[rtc-linux] [PATCH] rtc: sun6i: Switch to the external oscillator

[rtc-linux] [PATCH] rtc: sun6i: Switch to the external oscillator

[Maxime Ripard]

The RTC is clocked from either an internal, imprecise, oscillator or an
external one, which is usually much more accurate.

The difference perceived between the time elapsed and the time reported by
the RTC is in a 10% scale, which prevents the RTC from being useful at all.

Fortunately, the external oscillator is reported to be mandatory in the
Allwinner datasheet, so we can just switch to it.

Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
Fixes: 9765d2d94309 ("rtc: sun6i: Add sun6i RTC driver")
Signed-off-by: Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com>
---
 drivers/rtc/rtc-sun6i.c | 6 ++++++
 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+)

diff --git a/drivers/rtc/rtc-sun6i.c b/drivers/rtc/rtc-sun6i.c
index c169a2cd4727..dee524cfa13b 100644
--- a/drivers/rtc/rtc-sun6i.c
+++ b/drivers/rtc/rtc-sun6i.c
@@ -37,9 +37,11 @@
 
 /* Control register */
 #define SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL				0x0000
+#define SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_KEY			(0x16aa << 16)
 #define SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_ALM_DHMS_ACC		BIT(9)
 #define SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_RTC_HMS_ACC		BIT(8)
 #define SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_RTC_YMD_ACC		BIT(7)
+#define SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_EXT_OSC			BIT(0)
 #define SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_ACC_MASK		GENMASK(9, 7)
 
 /* RTC */
@@ -404,6 +406,10 @@ static int sun6i_rtc_probe(struct platform_device *pdev)
 	/* disable alarm wakeup */
 	writel(0, chip->base + SUN6I_ALARM_CONFIG);
 
+	/* switch to the external, more precise, oscillator */
+	writel(SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_KEY | SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_EXT_OSC,
+	       chip->base + SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL);
+
 	chip->rtc = rtc_device_register("rtc-sun6i", &pdev->dev,
 					&sun6i_rtc_ops, THIS_MODULE);
 	if (IS_ERR(chip->rtc)) {
-- 
2.11.0

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[PATCH] rtc: sun6i: Switch to the external oscillator

[Maxime Ripard]

The RTC is clocked from either an internal, imprecise, oscillator or an
external one, which is usually much more accurate.

The difference perceived between the time elapsed and the time reported by
the RTC is in a 10% scale, which prevents the RTC from being useful at all.

Fortunately, the external oscillator is reported to be mandatory in the
Allwinner datasheet, so we can just switch to it.

Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
Fixes: 9765d2d94309 ("rtc: sun6i: Add sun6i RTC driver")
Signed-off-by: Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com>
---
 drivers/rtc/rtc-sun6i.c | 6 ++++++
 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+)

diff --git a/drivers/rtc/rtc-sun6i.c b/drivers/rtc/rtc-sun6i.c
index c169a2cd4727..dee524cfa13b 100644
--- a/drivers/rtc/rtc-sun6i.c
+++ b/drivers/rtc/rtc-sun6i.c
@@ -37,9 +37,11 @@
 
 /* Control register */
 #define SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL				0x0000
+#define SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_KEY			(0x16aa << 16)
 #define SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_ALM_DHMS_ACC		BIT(9)
 #define SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_RTC_HMS_ACC		BIT(8)
 #define SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_RTC_YMD_ACC		BIT(7)
+#define SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_EXT_OSC			BIT(0)
 #define SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_ACC_MASK		GENMASK(9, 7)
 
 /* RTC */
@@ -404,6 +406,10 @@ static int sun6i_rtc_probe(struct platform_device *pdev)
 	/* disable alarm wakeup */
 	writel(0, chip->base + SUN6I_ALARM_CONFIG);
 
+	/* switch to the external, more precise, oscillator */
+	writel(SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_KEY | SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_EXT_OSC,
+	       chip->base + SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL);
+
 	chip->rtc = rtc_device_register("rtc-sun6i", &pdev->dev,
 					&sun6i_rtc_ops, THIS_MODULE);
 	if (IS_ERR(chip->rtc)) {
-- 
2.11.0

[PATCH] rtc: sun6i: Switch to the external oscillator

[Maxime Ripard]

The RTC is clocked from either an internal, imprecise, oscillator or an
external one, which is usually much more accurate.

