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From: Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>
To: Rich Felker <dalias-8zAoT0mYgF4@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Daniel Lezcano
	<daniel.lezcano-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-sh-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 2/2] clocksource: add J-Core timer/clocksource driver
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 19:01:52 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160824200152.33be0707@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160824174001.GW15995-C3MtFaGISjmo6RMmaWD+6Sb1p8zYI1N1@public.gmane.org>

On Wed, 24 Aug 2016 13:40:01 -0400
Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org> wrote:

[...]

> > IIUC, there is a problem with the interrupt controller where
the per irq
> > line are not working correctly. Is that correct ?  
> 
> I don't think that's a correct characterization. Rather the percpu
> infrastructure just means something completely different from what you
> would expect it to mean. It has nothing to do with the hardware but
> rather with kernel-internal choice of whether to do percpu devid
> mapping inside the irq infrastructure, and the choice at the
> irq-requester side of whether to do this is required to match the
> irqchip driver's choice. I explained this better in another email
> which I could dig up if necessary, but the essence is that
> request_percpu_irq is a misnamed and unusably broken API.

Or just one that simply doesn't fit your needs, because other
architectures have different semantics than the ones you take for
granted?

> 
> > Regarding Marc Zyngier comments about the irq controller driver being
> > almost empty, I'm wondering if something in the irq controller driver
> > which shouldn't be added before submitting this timer driver with SMP
> > support (eg. irq domain ?).  
> 
> I don't think so. At most I could make the driver hard-code the percpu
> devid model for certain irqs, but that _does not reflect_ anything
> about the hardware. Rather it just reflects bad kernel internals. It

I'd appreciate it if instead of ranting about how broken the kernel is,
you'd submit a patch fixing it, since you seem to have spotted
something that we haven't in several years of using that code on a
couple of ARM-related platforms.

Thanks,

	M.
-- 
Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>
To: Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>
Cc: Daniel Lezcano <daniel.lezcano@linaro.org>,
	<devicetree@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-sh@vger.kernel.org>, Rob Herring <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 2/2] clocksource: add J-Core timer/clocksource driver
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 20:01:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160824200152.33be0707@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160824174001.GW15995@brightrain.aerifal.cx>

On Wed, 24 Aug 2016 13:40:01 -0400
Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org> wrote:

[...]

> > IIUC, there is a problem with the interrupt controller where
the per irq
> > line are not working correctly. Is that correct ?  
> 
> I don't think that's a correct characterization. Rather the percpu
> infrastructure just means something completely different from what you
> would expect it to mean. It has nothing to do with the hardware but
> rather with kernel-internal choice of whether to do percpu devid
> mapping inside the irq infrastructure, and the choice at the
> irq-requester side of whether to do this is required to match the
> irqchip driver's choice. I explained this better in another email
> which I could dig up if necessary, but the essence is that
> request_percpu_irq is a misnamed and unusably broken API.

Or just one that simply doesn't fit your needs, because other
architectures have different semantics than the ones you take for
granted?

> 
> > Regarding Marc Zyngier comments about the irq controller driver being
> > almost empty, I'm wondering if something in the irq controller driver
> > which shouldn't be added before submitting this timer driver with SMP
> > support (eg. irq domain ?).  
> 
> I don't think so. At most I could make the driver hard-code the percpu
> devid model for certain irqs, but that _does not reflect_ anything
> about the hardware. Rather it just reflects bad kernel internals. It

I'd appreciate it if instead of ranting about how broken the kernel is,
you'd submit a patch fixing it, since you seem to have spotted
something that we haven't in several years of using that code on a
couple of ARM-related platforms.

Thanks,

	M.
-- 
Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>
To: Rich Felker <dalias-8zAoT0mYgF4@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Daniel Lezcano
	<daniel.lezcano-QSEj5FYQhm4dnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-sh-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Rob Herring <robh+dt-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx-hfZtesqFncYOwBW4kG4KsQ@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v6 2/2] clocksource: add J-Core timer/clocksource driver
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2016 20:01:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160824200152.33be0707@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160824174001.GW15995-C3MtFaGISjmo6RMmaWD+6Sb1p8zYI1N1@public.gmane.org>

On Wed, 24 Aug 2016 13:40:01 -0400
Rich Felker <dalias-8zAoT0mYgF4@public.gmane.org> wrote:

[...]

> > IIUC, there is a problem with the interrupt controller where
the per irq
> > line are not working correctly. Is that correct ?  
> 
> I don't think that's a correct characterization. Rather the percpu
> infrastructure just means something completely different from what you
> would expect it to mean. It has nothing to do with the hardware but
> rather with kernel-internal choice of whether to do percpu devid
> mapping inside the irq infrastructure, and the choice at the
> irq-requester side of whether to do this is required to match the
> irqchip driver's choice. I explained this better in another email
> which I could dig up if necessary, but the essence is that
> request_percpu_irq is a misnamed and unusably broken API.

Or just one that simply doesn't fit your needs, because other
architectures have different semantics than the ones you take for
granted?

