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* [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4] backup: allow target without .bdrv_get_info
@ 2017-02-28 19:33 Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
  2017-03-01 23:14 ` Eric Blake
                   ` (2 more replies)
  0 siblings, 3 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy @ 2017-02-28 19:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: qemu-block, qemu-devel
  Cc: mreitz, kwolf, jcody, jsnow, famz, den, vsementsov, stefanha

Currently backup to nbd target is broken, as nbd doesn't have
.bdrv_get_info realization.

Signed-off-by: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>
---

v4: use error_report()
    add article

v3: fix compilation (I feel like an idiot)
    adjust wording (Fam)
    
v2: add WARNING

===

Since commit

commit 4c9bca7e39a6e07ad02c1dcde3478363344ec60b
Author: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
Date:   Thu Feb 25 15:58:30 2016 -0500

    block/backup: avoid copying less than full target clusters

backup to nbd target is broken, we have "Couldn't determine the cluster size of
the target image".

Proposed NBD protocol extension - NBD_OPT_INFO should finally solve this problem.
But until it is not realized, we need allow backup to nbd target due to backward
compatibility.

Furthermore, is it entirely ok to disallow backup if bds lacks .bdrv_get_info?
Which behavior should be default: to fail backup or to use default cluster size?

 block/backup.c | 12 +++++++++++-
 1 file changed, 11 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/block/backup.c b/block/backup.c
index ea38733849..ea160e9e82 100644
--- a/block/backup.c
+++ b/block/backup.c
@@ -24,6 +24,7 @@
 #include "qemu/cutils.h"
 #include "sysemu/block-backend.h"
 #include "qemu/bitmap.h"
+#include "qemu/error-report.h"
 
 #define BACKUP_CLUSTER_SIZE_DEFAULT (1 << 16)
 #define SLICE_TIME 100000000ULL /* ns */
@@ -638,7 +639,16 @@ BlockJob *backup_job_create(const char *job_id, BlockDriverState *bs,
      * backup cluster size is smaller than the target cluster size. Even for
      * targets with a backing file, try to avoid COW if possible. */
     ret = bdrv_get_info(target, &bdi);
-    if (ret < 0 && !target->backing) {
+    if (ret == -ENOTSUP) {
+        /* Cluster size is not defined */
+        error_report("WARNING: The target block device doesn't provide "
+                     "information about the block size and it doesn't have a "
+                     "backing file. The default block size of %u bytes is "
+                     "used. If the actual block size of the target exceeds "
+                     "this default, the backup may be unusable",
+                     BACKUP_CLUSTER_SIZE_DEFAULT);
+        job->cluster_size = BACKUP_CLUSTER_SIZE_DEFAULT;
+    } else if (ret < 0 && !target->backing) {
         error_setg_errno(errp, -ret,
             "Couldn't determine the cluster size of the target image, "
             "which has no backing file");
-- 
2.11.1

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* Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4] backup: allow target without .bdrv_get_info
  2017-02-28 19:33 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4] backup: allow target without .bdrv_get_info Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
@ 2017-03-01 23:14 ` Eric Blake
  2017-03-07 13:47 ` Kevin Wolf
  2017-03-08  9:15 ` Kevin Wolf
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Eric Blake @ 2017-03-01 23:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy, qemu-block, qemu-devel
  Cc: kwolf, famz, jcody, mreitz, stefanha, den, jsnow, Paolo Bonzini

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On 02/28/2017 01:33 PM, Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy wrote:
> Currently backup to nbd target is broken, as nbd doesn't have
> .bdrv_get_info realization.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>
> ---
> 
> v4: use error_report()
>     add article
> 
> v3: fix compilation (I feel like an idiot)
>     adjust wording (Fam)
>     
> v2: add WARNING
> 
> ===
> 
> Since commit
> 
> commit 4c9bca7e39a6e07ad02c1dcde3478363344ec60b
> Author: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
> Date:   Thu Feb 25 15:58:30 2016 -0500
> 
>     block/backup: avoid copying less than full target clusters
> 
> backup to nbd target is broken, we have "Couldn't determine the cluster size of
> the target image".
> 
> Proposed NBD protocol extension - NBD_OPT_INFO should finally solve this problem.
> But until it is not realized, we need allow backup to nbd target due to backward
> compatibility.

Looks like my patches for NBD_OPT_INFO did not get included in a pull
request for 2.9, and therefore missed soft freeze.
https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/qemu-devel/2017-02/msg04528.html

In particular, there was confusion on whether the NBD protocol should be
advertising the preferred block size for I/O (as in struct
stat.st_blksize) vs. the optimum size (SCSI documents this as an
optional parameter, but if set, then transactions larger than the
optimal may take longer than ordinary). I'm also not sure where qcow2's
cluster size should fit into this (it behaves more like a block size, in
that anything smaller requires a read-modify-write, and therefore feels
more like what NBD has currently documented as the preferred size).
qemu's BlockLimits structure may need to track both numbers separately
(right now, it appears to only be tracking the SCSI sense, although that
is not documented well), and the NBD protocol extension proposal may
need a tweak to expose more than just min/preferred/max values.

