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From: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: "Dr. David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>
Cc: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] chardev's and fd's in monitors
Date: Thu, 20 Oct 2016 09:37:30 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161020083730.GC12145@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161019180616.GF2035@work-vm>

On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 07:06:16PM +0100, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> * Daniel P. Berrange (berrange@redhat.com) wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 02:16:05PM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> > > "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com> writes:
> > > 
> > > > On Wed, Oct 19, 2016 at 11:05:53AM +0100, Dr. David Alan Gilbert wrote:
> > > >> 
> > > >> We need a way to be able to report an error without plumbing error_setg
> > > >> up the stack; if you're saying error_report isn't suitable then we
> > > >> should just recommend we switch everything in migration back to
> > > >> fprintf(stderr,
> > > 
> > > In the cases where error_report() isn't suitable, fprintf() is just as
> > > unsuitable for the exact same reasons.
> > > 
> > > > Well both error_report() + fprintf  are broken from POV of anything
> > > > using QMP. error_report() is slightly less broken for HMP,
> > > 
> > > error_report() is not broken at all for HMP code.  The trouble is code
> > > that can't know whether it's running in a context where error_report()
> > > is suitable.
> > > 
> > > >                                                            but doesn't
> > > > help QMP.
> > > 
> > > Correct.
> > > 
> > > > In the short term we should just make error_report be  threadsafe in
> > > > its usage of the monitor.
> > > 
> > > Any problems left once cur_mon is thread-local (which it should be
> > > anyway)?
> > 
> > If we make cur_mon a thread-local, then error_report() is equivalent
> > to fprintf(stderr) for the migration code, since the migration
> > code runs in a different thread thread, and so would always see
> > cur_mon == NULL.
> 
> Yes, that would become safe; it does sound the best fix for the current
> worry.
> 
> If we had that, then why not wire up error_report to pass errors back to QMP
> as well?

You have a problem of context - if you have multiple monitors, how do
you know which to send the error back to if you're not in the event
loop thread, and thus cur_mon is NULL. With Marc-Andre's series which
allows proper async command processing it gets even harder, because
there's potentially many outstanding commands associated with a monitor
and you need to decide which the error should be given to.

Regards,
Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2016-10-20  8:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-12 19:15 [Qemu-devel] chardev's and fd's in monitors Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-12 20:02 ` Marc-André Lureau
2016-10-13 15:47   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-18 10:04 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-18 11:32   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-18 11:41     ` Marc-André Lureau
2016-10-18 11:44       ` Marc-André Lureau
2016-10-18 12:01     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-18 13:25       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-18 13:35         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-18 13:52           ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-18 14:01             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-18 18:53               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-19  7:45                 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-19  8:00               ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-19  8:12                 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-19  8:42                   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-19  9:48                     ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-19 10:05                       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-19 10:16                         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-19 12:16                           ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-19 12:21                             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-19 18:06                               ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-20  8:37                                 ` Daniel P. Berrange [this message]
2016-10-20  8:53                                   ` Marc-André Lureau
2016-10-20 10:45                                     ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-20 16:56                                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-10-21  9:12                                     ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-21 21:06                                       ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-10-24  7:07                                         ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-21  9:35                                     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-20 16:59                                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-20  8:55                                 ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-20  9:03                                   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-20  9:58                                     ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-20 10:42                                       ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-20 11:01                                         ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-20 11:10                                           ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-20 11:45                                             ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-20 11:08                                         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-20 11:57                                           ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-20 17:56                                             ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-21  9:06                                               ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-21  9:37                                                 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-21 11:56                                                   ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-21  9:45                                                 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-19 12:26               ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-10-19 17:01                 ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-19 20:51                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-10-20  8:34                     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-18 12:08   ` Markus Armbruster
2016-10-18 12:13     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-10-18 12:43       ` Dr. David Alan Gilbert
2016-10-18 10:06 ` Daniel P. Berrange

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