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From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Tariq Toukan <tariqt@mellanox.com>,
	Tariq Toukan <ttoukan.linux@gmail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Bisected softirq accounting issue in v4.11-rc1~170^2~28
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 15:13:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170329131321.GC8306@lerouge> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170329113030.671ff443@redhat.com>

On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 11:30:30AM +0200, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 23:11:22 +0200
> Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 05:23:03PM +0200, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
> > > On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 16:34:36 +0200
> > > Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >   
> > > > On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 10:14:03AM +0200, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:  
> > > > > 
> > > > > (While evaluating some changes to the page allocator) I ran into an
> > > > > issue with ksoftirqd getting too much CPU sched time.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I bisected the problem to
> > > > >  a499a5a14dbd ("sched/cputime: Increment kcpustat directly on irqtime account")
> > > > > 
> > > > >  a499a5a14dbd1d0315a96fc62a8798059325e9e6 is the first bad commit
> > > > >  commit a499a5a14dbd1d0315a96fc62a8798059325e9e6
> > > > >  Author: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
> > > > >  Date:   Tue Jan 31 04:09:32 2017 +0100
> > > > > 
> > > > >     sched/cputime: Increment kcpustat directly on irqtime account
> > > > >     
> > > > >     The irqtime is accounted is nsecs and stored in
> > > > >     cpu_irq_time.hardirq_time and cpu_irq_time.softirq_time. Once the
> > > > >     accumulated amount reaches a new jiffy, this one gets accounted to the
> > > > >     kcpustat.
> > > > >     
> > > > >     This was necessary when kcpustat was stored in cputime_t, which could at
> > > > >     worst have jiffies granularity. But now kcpustat is stored in nsecs
> > > > >     so this whole discretization game with temporary irqtime storage has
> > > > >     become unnecessary.
> > > > >     
> > > > >     We can now directly account the irqtime to the kcpustat.
> > > > >     
> > > > >     Signed-off-by: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
> > > > >     Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
> > > > >     Cc: Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>
> > > > >     Cc: Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>
> > > > >     Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
> > > > >     Cc: Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>
> > > > >     Cc: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>
> > > > >     Cc: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
> > > > >     Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
> > > > >     Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
> > > > >     Cc: Stanislaw Gruszka <sgruszka@redhat.com>
> > > > >     Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
> > > > >     Cc: Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>
> > > > >     Cc: Wanpeng Li <wanpeng.li@hotmail.com>
> > > > >     Link: http://lkml.kernel.org/r/1485832191-26889-17-git-send-email-fweisbec@gmail.com
> > > > >     Signed-off-by: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
> > > > > 
> > > > > The reproducer is running a userspace udp_sink[1] program, and taskset
> > > > > pinning the process to the same CPU as softirq RX is running on, and
> > > > > starting a UDP flood with pktgen (tool part of kernel tree:
> > > > > samples/pktgen/pktgen_sample03_burst_single_flow.sh).    
> > > > 
> > > > So that means I need to run udp_sink on the same CPU than pktgen?  
> > > 
> > > No, you misunderstood.  I run pktgen on another physical machine, which
> > > is sending UDP packets towards my Device-Under-Test (DUT) target.  The
> > > DUT-target is receiving packets and I observe which CPU the NIC is
> > > delivering these packets to.  
> > 
> > Ah ok, so I tried to run pktgen on another machine and I get that strange write error:
> > 
> >     # ./pktgen_sample03_burst_single_flow.sh -d 192.168.1.3  -i wlan0
> >     ./functions.sh: ligne 76 : echo: erreur d'�criture : Erreur inconnue 524
> >     ERROR: Write error(1) occurred cmd: "clone_skb 100000 > /proc/net/pktgen/wlan0@0"
> > 
> > Any idea?
> 
> Yes, this interface does not support pktgen "clone_skb".  You can
> supply cmdline argument "-c 0" to fix this.  But I suspect that this
> interface also does not support "burst", thus you also need "-b 0".
> 
> See all cmdline args via: ./pktgen_sample03_burst_single_flow.sh -h
> 
> Why are you using a wifi interface for this kind of overload testing?
> (the basic test here is making sure softirq is busy 100%, and at slow
> wifi speeds this might not be possible to force ksoftirqd into this
> scheduler state)

What? I need to raise from the couch and plug an ethernet cable?? ;-) ;-)

More seriously you're right, wifi probably won't be enough to trigger
the desired storm on the destination interface. I'm going to try with eth0,
that should also fix the clone_skb issues.

