret; 
> ...
> }
> 
> What Vinod is telling me that I need to set the cookie to complete 
> whether the transaction is successful or not if the request was accepted
> by HW. xyz_tx_status is just an indication that the transaction was accepted
> by HW. An error can happen as a result of transaction execution.

Nope, if the txn is completed you mark it complete. If you can detect error
(can you??) then you can report DMA_ERROR.

In that latter case do not use dma_async_is_complete() to check. You would
need to store and report that cookie 'x' failed which you report status in
.tx_statis()

> 
> If I call dma_cookie_complete for all transactions regardless of transaction
> success or not, then the xyz_tx_status returns DMA_COMPLETE. 

Again that is based on your implementation.

> This also matches what Vinod is saying. The transaction is complete but
> it may not be success. I'm saying that if we follow this scheme, then
> we should not call the callback.

That is not in driver's control. If the callback is set, you have to call
it. Client may choose to not set it.

> I also made the argument that the driver should not call dma_cookie_complete
> for failure cases and somehow return an error for transactions that failed. 
> This is your suggestion.
> 
> I don't think it matches Vinod's expectation.

It does!

> > Most of the helpers in drivers/dma/dmaengine.h are there to _assist_
> > the driver writer - they can't do magic.  dma_cookie_status() will
> > return from the point of view of the generic DMA code what the status
> > of a particular cookie is, and the cookie state.  It doesn't take
> > care of whether a particular transaction associated with a cookie
> > failed or not - that's up to the driver.
> > 
> > So, if dma_cookie_status() says that a cookie has DMA_COMPLETED
> > status, and the DMA engine is able to detect errors on individual
> > transfers, then the driver needs to do further status lookup to
> > determine whether the particular transaction referred to by the
> > cookie did fail, and modify the returned status appropriately.
> > 
> > If dma_cookie_status() says that the cookie is DMA_IN_PROGRESS,
> > then the driver is expected to calculate and report the residue
> > (the remaining number of bytes) of the referred to transaction.
> > 
> 
> This part is fine. I'm worried about transactions that are failing.

And you issue is complete orthogonal to this debate. I am not saying we
should not discuss this, but you fix would be entirely different here (going
by data you have provided till now)

-- 
~Vinod

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-08-08  9:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-07-14  2:57 [PATCH] dmaengine: qcom_hidma: release the descriptor before the callback Sinan Kaya
2016-07-14  2:57 ` Sinan Kaya
2016-07-16  1:00 ` Sinan Kaya
2016-07-16  1:00   ` Sinan Kaya
2016-07-24  6:24   ` Vinod Koul
2016-07-24  6:24     ` Vinod Koul
2016-07-25 14:19     ` Sinan Kaya
2016-07-25 14:19       ` Sinan Kaya
2016-08-04 12:55       ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-04 12:55         ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-04 12:55         ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-04 14:17         ` Sinan Kaya
2016-08-04 14:17           ` Sinan Kaya
2016-08-04 14:40           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-08-04 14:40             ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-08-04 15:27             ` Sinan Kaya
2016-08-04 15:27               ` Sinan Kaya
2016-08-04 15:38               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-08-04 15:38                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2016-08-04 15:59                 ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2016-08-04 15:59                   ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2016-08-08  9:08                   ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-08  9:08                     ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-08 12:25                     ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2016-08-08 12:25                       ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2016-08-10 17:23                       ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-10 17:23                         ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-10 17:23                         ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-04 16:08                 ` Sinan Kaya
2016-08-04 16:08                   ` Sinan Kaya
2016-08-04 16:15                   ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2016-08-04 16:15                     ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2016-08-05  6:32                     ` Robert Jarzmik
2016-08-05  6:32                       ` Robert Jarzmik
2016-08-05  8:34                       ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2016-08-05  8:34                         ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2016-08-05  8:34                         ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2016-08-05 15:17                         ` Sinan Kaya
2016-08-05 15:17                           ` Sinan Kaya
2016-08-08  9:02               ` Vinod Koul [this message]
2016-08-08  9:02                 ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-08 14:45                 ` Sinan Kaya
2016-08-08 14:45                   ` Sinan Kaya
2016-08-10 17:28                   ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-10 17:28                     ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-10 17:28                     ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-10 17:31                     ` Sinan Kaya
2016-08-10 17:31                       ` Sinan Kaya
2016-08-10 17:31                       ` Sinan Kaya
2016-08-19  2:48                       ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-19  2:48                         ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-19  3:26                         ` Sinan Kaya
2016-08-19  3:26                           ` Sinan Kaya
2016-08-19  3:26                           ` Sinan Kaya
2016-08-19  3:42                           ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-19  3:42                             ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-19  3:48                             ` Sinan Kaya
2016-08-19  3:48                               ` Sinan Kaya
2016-08-19  5:52                               ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-19  5:52                                 ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-19 11:13                                 ` okaya
2016-08-19 11:13                                   ` okaya at codeaurora.org
2016-08-19 11:13                                   ` okaya
2016-08-19 17:02                                   ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-19 17:02                                     ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-19 17:02                                     ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-19 17:21                                     ` Sinan Kaya
2016-08-19 17:21                                       ` Sinan Kaya
2016-08-19 17:21                                       ` Sinan Kaya
2016-08-22  6:08                                       ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-22  6:08                                         ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-22  6:08                                         ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-22 13:27                                         ` Sinan Kaya
2016-08-22 13:27                                           ` Sinan Kaya
2016-08-22 17:00                                           ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-22 17:00                                             ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-08  8:51           ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-08  8:51             ` Vinod Koul
2016-08-08 12:10             ` okaya
2016-08-08 12:10               ` okaya at codeaurora.org

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