Even though my NBD patches will miss 2.9, I think yours qualifies as a
bug fix and can therefore be included under the soft freeze rules.

> 
> Furthermore, is it entirely ok to disallow backup if bds lacks .bdrv_get_info?
> Which behavior should be default: to fail backup or to use default cluster size?

Avoiding the risk of corrupted data is important.

Reviewed-by: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>

> 
>  block/backup.c | 12 +++++++++++-
>  1 file changed, 11 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> diff --git a/block/backup.c b/block/backup.c
> index ea38733849..ea160e9e82 100644
> --- a/block/backup.c
> +++ b/block/backup.c
> @@ -24,6 +24,7 @@
>  #include "qemu/cutils.h"
>  #include "sysemu/block-backend.h"
>  #include "qemu/bitmap.h"
> +#include "qemu/error-report.h"
>  
>  #define BACKUP_CLUSTER_SIZE_DEFAULT (1 << 16)
>  #define SLICE_TIME 100000000ULL /* ns */
> @@ -638,7 +639,16 @@ BlockJob *backup_job_create(const char *job_id, BlockDriverState *bs,
>       * backup cluster size is smaller than the target cluster size. Even for
>       * targets with a backing file, try to avoid COW if possible. */
>      ret = bdrv_get_info(target, &bdi);
> -    if (ret < 0 && !target->backing) {
> +    if (ret == -ENOTSUP) {
> +        /* Cluster size is not defined */
> +        error_report("WARNING: The target block device doesn't provide "
> +                     "information about the block size and it doesn't have a "
> +                     "backing file. The default block size of %u bytes is "
> +                     "used. If the actual block size of the target exceeds "
> +                     "this default, the backup may be unusable",
> +                     BACKUP_CLUSTER_SIZE_DEFAULT);
> +        job->cluster_size = BACKUP_CLUSTER_SIZE_DEFAULT;
> +    } else if (ret < 0 && !target->backing) {
>          error_setg_errno(errp, -ret,
>              "Couldn't determine the cluster size of the target image, "
>              "which has no backing file");
> 

-- 
Eric Blake   eblake redhat com    +1-919-301-3266
Libvirt virtualization library http://libvirt.org


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* Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4] backup: allow target without .bdrv_get_info
  2017-02-28 19:33 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4] backup: allow target without .bdrv_get_info Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
  2017-03-01 23:14 ` Eric Blake
@ 2017-03-07 13:47 ` Kevin Wolf
  2017-03-07 16:39   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
  2017-03-08  9:15 ` Kevin Wolf
  2 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Kevin Wolf @ 2017-03-07 13:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
  Cc: qemu-block, qemu-devel, mreitz, jcody, jsnow, famz, den, stefanha

Am 28.02.2017 um 20:33 hat Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy geschrieben:
> Currently backup to nbd target is broken, as nbd doesn't have
> .bdrv_get_info realization.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>
> ---
> 
> v4: use error_report()
>     add article
> 
> v3: fix compilation (I feel like an idiot)
>     adjust wording (Fam)
>     
> v2: add WARNING
> 
> ===
> 
> Since commit
> 
> commit 4c9bca7e39a6e07ad02c1dcde3478363344ec60b
> Author: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
> Date:   Thu Feb 25 15:58:30 2016 -0500
> 
>     block/backup: avoid copying less than full target clusters
> 
> backup to nbd target is broken, we have "Couldn't determine the cluster size of
> the target image".
> 
> Proposed NBD protocol extension - NBD_OPT_INFO should finally solve this problem.
> But until it is not realized, we need allow backup to nbd target due to backward
> compatibility.
> 
> Furthermore, is it entirely ok to disallow backup if bds lacks .bdrv_get_info?
> Which behavior should be default: to fail backup or to use default cluster size?
> 
>  block/backup.c | 12 +++++++++++-
>  1 file changed, 11 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> diff --git a/block/backup.c b/block/backup.c
> index ea38733849..ea160e9e82 100644
> --- a/block/backup.c
> +++ b/block/backup.c
> @@ -24,6 +24,7 @@
>  #include "qemu/cutils.h"
>  #include "sysemu/block-backend.h"
>  #include "qemu/bitmap.h"
> +#include "qemu/error-report.h"
>  
>  #define BACKUP_CLUSTER_SIZE_DEFAULT (1 << 16)
>  #define SLICE_TIME 100000000ULL /* ns */
> @@ -638,7 +639,16 @@ BlockJob *backup_job_create(const char *job_id, BlockDriverState *bs,
>       * backup cluster size is smaller than the target cluster size. Even for
>       * targets with a backing file, try to avoid COW if possible. */
>      ret = bdrv_get_info(target, &bdi);
> -    if (ret < 0 && !target->backing) {
> +    if (ret == -ENOTSUP) {

I think this should be if (ret == -ENOTSUP && !target->backing) because
the warning explicitly says "doesn't have a backing file", and the case
with a backing file is already handled below (without a warning).