> > > > > After this commit, the udp_sink program does not get any sched CPU
> > > > > time, and no packets are delivered to userspace.  (All packets are
> > > > > dropped by softirq due to a full socket queue, nstat
> > > > > UdpRcvbufErrors).
> > > > > 
> > > > > A related symptom is that ksoftirqd no longer get accounted in
> > > > > top.    
> > > > 
> > > > That's indeed what I observe. udp_sink has almost no CPU time,
> > > > neither has ksoftirqd but kpktgend_0 has everything.
> > > > 
> > > > Finally a bug I can reproduce!  
> > > 
> > > Good to hear you can reproduce it! :-)  
> > 
> > Well, since I was generating the packets locally, maybe it didn't trigger
> > the expected interrupts...
> 
> Well, you definitely didn't create the test case I was using.  I cannot
> remember if the pktgen kthreads runs in softirq context, but I suspect
> it does. If so, you can recreate the main problem, which is a softirq
> thread using 100% CPU time, which cause no other processes getting
> sched time on that CPU.

Well, I prefer to reproduce the same thing than you to make sure I'm chasing
the right problem.

Thanks!

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From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Tariq Toukan <tariqt@mellanox.com>,
	Tariq Toukan <ttoukan.linux@gmail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Bisected softirq accounting issue in v4.11-rc1~170^2~28
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 15:13:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170329131321.GC8306@lerouge> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170329113030.671ff443@redhat.com>

On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 11:30:30AM +0200, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 23:11:22 +0200
> Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 05:23:03PM +0200, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
> > > On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 16:34:36 +0200
> > > Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >   
> > > > On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 10:14:03AM +0200, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:  
> > > > > 
> > > > > (While evaluating some changes to the page allocator) I ran into an
> > > > > issue with ksoftirqd getting too much CPU sched time.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I bisected the problem to
> > > > >  a499a5a14dbd ("sched/cputime: Increment kcpustat directly on irqtime account")
> > > > > 
> > > > >  a499a5a14dbd1d0315a96fc62a8798059325e9e6 is the first bad commit
> > > > >  commit a499a5a14dbd1d0315a96fc62a8798059325e9e6
> > > > >  Author: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
> > > > >  Date:   Tue Jan 31 04:09:32 2017 +0100
> > > > > 
> > > > >     sched/cputime: Increment kcpustat directly on irqtime account
> > > > >     
> > > > >     The irqtime is accounted is nsecs and stored in
> > > > >     cpu_irq_time.hardirq_time and cpu_irq_time.softirq_time. Once the
> > > > >     accumulated amount reaches a new jiffy, this one gets accounted to the
> > > > >     kcpustat.
> > > > >     
> > > > >     This was necessary when kcpustat was stored in cputime_t, which could at
> > > > >     worst have jiffies granularity. But now kcpustat is stored in nsecs
> > > > >     so this whole discretization game with temporary irqtime storage has
> > > > >     become unnecessary.
> > > > >     
> > > > >     We can now directly account the irqtime to the kcpustat.
> > > > >     
> > > > >     Signed-off-by: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
> > > > >     Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
> > > > >     Cc: Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>
> > > > >     Cc: Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>
> > > > >     Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
> > > > >     Cc: Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>
> > > > >     Cc: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>
> > > > >     Cc: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
> > > > >     Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
> > > > >     Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
> > > > >     Cc: Stanislaw Gruszka <sgruszka@redhat.com>
> > > > >     Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
> > > > >     Cc: Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>
> > > > >     Cc: Wanpeng Li <wanpeng.li@hotmail.com>
> > > > >     Link: http://lkml.kernel.org/r/1485832191-26889-17-git-send-email-fweisbec@gmail.com
> > > > >     Signed-off-by: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
> > > > > 
> > > > > The reproducer is running a userspace udp_sink[1] program, and taskset
> > > > > pinning the process to the same CPU as softirq RX is running on, and
> > > > > starting a UDP flood with pktgen (tool part of kernel tree:
> > > > > samples/pktgen/pktgen_sample03_burst_single_flow.sh).    
> > > > 
> > > > So that means I need to run udp_sink on the same CPU than pktgen?  
> > > 
> > > No, you misunderstood.  I run pktgen on another physical machine, which
> > > is sending UDP packets towards my Device-Under-Test (DUT) target.  The
> > > DUT-target is receiving packets and I observe which CPU the NIC is
> > > delivering these packets to.  
> > 
> > Ah ok, so I tried to run pktgen on another machine and I get that strange write error:
> > 
> >     # ./pktgen_sample03_burst_single_flow.sh -d 192.168.1.3  -i wlan0
> >     ./functions.sh: ligne 76 : echo: erreur d'�criture : Erreur inconnue 524
> >     ERROR: Write error(1) occurred cmd: "clone_skb 100000 > /proc/net/pktgen/wlan0@0"
> > 
> > Any idea?
> 
> Yes, this interface does not support pktgen "clone_skb".  You can
> supply cmdline argument "-c 0" to fix this.  But I suspect that this
> interface also does not support "burst", thus you also need "-b 0".
> 
> See all cmdline args via: ./pktgen_sample03_burst_single_flow.sh -h
> 
> Why are you using a wifi interface for this kind of overload testing?
> (the basic test here is making sure softirq is busy 100%, and at slow
> wifi speeds this might not be possible to force ksoftirqd into this
> scheduler state)

