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From: Andrew Jones <drjones@redhat.com>
To: Dave Young <dyoung@redhat.com>
Cc: wency@cn.fujitsu.com, qiaonuohan@cn.fujitsu.com,
	anderson@redhat.com, lersek@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
	bhe@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] virsh dump (qemu guest memory dump?): KASLR enabled linux guest support
Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2016 11:40:59 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161109104059.bvw5h4k4v77pw2rl@kamzik.brq.redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20161109030146.GA3802@dhcp-128-65.nay.redhat.com>

On Wed, Nov 09, 2016 at 11:01:46AM +0800, Dave Young wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Latest linux kernel enabled kaslr to randomiz phys/virt memory
> addresses, we had some effort to support kexec/kdump so that crash
> utility can still works in case crashed kernel has kaslr enabled.
> 
> But according to Dave Anderson virsh dump does not work, quoted messages
> from Dave below:
> 
> """
> with virsh dump, there's no way of even knowing that KASLR
> has randomized the kernel __START_KERNEL_map region, because there is no
> virtual address information -- e.g., like "SYMBOL(_stext)" in the kdump
> vmcoreinfo data to compare against the vmlinux file symbol value.
> Unless virsh dump can export some basic virtual memory data, which
> they say it can't, I don't see how KASLR can ever be supported.
> """
> 
> I assume virsh dump is using qemu guest memory dump facility so it
> should be first addressed in qemu. Thus post this query to qemu devel
> list. If this is not correct please let me know.
> 
> Could you qemu dump people make it work? Or we can not support virt dump
> as long as KASLR being enabled. Latest Fedora kernel has enabled it in x86_64.
>

When the -kernel command line option is used, then it may be possible
to extract some information that could be used to supplement the memory
dump that dump-guest-memory provides. However, that would be a specific
use. In general, QEMU knows nothing about the guest kernel. It doesn't
know where it is in the disk image, and it doesn't even know if it's
Linux.

Is there anything a guest userspace application could probe from e.g.
/proc that would work? If so, then the guest agent could gain a new
feature providing that.

Thanks,
drew

  parent reply	other threads:[~2016-11-09 10:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-11-09  3:01 [Qemu-devel] virsh dump (qemu guest memory dump?): KASLR enabled linux guest support Dave Young
2016-11-09  3:17 ` Dave Young
2016-11-09  3:58   ` Wen Congyang
2016-11-09  5:02     ` Dave Young
2016-11-09  7:42       ` Wen Congyang
2016-11-09  8:25         ` Dave Young
2016-11-09 14:36       ` Dave Anderson
2016-11-09 14:42         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-11-09 10:40 ` Andrew Jones [this message]
2016-11-09 11:26   ` Laszlo Ersek
2016-11-09 11:37     ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-11-09 11:48       ` Andrew Jones
2016-11-09 11:58         ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-11-09 12:20           ` Andrew Jones
2016-11-09 14:47             ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-11-09 15:38               ` Laszlo Ersek
2016-11-09 16:01                 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-11-14 10:27                   ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-14  5:32                 ` Dave Young
2016-11-14  9:47                   ` Andrew Jones
2016-11-16  2:48                     ` Dave Young
2016-11-14 10:10                   ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-11-14 10:28                     ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-14 10:33                       ` Daniel P. Berrange
2016-11-14 11:08                         ` Laszlo Ersek
2016-11-14 11:55                         ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-09 15:28   ` Dave Anderson
2016-11-14 10:41     ` Paolo Bonzini
2016-11-15 14:41       ` Dave Anderson
2016-11-09 14:32 ` Dave Anderson

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