I can fix this while applying if you agree.

> +        /* Cluster size is not defined */
> +        error_report("WARNING: The target block device doesn't provide "
> +                     "information about the block size and it doesn't have a "
> +                     "backing file. The default block size of %u bytes is "
> +                     "used. If the actual block size of the target exceeds "
> +                     "this default, the backup may be unusable",
> +                     BACKUP_CLUSTER_SIZE_DEFAULT);
> +        job->cluster_size = BACKUP_CLUSTER_SIZE_DEFAULT;
> +    } else if (ret < 0 && !target->backing) {
>          error_setg_errno(errp, -ret,
>              "Couldn't determine the cluster size of the target image, "
>              "which has no backing file");

Kevin

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* Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4] backup: allow target without .bdrv_get_info
  2017-03-07 13:47 ` Kevin Wolf
@ 2017-03-07 16:39   ` Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy @ 2017-03-07 16:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Kevin Wolf
  Cc: qemu-block, qemu-devel, mreitz, jcody, jsnow, famz, den, stefanha

07.03.2017 16:47, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> Am 28.02.2017 um 20:33 hat Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy geschrieben:
>> Currently backup to nbd target is broken, as nbd doesn't have
>> .bdrv_get_info realization.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>
>> ---
>>
>> v4: use error_report()
>>      add article
>>
>> v3: fix compilation (I feel like an idiot)
>>      adjust wording (Fam)
>>      
>> v2: add WARNING
>>
>> ===
>>
>> Since commit
>>
>> commit 4c9bca7e39a6e07ad02c1dcde3478363344ec60b
>> Author: John Snow <jsnow@redhat.com>
>> Date:   Thu Feb 25 15:58:30 2016 -0500
>>
>>      block/backup: avoid copying less than full target clusters
>>
>> backup to nbd target is broken, we have "Couldn't determine the cluster size of
>> the target image".
>>
>> Proposed NBD protocol extension - NBD_OPT_INFO should finally solve this problem.
>> But until it is not realized, we need allow backup to nbd target due to backward
>> compatibility.
>>
>> Furthermore, is it entirely ok to disallow backup if bds lacks .bdrv_get_info?
>> Which behavior should be default: to fail backup or to use default cluster size?
>>
>>   block/backup.c | 12 +++++++++++-
>>   1 file changed, 11 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/block/backup.c b/block/backup.c
>> index ea38733849..ea160e9e82 100644
>> --- a/block/backup.c
>> +++ b/block/backup.c
>> @@ -24,6 +24,7 @@
>>   #include "qemu/cutils.h"
>>   #include "sysemu/block-backend.h"
>>   #include "qemu/bitmap.h"
>> +#include "qemu/error-report.h"
>>   
>>   #define BACKUP_CLUSTER_SIZE_DEFAULT (1 << 16)
>>   #define SLICE_TIME 100000000ULL /* ns */
>> @@ -638,7 +639,16 @@ BlockJob *backup_job_create(const char *job_id, BlockDriverState *bs,
>>        * backup cluster size is smaller than the target cluster size. Even for
>>        * targets with a backing file, try to avoid COW if possible. */
>>       ret = bdrv_get_info(target, &bdi);
>> -    if (ret < 0 && !target->backing) {
>> +    if (ret == -ENOTSUP) {
> I think this should be if (ret == -ENOTSUP && !target->backing) because
> the warning explicitly says "doesn't have a backing file", and the case
> with a backing file is already handled below (without a warning).
>
> I can fix this while applying if you agree.

Ok. no problem

>
>> +        /* Cluster size is not defined */
>> +        error_report("WARNING: The target block device doesn't provide "
>> +                     "information about the block size and it doesn't have a "
>> +                     "backing file. The default block size of %u bytes is "
>> +                     "used. If the actual block size of the target exceeds "
>> +                     "this default, the backup may be unusable",
>> +                     BACKUP_CLUSTER_SIZE_DEFAULT);
>> +        job->cluster_size = BACKUP_CLUSTER_SIZE_DEFAULT;
>> +    } else if (ret < 0 && !target->backing) {
>>           error_setg_errno(errp, -ret,
>>               "Couldn't determine the cluster size of the target image, "
>>               "which has no backing file");
> Kevin


-- 
Best regards,
Vladimir

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* Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4] backup: allow target without .bdrv_get_info
  2017-02-28 19:33 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v4] backup: allow target without .bdrv_get_info Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
  2017-03-01 23:14 ` Eric Blake
  2017-03-07 13:47 ` Kevin Wolf
@ 2017-03-08  9:15 ` Kevin Wolf
  2 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Kevin Wolf @ 2017-03-08  9:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy
  Cc: qemu-block, qemu-devel, mreitz, jcody, jsnow, famz, den, stefanha

Am 28.02.2017 um 20:33 hat Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy geschrieben:
> Currently backup to nbd target is broken, as nbd doesn't have
> .bdrv_get_info realization.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Vladimir Sementsov-Ogievskiy <vsementsov@virtuozzo.com>

Thanks, applied to the block branch.

Kevin

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