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From: Jeff King <peff@peff.net>
To: Stefan Beller <sbeller@google.com>
Cc: Michael J Gruber <git@drmicha.warpmail.net>,
	"git@vger.kernel.org" <git@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 0/5] Localise error headers
Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2017 06:37:25 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170111113725.avl3wetwrfezdni2@sigill.intra.peff.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGZ79kYVc0YQ4okrTHGiYQzPqfiVAm_f7orXdkhwgf5kMPXj-w@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 10:28:42AM -0800, Stefan Beller wrote:

> > And then presumably that mix would gradually move to 100% consistency as
> > more messages are translated. But the implicit question is: are there
> > die() messages that should never be translated? I'm not sure.
> 
> I would assume any plumbing command is not localizing?
> Because in plumbing land, (easily scriptable) you may find
> a grep on the output/stderr for a certain condition?

That's the assumption I'm challenging. Certainly the behavior and
certain aspects of the output of a plumbing command should remain the
same over time. But error messages to stderr?

It seems like they should be translated, because plumbing invoked on
behalf of porcelain scripts is going to send its stderr directly to the
user.

> To find a good example, "git grep die" giving me some food of though:
> 
> die_errno(..) should always take a string marked up for translation,
> because the errno string is translated?

Yes, I would think die_errno() is a no-brainer for translation, since
the strerror() will be translated.

>     apply.c:                die(_("internal error"));
> 
> That is funny, too. I think we should substitute that with
> 
>     die("BUG: untranslated, but what went wrong instead")

Yep. We did not consistently use "BUG:" in the early days. I would say
that "BUG" lines do not need to be translated. The point is that nobody
should ever see them, so it seems like there is little point in giving
extra work to translators.

-Peff

  reply	other threads:[~2017-01-11 11:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-01-02 11:14 [RFC PATCH 0/5] Localise error headers Michael J Gruber
2017-01-02 11:14 ` [RFC PATCH 1/5] error/warning framework: prepare for l10n Michael J Gruber
2017-01-02 11:14 ` [RFC PATCH 2/5] error/warn framework: provide localized variants Michael J Gruber
2017-01-02 11:14 ` [RFC PATCH 3/5] error/warning framework framework: coccinelli rules Michael J Gruber
2017-01-03 12:26 ` [RFC PATCH 0/5] Localise error headers Duy Nguyen
2017-01-03 19:45 ` Stefan Beller
2017-01-04 13:25   ` Duy Nguyen
2017-01-07  9:34     ` Duy Nguyen
2017-01-04  7:05 ` Jeff King
2017-01-09 12:43   ` Michael J Gruber
2017-01-10  9:04     ` Jeff King
2017-01-10 18:28       ` Stefan Beller
2017-01-11 11:37         ` Jeff King [this message]
2017-01-11 17:15           ` Stefan Beller
2017-01-21 14:24             ` Jeff King
2017-01-11 18:08           ` Junio C Hamano
2017-01-20 13:08             ` Duy Nguyen
2017-01-21 14:19               ` Jeff King
2017-01-21 14:20             ` Jeff King
2017-03-30 15:18               ` Michael J Gruber
2017-04-01  8:12                 ` Jeff King
2017-04-01 17:38                   ` Junio C Hamano
2017-01-20 13:23           ` Duy Nguyen
2017-01-20 13:31             ` Duy Nguyen

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