The difference perceived between the time elapsed and the time reported by
the RTC is in a 10% scale, which prevents the RTC from being useful at all.

Fortunately, the external oscillator is reported to be mandatory in the
Allwinner datasheet, so we can just switch to it.

Cc: stable at vger.kernel.org
Fixes: 9765d2d94309 ("rtc: sun6i: Add sun6i RTC driver")
Signed-off-by: Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com>
---
 drivers/rtc/rtc-sun6i.c | 6 ++++++
 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+)

diff --git a/drivers/rtc/rtc-sun6i.c b/drivers/rtc/rtc-sun6i.c
index c169a2cd4727..dee524cfa13b 100644
--- a/drivers/rtc/rtc-sun6i.c
+++ b/drivers/rtc/rtc-sun6i.c
@@ -37,9 +37,11 @@
 
 /* Control register */
 #define SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL				0x0000
+#define SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_KEY			(0x16aa << 16)
 #define SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_ALM_DHMS_ACC		BIT(9)
 #define SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_RTC_HMS_ACC		BIT(8)
 #define SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_RTC_YMD_ACC		BIT(7)
+#define SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_EXT_OSC			BIT(0)
 #define SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_ACC_MASK		GENMASK(9, 7)
 
 /* RTC */
@@ -404,6 +406,10 @@ static int sun6i_rtc_probe(struct platform_device *pdev)
 	/* disable alarm wakeup */
 	writel(0, chip->base + SUN6I_ALARM_CONFIG);
 
+	/* switch to the external, more precise, oscillator */
+	writel(SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_KEY | SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_EXT_OSC,
+	       chip->base + SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL);
+
 	chip->rtc = rtc_device_register("rtc-sun6i", &pdev->dev,
 					&sun6i_rtc_ops, THIS_MODULE);
 	if (IS_ERR(chip->rtc)) {
-- 
2.11.0

[rtc-linux] Re: [PATCH] rtc: sun6i: Switch to the external oscillator

[Alexandre Belloni]

On 16/01/2017 at 16:21:48 +0100, Maxime Ripard wrote :
> The RTC is clocked from either an internal, imprecise, oscillator or an
> external one, which is usually much more accurate.
> 
> The difference perceived between the time elapsed and the time reported by
> the RTC is in a 10% scale, which prevents the RTC from being useful at all.
> 
> Fortunately, the external oscillator is reported to be mandatory in the
> Allwinner datasheet, so we can just switch to it.
> 

Still, I'm wondering whether the external clock should be taken.

We've had issues with at91 and tegra where this external clock was
suddenly able to be stopped, breaking the RTC because the CCF was not
aware the RTC was using it.

See:
http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/502459/
http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/714517/

Your reply can be that you don't care now and this has a low probability
and you'll handle the case when it happens and that will be fine.

> Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
> Fixes: 9765d2d94309 ("rtc: sun6i: Add sun6i RTC driver")
> Signed-off-by: Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com>
> ---
>  drivers/rtc/rtc-sun6i.c | 6 ++++++
>  1 file changed, 6 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/rtc/rtc-sun6i.c b/drivers/rtc/rtc-sun6i.c
> index c169a2cd4727..dee524cfa13b 100644
> --- a/drivers/rtc/rtc-sun6i.c
> +++ b/drivers/rtc/rtc-sun6i.c
> @@ -37,9 +37,11 @@
>  
>  /* Control register */
>  #define SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL				0x0000
> +#define SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_KEY			(0x16aa << 16)
>  #define SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_ALM_DHMS_ACC		BIT(9)
>  #define SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_RTC_HMS_ACC		BIT(8)
>  #define SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_RTC_YMD_ACC		BIT(7)
> +#define SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_EXT_OSC			BIT(0)
>  #define SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_ACC_MASK		GENMASK(9, 7)
>  
>  /* RTC */
> @@ -404,6 +406,10 @@ static int sun6i_rtc_probe(struct platform_device *pdev)
>  	/* disable alarm wakeup */
>  	writel(0, chip->base + SUN6I_ALARM_CONFIG);
>  
> +	/* switch to the external, more precise, oscillator */
> +	writel(SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_KEY | SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_EXT_OSC,
> +	       chip->base + SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL);
> +
>  	chip->rtc = rtc_device_register("rtc-sun6i", &pdev->dev,
>  					&sun6i_rtc_ops, THIS_MODULE);
>  	if (IS_ERR(chip->rtc)) {
> -- 
> 2.11.0
> 