What? I need to raise from the couch and plug an ethernet cable?? ;-) ;-)

More seriously you're right, wifi probably won't be enough to trigger
the desired storm on the destination interface. I'm going to try with eth0,
that should also fix the clone_skb issues.

> > > > > After this commit, the udp_sink program does not get any sched CPU
> > > > > time, and no packets are delivered to userspace.  (All packets are
> > > > > dropped by softirq due to a full socket queue, nstat
> > > > > UdpRcvbufErrors).
> > > > > 
> > > > > A related symptom is that ksoftirqd no longer get accounted in
> > > > > top.    
> > > > 
> > > > That's indeed what I observe. udp_sink has almost no CPU time,
> > > > neither has ksoftirqd but kpktgend_0 has everything.
> > > > 
> > > > Finally a bug I can reproduce!  
> > > 
> > > Good to hear you can reproduce it! :-)  
> > 
> > Well, since I was generating the packets locally, maybe it didn't trigger
> > the expected interrupts...
> 
> Well, you definitely didn't create the test case I was using.  I cannot
> remember if the pktgen kthreads runs in softirq context, but I suspect
> it does. If so, you can recreate the main problem, which is a softirq
> thread using 100% CPU time, which cause no other processes getting
> sched time on that CPU.

Well, I prefer to reproduce the same thing than you to make sure I'm chasing
the right problem.

Thanks!

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From: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
To: Jesper Dangaard Brouer <brouer@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	"netdev@vger.kernel.org" <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Mel Gorman <mgorman@techsingularity.net>,
	Tariq Toukan <tariqt@mellanox.com>,
	Tariq Toukan <ttoukan.linux@gmail.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Bisected softirq accounting issue in v4.11-rc1~170^2~28
Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2017 15:13:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170329131321.GC8306@lerouge> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170329113030.671ff443@redhat.com>

