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From: Zach Brown <zach.brown@ni.com>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: <adrian.hunter@intel.com>, <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	<ulf.hansson@linaro.org>, <linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org>,
	<devicetree@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<michal.simek@xilinx.com>, <soren.brinkmann@xilinx.com>,
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>, <lars@metafoo.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] sdhci-of-arasan: Add quirk and device tree parameter to fake CD bit
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 13:26:22 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160825182621.GA14817@zach-desktop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160825180959.GA14705@remoulade>

On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 07:10:00PM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:15:44PM -0500, Zach Brown wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 11:56:55AM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
> > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 06:23:03PM -0500, Zach Brown wrote:
> > > > +- fake-cd: On Zynq Devices the SDHCI Controller will not work without the cd
> > > > +  bit. When this option is set the driver will put the controller in test mode
> > > > +  and fake the cd bit so it will function.
> > > 
> > > As Lars noted, the DT should describe the HW, and the policy of how to deal
> > > with that should be left to the kernel. So from a DT perspective the above is
> > > not correct.
> > > 
> > > If I understand the linked documentation, this is slightly different to typical
> > > uses of broken-cd in that in the absence of a card detect signal the HW will
> > > not be able to access the SD card at all, even if requested to. Is that correct?
> > > 
> > > If so, perhaps a better option is to have the combination of broken-cd and the
> > > compatible string for this IP block imply that the test mode workaround is
> > > required. Obviously that requires a fixup to the usual broken-cd binding to
> > > remove the implication that polling alone must be used.
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Mark.
> > 
> > In cases where the card is non-removable then polling doesn't make sense.
> 
> We have the non-removable property to describe that, so we can also look at that.
> 
> > So it doesn't make sense to tie the test mode workaround into the broken-cd
> > property, even though I agree the nature of the defect fits under the notion
> > of the CD being broken.
> 
> Maybe not solely on broken-cd, but I think that we dont necessarily need a new
> DT property. As above, broken-cd, non-removable, and the compatible string may
> together give the kernel enough information to choose the right thing to do.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mark.

I'm not sure if I understand your suggestion completely. Are you suggesting
setting both the broken-cd and non-removable properties? That would make sense,
but my understanding was that the two properities are not meant to co-exist. In
/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mmc/mmc.txt it states that only one should
be supplied. Don't the two properties conflict with each other?

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Zach Brown <zach.brown@ni.com>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: devicetree@vger.kernel.org, ulf.hansson@linaro.org,
	lars@metafoo.de, linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org,
	adrian.hunter@intel.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	robh+dt@kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	michal.simek@xilinx.com, soren.brinkmann@xilinx.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/2] sdhci-of-arasan: Add quirk and device tree parameter to fake CD bit
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 13:26:22 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160825182621.GA14817@zach-desktop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160825180959.GA14705@remoulade>

On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 07:10:00PM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:15:44PM -0500, Zach Brown wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 11:56:55AM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
> > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 06:23:03PM -0500, Zach Brown wrote:
> > > > +- fake-cd: On Zynq Devices the SDHCI Controller will not work without the cd
> > > > +  bit. When this option is set the driver will put the controller in test mode
> > > > +  and fake the cd bit so it will function.
> > > 
> > > As Lars noted, the DT should describe the HW, and the policy of how to deal
> > > with that should be left to the kernel. So from a DT perspective the above is
> > > not correct.
> > > 
> > > If I understand the linked documentation, this is slightly different to typical
> > > uses of broken-cd in that in the absence of a card detect signal the HW will
> > > not be able to access the SD card at all, even if requested to. Is that correct?
> > > 
> > > If so, perhaps a better option is to have the combination of broken-cd and the
> > > compatible string for this IP block imply that the test mode workaround is
> > > required. Obviously that requires a fixup to the usual broken-cd binding to
> > > remove the implication that polling alone must be used.
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Mark.
> > 
> > In cases where the card is non-removable then polling doesn't make sense.
> 
> We have the non-removable property to describe that, so we can also look at that.
> 
> > So it doesn't make sense to tie the test mode workaround into the broken-cd
> > property, even though I agree the nature of the defect fits under the notion
> > of the CD being broken.
> 
> Maybe not solely on broken-cd, but I think that we dont necessarily need a new
> DT property. As above, broken-cd, non-removable, and the compatible string may
> together give the kernel enough information to choose the right thing to do.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mark.

I'm not sure if I understand your suggestion completely. Are you suggesting
setting both the broken-cd and non-removable properties? That would make sense,
but my understanding was that the two properities are not meant to co-exist. In
/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mmc/mmc.txt it states that only one should
be supplied. Don't the two properties conflict with each other?

