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From: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] chardev's and fd's in monitors
Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2016 13:43:27 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161018124326.GF2190@work-vm> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161018121355.GP4349@redhat.com>

* Daniel P. Berrange (berrange@redhat.com) wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 02:08:14PM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> > "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com> writes:
> > 
> > > On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 08:15:02PM +0100, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> > >> Hi,
> > >>   I had a look at a couple of readline like libraries;
> > >> editline and linenoise.  A difficulty with using them is that
> > >> they both want fd's or FILE*'s; editline takes either but
> > >> from a brief look I think it's expecting to extract the fd.
> > >> That makes them tricky to integrate into qemu, where
> > >> the chardev's hide a whole bunch of non-fd things; in particular
> > >> tls, mux, ringbuffers etc.
> > >> 
> > >> If we could get away with just a FILE* then we could use fopencookie,
> > >> but that's GNU only.
> > >> 
> > >> Is there any sane way of shepherding all chardev's into having an
> > >> fd?
> > >
> > > The entire chardev abstraction model exists precisely because we cannot
> > > make all chardevs look like a single fd. Even those which are fd based
> > > may have separate FDs for input and output.
> > >
> > > IMHO the only viable approach would be to enhance linenoise/editline to
> > > not assume use of fd* or FILE * abstractions.
> > 
> > The real thing (GNU readline) has hooks rl_getc_function,
> > rl_input_available_hook, rl_redisplay_function and so forth, which might
> > do the trick.  Unfortunately, we're stuck with cheap copies due to our
> > foolish acceptance of GPLv2-only contributions.
> 
> I'm wondering if improving read line facilities in HMP is really important
> enough for us to bother dealing with the problems, as opposed to just
> staying with our current impl ?

It's worth us understanding it, but not worth us putting infrastructure in for.
If we can find a way to do it sanely on top of what we've got I think it's worth
it.

Dave

> Regards,
> Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2016-10-18 12:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-12 19:15 [Qemu-devel] chardev's and fd's in monitors Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-12 20:02 ` Marc-André Lureau
2016-10-13 15:47   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-18 10:04 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-18 11:32   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-18 11:41     ` Marc-André Lureau
2016-10-18 11:44       ` Marc-André Lureau
2016-10-18 12:01     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-18 13:25       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-18 13:35         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-18 13:52           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-18 14:01             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-18 18:53               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-19  7:45                 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-19  8:00               ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-19  8:12                 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-19  8:42                   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-19  9:48                     ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-19 10:05                       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-19 10:16                         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-19 12:16                           ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-19 12:21                             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-19 18:06                               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-20  8:37                                 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-20  8:53                                   ` Marc-André Lureau
2016-10-20 10:45                                     ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-20 16:56                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-10-21  9:12                                     ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-21 21:06                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-10-24  7:07                                         ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-21  9:35                                     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-20 16:59                                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-20  8:55                                 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-20  9:03                                   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-20  9:58                                     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-20 10:42                                       ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-20 11:01                                         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-20 11:10                                           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-20 11:45                                             ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-20 11:08                                         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-20 11:57                                           ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-20 17:56                                             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-21  9:06                                               ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-21  9:37                                                 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-21 11:56                                                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-21  9:45                                                 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-19 12:26               ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-10-19 17:01                 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-19 20:51                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-10-20  8:34                     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-18 12:08   ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-18 12:13     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-18 12:43       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert [this message]
2016-10-18 10:06 ` Daniel P. Berrange

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