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Re: [PATCH] rtc: sun6i: Switch to the external oscillator

[Alexandre Belloni]

On 16/01/2017 at 16:21:48 +0100, Maxime Ripard wrote :
> The RTC is clocked from either an internal, imprecise, oscillator or an
> external one, which is usually much more accurate.
> 
> The difference perceived between the time elapsed and the time reported by
> the RTC is in a 10% scale, which prevents the RTC from being useful at all.
> 
> Fortunately, the external oscillator is reported to be mandatory in the
> Allwinner datasheet, so we can just switch to it.
> 

Still, I'm wondering whether the external clock should be taken.

We've had issues with at91 and tegra where this external clock was
suddenly able to be stopped, breaking the RTC because the CCF was not
aware the RTC was using it.

See:
http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/502459/
http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/714517/

Your reply can be that you don't care now and this has a low probability
and you'll handle the case when it happens and that will be fine.

> Cc: stable@vger.kernel.org
> Fixes: 9765d2d94309 ("rtc: sun6i: Add sun6i RTC driver")
> Signed-off-by: Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com>
> ---
>  drivers/rtc/rtc-sun6i.c | 6 ++++++
>  1 file changed, 6 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/rtc/rtc-sun6i.c b/drivers/rtc/rtc-sun6i.c
> index c169a2cd4727..dee524cfa13b 100644
> --- a/drivers/rtc/rtc-sun6i.c
> +++ b/drivers/rtc/rtc-sun6i.c
> @@ -37,9 +37,11 @@
>  
>  /* Control register */
>  #define SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL				0x0000
> +#define SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_KEY			(0x16aa << 16)
>  #define SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_ALM_DHMS_ACC		BIT(9)
>  #define SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_RTC_HMS_ACC		BIT(8)
>  #define SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_RTC_YMD_ACC		BIT(7)
> +#define SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_EXT_OSC			BIT(0)
>  #define SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_ACC_MASK		GENMASK(9, 7)
>  
>  /* RTC */
> @@ -404,6 +406,10 @@ static int sun6i_rtc_probe(struct platform_device *pdev)
>  	/* disable alarm wakeup */
>  	writel(0, chip->base + SUN6I_ALARM_CONFIG);
>  
> +	/* switch to the external, more precise, oscillator */
> +	writel(SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_KEY | SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_EXT_OSC,
> +	       chip->base + SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL);
> +
>  	chip->rtc = rtc_device_register("rtc-sun6i", &pdev->dev,
>  					&sun6i_rtc_ops, THIS_MODULE);
>  	if (IS_ERR(chip->rtc)) {
> -- 
> 2.11.0
> 

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Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
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[PATCH] rtc: sun6i: Switch to the external oscillator

[Alexandre Belloni]

On 16/01/2017 at 16:21:48 +0100, Maxime Ripard wrote :
> The RTC is clocked from either an internal, imprecise, oscillator or an
> external one, which is usually much more accurate.
> 
> The difference perceived between the time elapsed and the time reported by
> the RTC is in a 10% scale, which prevents the RTC from being useful at all.
> 
> Fortunately, the external oscillator is reported to be mandatory in the
> Allwinner datasheet, so we can just switch to it.
> 

Still, I'm wondering whether the external clock should be taken.

We've had issues with at91 and tegra where this external clock was
suddenly able to be stopped, breaking the RTC because the CCF was not
aware the RTC was using it.