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: zach.brown@ni.com (Zach Brown)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 1/2] sdhci-of-arasan: Add quirk and device tree parameter to fake CD bit
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 13:26:22 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20160825182621.GA14817@zach-desktop> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20160825180959.GA14705@remoulade>

On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 07:10:00PM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:15:44PM -0500, Zach Brown wrote:
> > On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 11:56:55AM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
> > > On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 06:23:03PM -0500, Zach Brown wrote:
> > > > +- fake-cd: On Zynq Devices the SDHCI Controller will not work without the cd
> > > > +  bit. When this option is set the driver will put the controller in test mode
> > > > +  and fake the cd bit so it will function.
> > > 
> > > As Lars noted, the DT should describe the HW, and the policy of how to deal
> > > with that should be left to the kernel. So from a DT perspective the above is
> > > not correct.
> > > 
> > > If I understand the linked documentation, this is slightly different to typical
> > > uses of broken-cd in that in the absence of a card detect signal the HW will
> > > not be able to access the SD card at all, even if requested to. Is that correct?
> > > 
> > > If so, perhaps a better option is to have the combination of broken-cd and the
> > > compatible string for this IP block imply that the test mode workaround is
> > > required. Obviously that requires a fixup to the usual broken-cd binding to
> > > remove the implication that polling alone must be used.
> > > 
> > > Thanks,
> > > Mark.
> > 
> > In cases where the card is non-removable then polling doesn't make sense.
> 
> We have the non-removable property to describe that, so we can also look at that.
> 
> > So it doesn't make sense to tie the test mode workaround into the broken-cd
> > property, even though I agree the nature of the defect fits under the notion
> > of the CD being broken.
> 
> Maybe not solely on broken-cd, but I think that we dont necessarily need a new
> DT property. As above, broken-cd, non-removable, and the compatible string may
> together give the kernel enough information to choose the right thing to do.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mark.

I'm not sure if I understand your suggestion completely. Are you suggesting
setting both the broken-cd and non-removable properties? That would make sense,
but my understanding was that the two properities are not meant to co-exist. In
/Documentation/devicetree/bindings/mmc/mmc.txt it states that only one should
be supplied. Don't the two properties conflict with each other?

  reply	other threads:[~2016-08-25 19:04 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-08-24 23:23 [PATCH 1/2] sdhci-of-arasan: Add quirk and device tree parameter to fake CD bit Zach Brown
2016-08-24 23:23 ` Zach Brown
2016-08-24 23:23 ` [PATCH 2/2] " Zach Brown
2016-08-24 23:23   ` Zach Brown
2016-08-24 23:23   ` Zach Brown
2016-08-25  1:08   ` Shawn Lin
2016-08-25  1:08     ` Shawn Lin
2016-08-25  6:56   ` kbuild test robot
2016-08-25  6:56     ` kbuild test robot
2016-08-25  6:56     ` kbuild test robot
2016-08-25  8:50   ` Adrian Hunter
2016-08-25  8:50     ` Adrian Hunter
2016-08-25  8:50     ` Adrian Hunter
2016-08-25 10:37   ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2016-08-25 10:37     ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2016-08-25 10:37     ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2016-08-25 10:56 ` [PATCH 1/2] " Mark Rutland
2016-08-25 10:56   ` Mark Rutland
2016-08-25 17:15   ` Zach Brown
2016-08-25 17:15     ` Zach Brown
2016-08-25 17:15     ` Zach Brown
2016-08-25 18:10     ` Mark Rutland
2016-08-25 18:10       ` Mark Rutland
2016-08-25 18:10       ` Mark Rutland
2016-08-25 18:26       ` Zach Brown [this message]
2016-08-25 18:26         ` Zach Brown
2016-08-25 18:26         ` Zach Brown
2016-08-25 18:28         ` Mark Rutland
2016-08-25 18:28           ` Mark Rutland
2016-08-25 18:28           ` Mark Rutland
2016-08-25 20:46           ` Zach Brown
2016-08-25 20:46             ` Zach Brown
2016-08-25 20:46             ` Zach Brown
2016-08-26  7:42             ` Ulf Hansson
2016-08-26  7:42               ` Ulf Hansson
2016-08-26 22:29               ` Zach Brown
2016-08-26 22:29                 ` Zach Brown
2016-08-26 22:29                 ` Zach Brown
2016-08-29 11:21                 ` Ulf Hansson
2016-08-29 11:21                   ` Ulf Hansson
2016-08-25 15:10 ` Sören Brinkmann
2016-08-25 15:10   ` Sören Brinkmann
2016-08-25 15:10   ` Sören Brinkmann
2016-08-25 15:23   ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2016-08-25 15:23     ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2016-08-25 15:23     ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2016-08-25 15:29     ` Sören Brinkmann
2016-08-25 15:29       ` Sören Brinkmann
2016-08-25 15:29       ` Sören Brinkmann
2016-08-25 15:50       ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2016-08-25 15:50         ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2016-08-25 15:50         ` Lars-Peter Clausen

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