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From: Jann Horn <jann@thejh.net>
To: "Roberts, William C" <william.c.roberts@intel.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>,
	"kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com" 
	<kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com>,
	"corbet@lwn.net" <corbet@lwn.net>,
	"linux-doc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-doc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [kernel-hardening] RE: [PATCH] printk: introduce kptr_restrict level 3
Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2016 16:46:56 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161006144656.GZ14666@pc.thejh.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161006140553.GY14666@pc.thejh.net>

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On Thu, Oct 06, 2016 at 04:05:53PM +0200, Jann Horn wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 06, 2016 at 01:47:47PM +0000, Roberts, William C wrote:
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Christoph Hellwig [mailto:hch@infradead.org]
> > > Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:32 AM
> > > To: Roberts, William C <william.c.roberts@intel.com>
> > > Cc: kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com; corbet@lwn.net; linux-
> > > doc@vger.kernel.org; linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
> > > Subject: Re: [PATCH] printk: introduce kptr_restrict level 3
> > > 
> > > On Wed, Oct 05, 2016 at 02:04:46PM -0400, william.c.roberts@intel.com wrote:
> > > > From: William Roberts <william.c.roberts@intel.com>
> > > >
> > > > Some out-of-tree modules do not use %pK and just use %p, as it's the
> > > > common C paradigm for printing pointers. Because of this,
> > > > kptr_restrict has no affect on the output and thus, no way to contain
> > > > the kernel address leak.
> > > 
> > > So what?  We a) don't care about out of tree modules and b) you could just triviall
> > > fix them up if you care.
> > 
> > Out of tree modules still affect core kernel security. I would also bet money, that somewhere
> > In-tree someone has put a %p when they wanted a %pK. So this method is just quite error
> > prone. We currently have a blacklist approach versus whitelist.
> 
> grep says you have a point:
> 
> $ grep -IR 'seq_printf.*%p[^FfSsBRrhbMmIiEUVKNadCDgG].*&'
> drivers/dma/qcom/hidma_dbg.c:	seq_printf(s, "dev_trca=%p\n", &dmadev->dev_trca);
> drivers/dma/qcom/hidma_dbg.c:	seq_printf(s, "dev_evca=%p\n", &dmadev->dev_evca);
> 
> $ grep -IR 'pr_info.*%p[^FfSsBRrhbMmIiEUVKNadCDgG].*&'
> drivers/misc/lkdtm_heap.c:	pr_info("Allocated memory %p-%p\n", base, &base[offset * 2]);
> 
> $ grep -IR 'pr_err.*%p[^FfSsBRrhbMmIiEUVKNadCDgG].*&'
> drivers/net/ethernet/qlogic/qlge/qlge_dbg.c:	pr_err("rx_ring->cqicb = %p\n", &rx_ring->cqicb);
> 
> And these are just trivially greppable, low-hanging-fruit ones.
> With somewhat broader greps, there seem to be lots more, but they'd
> require manual review.

(Although, of course, most matches for seq_printf are in debugfs
files or stuff that's only enabled with some DEBUG config option
or so. But there are also e.g. pr_warn() users of %p that are not
in debug code.)

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-10-06 14:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 40+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-05 18:04 [PATCH] printk: introduce kptr_restrict level 3 william.c.roberts
2016-10-05 18:04 ` [kernel-hardening] " william.c.roberts
2016-10-05 19:34 ` Kees Cook
2016-10-05 19:34   ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2016-10-06 13:17   ` Roberts, William C
2016-10-06 13:17     ` [kernel-hardening] " Roberts, William C
2016-10-06 15:18   ` Roberts, William C
2016-10-06 21:04     ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2016-10-07 14:19       ` [kernel-hardening] " Roberts, William C
2016-10-07 14:29         ` Jann Horn
2016-10-07 15:05           ` Roberts, William C
2016-10-07 15:15             ` Jann Horn
2016-10-07 19:12           ` Kees Cook
2016-10-11 18:11             ` Roberts, William C
2016-10-05 20:52 ` Rasmus Villemoes
2016-10-05 20:52   ` [kernel-hardening] " Rasmus Villemoes
2016-10-06 13:23   ` Roberts, William C
2016-10-06 13:23     ` [kernel-hardening] " Roberts, William C
2016-10-06 13:31 ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-10-06 13:31   ` [kernel-hardening] " Christoph Hellwig
2016-10-06 13:47   ` Roberts, William C
2016-10-06 13:47     ` [kernel-hardening] " Roberts, William C
2016-10-06 13:56     ` Christoph Hellwig
2016-10-06 13:56       ` [kernel-hardening] " Christoph Hellwig
2016-10-06 14:59       ` Roberts, William C
2016-10-06 14:59         ` [kernel-hardening] " Roberts, William C
2016-10-06 21:00       ` Kees Cook
2016-10-06 21:00         ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2016-10-06 21:19         ` Joe Perches
2016-10-06 21:19           ` [kernel-hardening] " Joe Perches
2016-10-06 21:25           ` Kees Cook
2016-10-06 21:25             ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook
2016-10-07 14:21         ` Roberts, William C
2016-10-07 14:21           ` [kernel-hardening] " Roberts, William C
2016-10-06 14:05     ` Jann Horn
2016-10-06 14:05       ` Jann Horn
2016-10-06 14:46       ` Jann Horn [this message]
2016-10-06 14:46         ` Jann Horn
2016-10-07 11:52       ` Jann Horn
2016-10-07 11:52         ` Jann Horn

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