See:
http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/502459/
http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/714517/

Your reply can be that you don't care now and this has a low probability
and you'll handle the case when it happens and that will be fine.

> Cc: stable at vger.kernel.org
> Fixes: 9765d2d94309 ("rtc: sun6i: Add sun6i RTC driver")
> Signed-off-by: Maxime Ripard <maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com>
> ---
>  drivers/rtc/rtc-sun6i.c | 6 ++++++
>  1 file changed, 6 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/rtc/rtc-sun6i.c b/drivers/rtc/rtc-sun6i.c
> index c169a2cd4727..dee524cfa13b 100644
> --- a/drivers/rtc/rtc-sun6i.c
> +++ b/drivers/rtc/rtc-sun6i.c
> @@ -37,9 +37,11 @@
>  
>  /* Control register */
>  #define SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL				0x0000
> +#define SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_KEY			(0x16aa << 16)
>  #define SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_ALM_DHMS_ACC		BIT(9)
>  #define SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_RTC_HMS_ACC		BIT(8)
>  #define SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_RTC_YMD_ACC		BIT(7)
> +#define SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_EXT_OSC			BIT(0)
>  #define SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_ACC_MASK		GENMASK(9, 7)
>  
>  /* RTC */
> @@ -404,6 +406,10 @@ static int sun6i_rtc_probe(struct platform_device *pdev)
>  	/* disable alarm wakeup */
>  	writel(0, chip->base + SUN6I_ALARM_CONFIG);
>  
> +	/* switch to the external, more precise, oscillator */
> +	writel(SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_KEY | SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL_EXT_OSC,
> +	       chip->base + SUN6I_LOSC_CTRL);
> +
>  	chip->rtc = rtc_device_register("rtc-sun6i", &pdev->dev,
>  					&sun6i_rtc_ops, THIS_MODULE);
>  	if (IS_ERR(chip->rtc)) {
> -- 
> 2.11.0
> 

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[rtc-linux] Re: [PATCH] rtc: sun6i: Switch to the external oscillator

[Maxime Ripard]

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Hi,

On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 04:39:59PM +0100, Alexandre Belloni wrote:
> On 16/01/2017 at 16:21:48 +0100, Maxime Ripard wrote :
> > The RTC is clocked from either an internal, imprecise, oscillator or an
> > external one, which is usually much more accurate.
> > 
> > The difference perceived between the time elapsed and the time reported by
> > the RTC is in a 10% scale, which prevents the RTC from being useful at all.
> > 
> > Fortunately, the external oscillator is reported to be mandatory in the
> > Allwinner datasheet, so we can just switch to it.
> > 
> 
> Still, I'm wondering whether the external clock should be taken.
> 
> We've had issues with at91 and tegra where this external clock was
> suddenly able to be stopped, breaking the RTC because the CCF was not
> aware the RTC was using it.

That's a very good point...

> See:
> http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/502459/
> http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/714517/
> 
> Your reply can be that you don't care now and this has a low probability
> and you'll handle the case when it happens and that will be fine.

This is a bit more complicated for us.

The internal oscillator is running at 667kHz, with a 30% accuracy. The
external oscillator is supposed to run at 32768Hz, with a maximum
tolerance of 50ppm.

The RTC has an internal mux, between the internal and external
oscillators. If the internal is picked, a (variable) divider of 20 is
applied by default.

The output of that mux is also one of the parent of many of our clocks
in our main clock unit (for example the CPU one), so we need to have
that parenthood relationship expressed. I guess we could rework the
driver to first register the clock through the early clock probing
stuff, and then have the rest of the RTC to probe.

However, we also need to do so while remaining backward compatible
from a DT point of view.

I guess we could:
  - Add the two oscillators to the DTSI, with their proper accuracy
  - Put them both as parent clocks of the RTC node
  - Split the clock part and the RTC part in the driver, and have the
    clock part, if there is a clocks property in the node (which
    covers the backward case), register the mux, and pick the clock
    with the best accuracy. We don't change anything at the RTC level.
  - Change the parent clock of the CCU for the RTC.