> 
> > Regarding Marc Zyngier comments about the irq controller driver being
> > almost empty, I'm wondering if something in the irq controller driver
> > which shouldn't be added before submitting this timer driver with SMP
> > support (eg. irq domain ?).  
> 
> I don't think so. At most I could make the driver hard-code the percpu
> devid model for certain irqs, but that _does not reflect_ anything
> about the hardware. Rather it just reflects bad kernel internals. It

I'd appreciate it if instead of ranting about how broken the kernel is,
you'd submit a patch fixing it, since you seem to have spotted
something that we haven't in several years of using that code on a
couple of ARM-related platforms.

Thanks,

	M.
-- 
Jazz is not dead. It just smells funny.
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-08-24 19:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 68+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-03  0:18 [PATCH v6 0/2] J-Core timer support Rich Felker
2016-08-03  0:18 ` Rich Felker
     [not found] ` <cover.1470183518.git.dalias-8zAoT0mYgF4@public.gmane.org>
2016-03-17 23:12   ` [PATCH v6 2/2] clocksource: add J-Core timer/clocksource driver Rich Felker
2016-03-17 23:12     ` Rich Felker
2016-03-17 23:12     ` Rich Felker
2016-05-17 23:18 ` [PATCH v6 1/2] of: add J-Core timer bindings Rich Felker
2016-08-04  4:30 ` [PATCH v6 0/2] J-Core timer support Rich Felker
2016-08-04  4:30   ` Rich Felker
2016-08-04  4:30   ` Rich Felker
     [not found]   ` <cover.147018b3518.git.dalias-8zAoT0mYgF4@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-04  4:30     ` [PATCH v6 1/2] of: add J-Core timer bindings Rich Felker
2016-08-04  4:30       ` Rich Felker
2016-08-04  4:30       ` Rich Felker
     [not found]       ` <5e1d4f3346f69bdd9d840c8b5a855c1f93ff93f6.147018b3518.git.dalias-8zAoT0mYgF4@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-04 18:16         ` Rob Herring
2016-08-04 18:16           ` Rob Herring
2016-08-04 18:16           ` Rob Herring
2016-08-04  4:30     ` [PATCH v6 2/2] clocksource: add J-Core timer/clocksource driver Rich Felker
2016-08-04  4:30       ` Rich Felker
2016-08-04  4:30       ` Rich Felker
2016-08-04  8:24       ` Alexnader Kuleshov
2016-08-04  8:24         ` Alexnader Kuleshov
2016-08-04 19:42         ` Rich Felker
2016-08-04 19:42           ` Rich Felker
2016-08-24 16:42       ` Daniel Lezcano
2016-08-24 16:42         ` Daniel Lezcano
2016-08-24 17:40         ` Rich Felker
2016-08-24 17:40           ` Rich Felker
     [not found]           ` <20160824174001.GW15995-C3MtFaGISjmo6RMmaWD+6Sb1p8zYI1N1@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-24 19:01             ` Marc Zyngier [this message]
2016-08-24 19:01               ` Marc Zyngier
2016-08-24 19:01               ` Marc Zyngier
2016-08-24 19:20               ` Rich Felker
2016-08-24 19:20                 ` Rich Felker
     [not found]                 ` <20160824192009.GX15995-C3MtFaGISjmo6RMmaWD+6Sb1p8zYI1N1@public.gmane.org>
2016-08-24 22:21                   ` Mark Rutland
2016-08-24 22:21                     ` Mark Rutland
2016-08-24 22:21                     ` Mark Rutland
2016-08-24 20:01           ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-08-24 20:01             ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-08-24 20:52             ` Rich Felker
2016-08-24 20:52               ` Rich Felker
2016-08-24 21:22               ` Mark Rutland
2016-08-24 21:22                 ` Mark Rutland
2016-08-24 21:44                 ` Rich Felker
2016-08-24 21:44                   ` Rich Felker
2016-08-24 21:44                   ` Rich Felker
2016-08-24 21:57                   ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-08-24 21:57                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-08-25 10:23                     ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-08-25 10:23                       ` Arnd Bergmann
2016-08-24 22:54                   ` Mark Rutland
2016-08-24 22:54                     ` Mark Rutland
2016-08-25  8:07           ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-08-25  8:07             ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-08-25 14:56             ` Rich Felker
2016-08-25 14:56               ` Rich Felker
2016-08-25 14:56               ` Rich Felker
2016-08-25 15:41               ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-08-25 15:41                 ` Thomas Gleixner
2016-08-25 17:45                 ` Rich Felker
2016-08-25 17:45                   ` Rich Felker
2016-08-25 16:38               ` Mark Rutland
2016-08-25 16:38                 ` Mark Rutland
2016-08-25 17:51                 ` Rich Felker
2016-08-25 17:51                   ` Rich Felker
2016-08-25 18:21                   ` Mark Rutland
2016-08-25 18:21                     ` Mark Rutland
2016-08-25 19:20                     ` Rich Felker
2016-08-25 19:20                       ` Rich Felker
2016-08-26  9:04           ` Daniel Lezcano
2016-08-26  9:04             ` Daniel Lezcano

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