On Wed, Mar 29, 2017 at 11:30:30AM +0200, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
> On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 23:11:22 +0200
> Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 05:23:03PM +0200, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:
> > > On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 16:34:36 +0200
> > > Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >   
> > > > On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 10:14:03AM +0200, Jesper Dangaard Brouer wrote:  
> > > > > 
> > > > > (While evaluating some changes to the page allocator) I ran into an
> > > > > issue with ksoftirqd getting too much CPU sched time.
> > > > > 
> > > > > I bisected the problem to
> > > > >  a499a5a14dbd ("sched/cputime: Increment kcpustat directly on irqtime account")
> > > > > 
> > > > >  a499a5a14dbd1d0315a96fc62a8798059325e9e6 is the first bad commit
> > > > >  commit a499a5a14dbd1d0315a96fc62a8798059325e9e6
> > > > >  Author: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
> > > > >  Date:   Tue Jan 31 04:09:32 2017 +0100
> > > > > 
> > > > >     sched/cputime: Increment kcpustat directly on irqtime account
> > > > >     
> > > > >     The irqtime is accounted is nsecs and stored in
> > > > >     cpu_irq_time.hardirq_time and cpu_irq_time.softirq_time. Once the
> > > > >     accumulated amount reaches a new jiffy, this one gets accounted to the
> > > > >     kcpustat.
> > > > >     
> > > > >     This was necessary when kcpustat was stored in cputime_t, which could at
> > > > >     worst have jiffies granularity. But now kcpustat is stored in nsecs
> > > > >     so this whole discretization game with temporary irqtime storage has
> > > > >     become unnecessary.
> > > > >     
> > > > >     We can now directly account the irqtime to the kcpustat.
> > > > >     
> > > > >     Signed-off-by: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>
> > > > >     Cc: Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>
> > > > >     Cc: Fenghua Yu <fenghua.yu@intel.com>
> > > > >     Cc: Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>
> > > > >     Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
> > > > >     Cc: Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>
> > > > >     Cc: Michael Ellerman <mpe@ellerman.id.au>
> > > > >     Cc: Paul Mackerras <paulus@samba.org>
> > > > >     Cc: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
> > > > >     Cc: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
> > > > >     Cc: Stanislaw Gruszka <sgruszka@redhat.com>
> > > > >     Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
> > > > >     Cc: Tony Luck <tony.luck@intel.com>
> > > > >     Cc: Wanpeng Li <wanpeng.li@hotmail.com>
> > > > >     Link: http://lkml.kernel.org/r/1485832191-26889-17-git-send-email-fweisbec@gmail.com
> > > > >     Signed-off-by: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
> > > > > 
> > > > > The reproducer is running a userspace udp_sink[1] program, and taskset
> > > > > pinning the process to the same CPU as softirq RX is running on, and
> > > > > starting a UDP flood with pktgen (tool part of kernel tree:
> > > > > samples/pktgen/pktgen_sample03_burst_single_flow.sh).    
> > > > 
> > > > So that means I need to run udp_sink on the same CPU than pktgen?  
> > > 
> > > No, you misunderstood.  I run pktgen on another physical machine, which
> > > is sending UDP packets towards my Device-Under-Test (DUT) target.  The
> > > DUT-target is receiving packets and I observe which CPU the NIC is
> > > delivering these packets to.  
> > 
> > Ah ok, so I tried to run pktgen on another machine and I get that strange write error:
> > 
> >     # ./pktgen_sample03_burst_single_flow.sh -d 192.168.1.3  -i wlan0
> >     ./functions.sh: ligne 76 : echo: erreur d'i? 1/2 criture : Erreur inconnue 524
> >     ERROR: Write error(1) occurred cmd: "clone_skb 100000 > /proc/net/pktgen/wlan0@0"
> > 
> > Any idea?
> 
> Yes, this interface does not support pktgen "clone_skb".  You can
> supply cmdline argument "-c 0" to fix this.  But I suspect that this
> interface also does not support "burst", thus you also need "-b 0".
> 
> See all cmdline args via: ./pktgen_sample03_burst_single_flow.sh -h
> 
> Why are you using a wifi interface for this kind of overload testing?
> (the basic test here is making sure softirq is busy 100%, and at slow
> wifi speeds this might not be possible to force ksoftirqd into this
> scheduler state)

What? I need to raise from the couch and plug an ethernet cable?? ;-) ;-)

More seriously you're right, wifi probably won't be enough to trigger
the desired storm on the destination interface. I'm going to try with eth0,
that should also fix the clone_skb issues.

> > > > > After this commit, the udp_sink program does not get any sched CPU
> > > > > time, and no packets are delivered to userspace.  (All packets are
> > > > > dropped by softirq due to a full socket queue, nstat
> > > > > UdpRcvbufErrors).
> > > > > 
> > > > > A related symptom is that ksoftirqd no longer get accounted in
> > > > > top.    
> > > > 
> > > > That's indeed what I observe. udp_sink has almost no CPU time,
> > > > neither has ksoftirqd but kpktgend_0 has everything.
> > > > 
> > > > Finally a bug I can reproduce!  
> > > 
> > > Good to hear you can reproduce it! :-)  
> > 
> > Well, since I was generating the packets locally, maybe it didn't trigger
> > the expected interrupts...
> 
> Well, you definitely didn't create the test case I was using.  I cannot
> remember if the pktgen kthreads runs in softirq context, but I suspect
> it does. If so, you can recreate the main problem, which is a softirq
> thread using 100% CPU time, which cause no other processes getting
> sched time on that CPU.

Well, I prefer to reproduce the same thing than you to make sure I'm chasing
the right problem.

Thanks!

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Thread overview: 24+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-03-28  8:14 Bisected softirq accounting issue in v4.11-rc1~170^2~28 Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-03-28  8:14 ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-03-28 10:34 ` Wanpeng Li
2017-03-28 10:34   ` Wanpeng Li
2017-03-28 11:49   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-03-28 11:49     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-03-28 12:26   ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-28 12:26     ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-03-28 13:06     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-03-28 13:06       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-03-28 13:18       ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-03-28 13:18         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-03-28 14:34 ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-03-28 14:34   ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-03-28 15:23   ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-03-28 15:23     ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-03-28 21:11     ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-03-28 21:11       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-03-28 21:11       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-03-29  9:30       ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-03-29  9:30         ` Jesper Dangaard Brouer
2017-03-29 13:13         ` Frederic Weisbecker [this message]
2017-03-29 13:13           ` Frederic Weisbecker
2017-03-29 13:13           ` Frederic Weisbecker

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