That would work for you?
Maxime

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Re: [PATCH] rtc: sun6i: Switch to the external oscillator

[Maxime Ripard]

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Hi,

On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 04:39:59PM +0100, Alexandre Belloni wrote:
> On 16/01/2017 at 16:21:48 +0100, Maxime Ripard wrote :
> > The RTC is clocked from either an internal, imprecise, oscillator or an
> > external one, which is usually much more accurate.
> > 
> > The difference perceived between the time elapsed and the time reported by
> > the RTC is in a 10% scale, which prevents the RTC from being useful at all.
> > 
> > Fortunately, the external oscillator is reported to be mandatory in the
> > Allwinner datasheet, so we can just switch to it.
> > 
> 
> Still, I'm wondering whether the external clock should be taken.
> 
> We've had issues with at91 and tegra where this external clock was
> suddenly able to be stopped, breaking the RTC because the CCF was not
> aware the RTC was using it.

That's a very good point...

> See:
> http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/502459/
> http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/714517/
> 
> Your reply can be that you don't care now and this has a low probability
> and you'll handle the case when it happens and that will be fine.

This is a bit more complicated for us.

The internal oscillator is running at 667kHz, with a 30% accuracy. The
external oscillator is supposed to run at 32768Hz, with a maximum
tolerance of 50ppm.

The RTC has an internal mux, between the internal and external
oscillators. If the internal is picked, a (variable) divider of 20 is
applied by default.

The output of that mux is also one of the parent of many of our clocks
in our main clock unit (for example the CPU one), so we need to have
that parenthood relationship expressed. I guess we could rework the
driver to first register the clock through the early clock probing
stuff, and then have the rest of the RTC to probe.

However, we also need to do so while remaining backward compatible
from a DT point of view.

I guess we could:
  - Add the two oscillators to the DTSI, with their proper accuracy
  - Put them both as parent clocks of the RTC node
  - Split the clock part and the RTC part in the driver, and have the
    clock part, if there is a clocks property in the node (which
    covers the backward case), register the mux, and pick the clock
    with the best accuracy. We don't change anything at the RTC level.
  - Change the parent clock of the CCU for the RTC.

That would work for you?
Maxime

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[PATCH] rtc: sun6i: Switch to the external oscillator

[Maxime Ripard]

Hi,

On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 04:39:59PM +0100, Alexandre Belloni wrote:
> On 16/01/2017 at 16:21:48 +0100, Maxime Ripard wrote :
> > The RTC is clocked from either an internal, imprecise, oscillator or an
> > external one, which is usually much more accurate.
> > 
> > The difference perceived between the time elapsed and the time reported by
> > the RTC is in a 10% scale, which prevents the RTC from being useful at all.
> > 
> > Fortunately, the external oscillator is reported to be mandatory in the
> > Allwinner datasheet, so we can just switch to it.
> > 
> 
> Still, I'm wondering whether the external clock should be taken.
> 
> We've had issues with at91 and tegra where this external clock was
> suddenly able to be stopped, breaking the RTC because the CCF was not
> aware the RTC was using it.

That's a very good point...

> See:
> http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/502459/
> http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/714517/
> 
> Your reply can be that you don't care now and this has a low probability
> and you'll handle the case when it happens and that will be fine.

This is a bit more complicated for us.

The internal oscillator is running at 667kHz, with a 30% accuracy. The
external oscillator is supposed to run at 32768Hz, with a maximum
tolerance of 50ppm.

The RTC has an internal mux, between the internal and external
oscillators. If the internal is picked, a (variable) divider of 20 is
applied by default.

The output of that mux is also one of the parent of many of our clocks
in our main clock unit (for example the CPU one), so we need to have
that parenthood relationship expressed. I guess we could rework the
driver to first register the clock through the early clock probing
stuff, and then have the rest of the RTC to probe.

However, we also need to do so while remaining backward compatible
from a DT point of view.

I guess we could:
  - Add the two oscillators to the DTSI, with their proper accuracy
  - Put them both as parent clocks of the RTC node
  - Split the clock part and the RTC part in the driver, and have the
    clock part, if there is a clocks property in the node (which
    covers the backward case), register the mux, and pick the clock
    with the best accuracy. We don't change anything at the RTC level.
  - Change the parent clock of the CCU for the RTC.

That would work for you?
Maxime

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[rtc-linux] Re: [PATCH] rtc: sun6i: Switch to the external oscillator

[Alexandre Belloni]

On 16/01/2017 at 17:13:49 +0100, Maxime Ripard wrote :
> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 04:39:59PM +0100, Alexandre Belloni wrote:
> > On 16/01/2017 at 16:21:48 +0100, Maxime Ripard wrote :
> > > The RTC is clocked from either an internal, imprecise, oscillator or an
> > > external one, which is usually much more accurate.
> > > 
> > > The difference perceived between the time elapsed and the time reported by
> > > the RTC is in a 10% scale, which prevents the RTC from being useful at all.
> > > 
> > > Fortunately, the external oscillator is reported to be mandatory in the
> > > Allwinner datasheet, so we can just switch to it.
> > > 
> > 
> > Still, I'm wondering whether the external clock should be taken.
> > 
> > We've had issues with at91 and tegra where this external clock was
> > suddenly able to be stopped, breaking the RTC because the CCF was not
> > aware the RTC was using it.
> 
> That's a very good point...
> 
> > See:
> > http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/502459/
> > http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/714517/
> > 
> > Your reply can be that you don't care now and this has a low probability
> > and you'll handle the case when it happens and that will be fine.
> 
> This is a bit more complicated for us.
> 
> The internal oscillator is running at 667kHz, with a 30% accuracy. The
> external oscillator is supposed to run at 32768Hz, with a maximum
> tolerance of 50ppm.
> 
> The RTC has an internal mux, between the internal and external
> oscillators. If the internal is picked, a (variable) divider of 20 is
> applied by default.
> 
> The output of that mux is also one of the parent of many of our clocks
> in our main clock unit (for example the CPU one), so we need to have
> that parenthood relationship expressed. I guess we could rework the
> driver to first register the clock through the early clock probing
> stuff, and then have the rest of the RTC to probe.
> 
> However, we also need to do so while remaining backward compatible
> from a DT point of view.
> 
> I guess we could:
>   - Add the two oscillators to the DTSI, with their proper accuracy
>   - Put them both as parent clocks of the RTC node
>   - Split the clock part and the RTC part in the driver, and have the
>     clock part, if there is a clocks property in the node (which
>     covers the backward case), register the mux, and pick the clock
>     with the best accuracy. We don't change anything at the RTC level.
>   - Change the parent clock of the CCU for the RTC.
> 
> That would work for you?

That would definitively be better. If the 667kHz oscillator is not an
input to any other IP, you may as well register it directly from the
driver instead of representing it as a node.

-- 
Alexandre Belloni, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
http://free-electrons.com

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Re: [PATCH] rtc: sun6i: Switch to the external oscillator

[Alexandre Belloni]

On 16/01/2017 at 17:13:49 +0100, Maxime Ripard wrote :
> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 04:39:59PM +0100, Alexandre Belloni wrote:
> > On 16/01/2017 at 16:21:48 +0100, Maxime Ripard wrote :
> > > The RTC is clocked from either an internal, imprecise, oscillator or an
> > > external one, which is usually much more accurate.
> > > 
> > > The difference perceived between the time elapsed and the time reported by
> > > the RTC is in a 10% scale, which prevents the RTC from being useful at all.
> > > 
> > > Fortunately, the external oscillator is reported to be mandatory in the
> > > Allwinner datasheet, so we can just switch to it.
> > > 
> > 
> > Still, I'm wondering whether the external clock should be taken.
> > 
> > We've had issues with at91 and tegra where this external clock was
> > suddenly able to be stopped, breaking the RTC because the CCF was not
> > aware the RTC was using it.
> 
> That's a very good point...
> 
> > See:
> > http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/502459/
> > http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/714517/
> > 
> > Your reply can be that you don't care now and this has a low probability
> > and you'll handle the case when it happens and that will be fine.
> 
> This is a bit more complicated for us.
> 
> The internal oscillator is running at 667kHz, with a 30% accuracy. The
> external oscillator is supposed to run at 32768Hz, with a maximum
> tolerance of 50ppm.
> 
> The RTC has an internal mux, between the internal and external
> oscillators. If the internal is picked, a (variable) divider of 20 is
> applied by default.
> 
> The output of that mux is also one of the parent of many of our clocks
> in our main clock unit (for example the CPU one), so we need to have
> that parenthood relationship expressed. I guess we could rework the
> driver to first register the clock through the early clock probing
> stuff, and then have the rest of the RTC to probe.
> 
> However, we also need to do so while remaining backward compatible
> from a DT point of view.
> 
> I guess we could:
>   - Add the two oscillators to the DTSI, with their proper accuracy
>   - Put them both as parent clocks of the RTC node
>   - Split the clock part and the RTC part in the driver, and have the
>     clock part, if there is a clocks property in the node (which
>     covers the backward case), register the mux, and pick the clock
>     with the best accuracy. We don't change anything at the RTC level.
>   - Change the parent clock of the CCU for the RTC.
> 
> That would work for you?

That would definitively be better. If the 667kHz oscillator is not an
input to any other IP, you may as well register it directly from the
driver instead of representing it as a node.

-- 
Alexandre Belloni, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
http://free-electrons.com

[PATCH] rtc: sun6i: Switch to the external oscillator

[Alexandre Belloni]

On 16/01/2017 at 17:13:49 +0100, Maxime Ripard wrote :
> On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 04:39:59PM +0100, Alexandre Belloni wrote:
> > On 16/01/2017 at 16:21:48 +0100, Maxime Ripard wrote :
> > > The RTC is clocked from either an internal, imprecise, oscillator or an
> > > external one, which is usually much more accurate.
> > > 
> > > The difference perceived between the time elapsed and the time reported by
> > > the RTC is in a 10% scale, which prevents the RTC from being useful at all.
> > > 
> > > Fortunately, the external oscillator is reported to be mandatory in the
> > > Allwinner datasheet, so we can just switch to it.
> > > 
> > 
> > Still, I'm wondering whether the external clock should be taken.
> > 
> > We've had issues with at91 and tegra where this external clock was
> > suddenly able to be stopped, breaking the RTC because the CCF was not
> > aware the RTC was using it.
> 
> That's a very good point...
> 
> > See:
> > http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/502459/
> > http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/714517/
> > 
> > Your reply can be that you don't care now and this has a low probability
> > and you'll handle the case when it happens and that will be fine.
> 
> This is a bit more complicated for us.
> 
> The internal oscillator is running at 667kHz, with a 30% accuracy. The
> external oscillator is supposed to run at 32768Hz, with a maximum
> tolerance of 50ppm.
> 
> The RTC has an internal mux, between the internal and external
> oscillators. If the internal is picked, a (variable) divider of 20 is
> applied by default.
> 
> The output of that mux is also one of the parent of many of our clocks
> in our main clock unit (for example the CPU one), so we need to have
> that parenthood relationship expressed. I guess we could rework the
> driver to first register the clock through the early clock probing
> stuff, and then have the rest of the RTC to probe.
> 
> However, we also need to do so while remaining backward compatible
> from a DT point of view.
> 
> I guess we could:
>   - Add the two oscillators to the DTSI, with their proper accuracy
>   - Put them both as parent clocks of the RTC node
>   - Split the clock part and the RTC part in the driver, and have the
>     clock part, if there is a clocks property in the node (which
>     covers the backward case), register the mux, and pick the clock
>     with the best accuracy. We don't change anything at the RTC level.
>   - Change the parent clock of the CCU for the RTC.
> 
> That would work for you?

That would definitively be better. If the 667kHz oscillator is not an
input to any other IP, you may as well register it directly from the
driver instead of representing it as a node.

-- 
Alexandre Belloni, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
http://free-electrons.com